New 2022-2023 Covid Plan and Guidelines

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Anonymous wrote:I think they’re just going to start off in the fall similarly to how they ended in the spring. If there’s a surge, you may not have a bus driver and your kid may be sitting in an auditorium being babysat with 100 others not really learning if enough staff are out sick. Unless the cdc gets rid of the 5 day isolation, mcps won’t change that procedure.

Can you imagine the spread of covid if they do the auditoriums given this variant is far more contagious? How quickly will they be posting here complaining abotu that.

Absolutely. I am on day 5 of Covid right now and if I were your kids teacher, I would be coughing all over them in class tomorrow.

Fine by me. Stay home if you feel sick otherwise go to work. We’ve got to move on.

Same here. Stay home if you have a fever or feel terrible and can’t do your job. Otherwise, I’m not afraid of my kid’s teacher having a cough.

So do you even Covid test or just assume a cold and ignore?

Why would you go into work if you’d be coughing all over the students? I agree with the pp who said, “Stay home if you feel sick”.

ES Teacher

Of course I would not do that. I am just saying that after 5 days of Covid I still feel contagious...but it sure sounds like the PP would just have me treat it as a cold and move on. They would send their kids in with the same "cold"

MCPS needs to make classrooms or schools specific for those people who moved on and don't care so they can spread it around and have safer schools where parents who care. They should also require parents like that poster to work as subs once a week.

When will you move on?

I’m not being snarky.

I truly wonder what metric you plan to use in order to adjust to the fact that covid isn’t ever going away.

DP. I’ll move on when I am no longer immunocompromised. All I want is 1) for students and staff to test if they have symptoms or know they were exposed and 2) for people who know they are sick to stay home until they are no longer infectious.

Is your immunocompromised status temporary?

One issue with what you’re saying is that we don’t have an accurate way to determine who is infectious. Also, that’s a spectrum, rather than a simple yes/no, with people generally being less contagious as time passes.

I also don’t really understand the reason to test. If you’re saying sick kids should stay home, does it really matter what they’re sick with? If a sick child tests negative for covid, would you really say it’s ok for them to go back to school before they’re better?

Of course not! But then we could contact trace and quarantine exposed kids to cut down on the spread.

You want to bring back quarantines for contacts? That’s absurd for a virus this widespread. The CDC doesn’t even recommend it.

Better option would be mandatory weekly testing and several days of testing for contacts. The CDC is a hot mess in their covid recommendations and failed us.

That to me is not the issue. What does the school system then do if there are positive tests? Can’t have the kids miss weeks at a time again. Just not sustainable.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they’re just going to start off in the fall similarly to how they ended in the spring. If there’s a surge, you may not have a bus driver and your kid may be sitting in an auditorium being babysat with 100 others not really learning if enough staff are out sick. Unless the cdc gets rid of the 5 day isolation, mcps won’t change that procedure.

Can you imagine the spread of covid if they do the auditoriums given this variant is far more contagious? How quickly will they be posting here complaining abotu that.

Absolutely. I am on day 5 of Covid right now and if I were your kids teacher, I would be coughing all over them in class tomorrow.

Fine by me. Stay home if you feel sick otherwise go to work. We’ve got to move on.

Same here. Stay home if you have a fever or feel terrible and can’t do your job. Otherwise, I’m not afraid of my kid’s teacher having a cough.

So do you even Covid test or just assume a cold and ignore?

Why would you go into work if you’d be coughing all over the students? I agree with the pp who said, “Stay home if you feel sick”.

Contact tracing is over. You stay home when you are positive or have symptoms and that's it.

ES Teacher

Of course I would not do that. I am just saying that after 5 days of Covid I still feel contagious...but it sure sounds like the PP would just have me treat it as a cold and move on. They would send their kids in with the same "cold"

MCPS needs to make classrooms or schools specific for those people who moved on and don't care so they can spread it around and have safer schools where parents who care. They should also require parents like that poster to work as subs once a week.

When will you move on?

I’m not being snarky.

I truly wonder what metric you plan to use in order to adjust to the fact that covid isn’t ever going away.

DP. I’ll move on when I am no longer immunocompromised. All I want is 1) for students and staff to test if they have symptoms or know they were exposed and 2) for people who know they are sick to stay home until they are no longer infectious.

Is your immunocompromised status temporary?

One issue with what you’re saying is that we don’t have an accurate way to determine who is infectious. Also, that’s a spectrum, rather than a simple yes/no, with people generally being less contagious as time passes.

I also don’t really understand the reason to test. If you’re saying sick kids should stay home, does it really matter what they’re sick with? If a sick child tests negative for covid, would you really say it’s ok for them to go back to school before they’re better?

Of course not! But then we could contact trace and quarantine exposed kids to cut down on the spread.

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Anonymous wrote:First of all, we can all agree that CDC guidelines have been designed to get workers back on the job to pad the wallets of the already wealthy, not for acute public health reasons. Second, the CDC is about to conveniently change their guidelines right as kids go back to school to favor…wait for it..NOT public health, but keeping low wage workers at work. Shocker!

Covid is a cold. People have been going to work and school with colds forever.

Its not a cold. Grow up already.

It’s not far off if you’re vaccinated and boosted.

I’m my experience, colds have generally been far more miserable.

You were fortunate, not my experience at all.

I don't know about that. I think my experience was pretty common.

I suspect the pp is the sort of person that acts like she’s on her deathbed every time she gets sick.

I think you need some serious empathy lessons and don't care about anyone but yourself. It is not mild for everyone.

And? It is for most. If it's a concern for you, wear a quality mask. You have options.

Kids cannot mask at lunch.

A few options for you:

1) smoothie lunches through a straw, but yes they’d have to break the seal slightly
2) withdraw your kids for lunch
3) VA
4) homeschool

Stop being helpless and take control of your own life.

Here's an idea, make schools "safe" for all students and their families. Funny how others want VA shut down and think its unhealthy, and yet, those same folks will not make it safe for those kids to return.

Schools are as safe as they’ve always been. Yes, kids will get sick from time-to-time. That’s just life, and always has been.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they’re just going to start off in the fall similarly to how they ended in the spring. If there’s a surge, you may not have a bus driver and your kid may be sitting in an auditorium being babysat with 100 others not really learning if enough staff are out sick. Unless the cdc gets rid of the 5 day isolation, mcps won’t change that procedure.

Can you imagine the spread of covid if they do the auditoriums given this variant is far more contagious? How quickly will they be posting here complaining abotu that.

Absolutely. I am on day 5 of Covid right now and if I were your kids teacher, I would be coughing all over them in class tomorrow.

Fine by me. Stay home if you feel sick otherwise go to work. We’ve got to move on.

Same here. Stay home if you have a fever or feel terrible and can’t do your job. Otherwise, I’m not afraid of my kid’s teacher having a cough.

So do you even Covid test or just assume a cold and ignore?

Why would you go into work if you’d be coughing all over the students? I agree with the pp who said, “Stay home if you feel sick”.

ES Teacher

Of course I would not do that. I am just saying that after 5 days of Covid I still feel contagious...but it sure sounds like the PP would just have me treat it as a cold and move on. They would send their kids in with the same "cold"

MCPS needs to make classrooms or schools specific for those people who moved on and don't care so they can spread it around and have safer schools where parents who care. They should also require parents like that poster to work as subs once a week.

When will you move on?

I’m not being snarky.

I truly wonder what metric you plan to use in order to adjust to the fact that covid isn’t ever going away.

DP. I’ll move on when I am no longer immunocompromised. All I want is 1) for students and staff to test if they have symptoms or know they were exposed and 2) for people who know they are sick to stay home until they are no longer infectious.

Is your immunocompromised status temporary?

One issue with what you’re saying is that we don’t have an accurate way to determine who is infectious. Also, that’s a spectrum, rather than a simple yes/no, with people generally being less contagious as time passes.

I also don’t really understand the reason to test. If you’re saying sick kids should stay home, does it really matter what they’re sick with? If a sick child tests negative for covid, would you really say it’s ok for them to go back to school before they’re better?

Of course not! But then we could contact trace and quarantine exposed kids to cut down on the spread.

You want to bring back quarantines for contacts? That’s absurd for a virus this widespread. The CDC doesn’t even recommend it.

Better option would be mandatory weekly testing and several days of testing for contacts. The CDC is a hot mess in their covid recommendations and failed us.

That to me is not the issue. What does the school system then do if there are positive tests? Can’t have the kids miss weeks at a time again. Just not sustainable.

Also keep in kind of these posters want the other kids in the classroom quarantined for a week at a time when there’s a case. Obviously that’s ridiculous, but these people don’t have a firm grasp on reality.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they’re just going to start off in the fall similarly to how they ended in the spring. If there’s a surge, you may not have a bus driver and your kid may be sitting in an auditorium being babysat with 100 others not really learning if enough staff are out sick. Unless the cdc gets rid of the 5 day isolation, mcps won’t change that procedure.

Can you imagine the spread of covid if they do the auditoriums given this variant is far more contagious? How quickly will they be posting here complaining abotu that.

Absolutely. I am on day 5 of Covid right now and if I were your kids teacher, I would be coughing all over them in class tomorrow.

Fine by me. Stay home if you feel sick otherwise go to work. We’ve got to move on.

Same here. Stay home if you have a fever or feel terrible and can’t do your job. Otherwise, I’m not afraid of my kid’s teacher having a cough.

So do you even Covid test or just assume a cold and ignore?

Why would you go into work if you’d be coughing all over the students? I agree with the pp who said, “Stay home if you feel sick”.

ES Teacher

Of course I would not do that. I am just saying that after 5 days of Covid I still feel contagious...but it sure sounds like the PP would just have me treat it as a cold and move on. They would send their kids in with the same "cold"

MCPS needs to make classrooms or schools specific for those people who moved on and don't care so they can spread it around and have safer schools where parents who care. They should also require parents like that poster to work as subs once a week.

When will you move on?

I’m not being snarky.

I truly wonder what metric you plan to use in order to adjust to the fact that covid isn’t ever going away.

DP. I’ll move on when I am no longer immunocompromised. All I want is 1) for students and staff to test if they have symptoms or know they were exposed and 2) for people who know they are sick to stay home until they are no longer infectious.

Is your immunocompromised status temporary?

One issue with what you’re saying is that we don’t have an accurate way to determine who is infectious. Also, that’s a spectrum, rather than a simple yes/no, with people generally being less contagious as time passes.

I also don’t really understand the reason to test. If you’re saying sick kids should stay home, does it really matter what they’re sick with? If a sick child tests negative for covid, would you really say it’s ok for them to go back to school before they’re better?

Unfortunately, it is not temporary in my case. I plan to teach another 10-15 years and understand that there will always be viruses running around my school. I’m doing my best with masking, but I’ve had 4 Covid vaccinations that did not produce any immunity. My doctor is considering Evushield as a result.

Sick kids and adults should stay home if they have an infectious disease that is easily transmitted. Even if it’s not Covid. Last spring, a lot of my students and coworkers reported to work although they felt crappy, then tested positive that evening or over the weekend. If someone feels sick but is no longer infectious, they should stay home for their own sake. MCPS needs to reinstate Covid leave for staff.

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Anonymous wrote:First of all, we can all agree that CDC guidelines have been designed to get workers back on the job to pad the wallets of the already wealthy, not for acute public health reasons. Second, the CDC is about to conveniently change their guidelines right as kids go back to school to favor…wait for it..NOT public health, but keeping low wage workers at work. Shocker!

Covid is a cold. People have been going to work and school with colds forever.

Its not a cold. Grow up already.

It’s not far off if you’re vaccinated and boosted.

I’m my experience, colds have generally been far more miserable.

You were fortunate, not my experience at all.

I don't know about that. I think my experience was pretty common.

I suspect the pp is the sort of person that acts like she’s on her deathbed every time she gets sick.

I think you need some serious empathy lessons and don't care about anyone but yourself. It is not mild for everyone.

And? It is for most. If it's a concern for you, wear a quality mask. You have options.

Kids cannot mask at lunch.

A few options for you:

1) smoothie lunches through a straw, but yes they’d have to break the seal slightly
2) withdraw your kids for lunch
3) VA
4) homeschool

Stop being helpless and take control of your own life.

Here's an idea, make schools "safe" for all students and their families. Funny how others want VA shut down and think its unhealthy, and yet, those same folks will not make it safe for those kids to return.

Go find all the money it would take to make the schools “safer”, since that seems to involve sone sort of combination of fit-tested masks, upgraded ventilation (even in schools with upgraded ventilation already), some sort of hybrid nonsense, and supplemental paid sick leave for parents (including MCPS staff) to keep exposed but healthy kids home. Get back to us when you have all that.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they’re just going to start off in the fall similarly to how they ended in the spring. If there’s a surge, you may not have a bus driver and your kid may be sitting in an auditorium being babysat with 100 others not really learning if enough staff are out sick. Unless the cdc gets rid of the 5 day isolation, mcps won’t change that procedure.

Can you imagine the spread of covid if they do the auditoriums given this variant is far more contagious? How quickly will they be posting here complaining abotu that.

Absolutely. I am on day 5 of Covid right now and if I were your kids teacher, I would be coughing all over them in class tomorrow.

Fine by me. Stay home if you feel sick otherwise go to work. We’ve got to move on.

Same here. Stay home if you have a fever or feel terrible and can’t do your job. Otherwise, I’m not afraid of my kid’s teacher having a cough.

So do you even Covid test or just assume a cold and ignore?

Why would you go into work if you’d be coughing all over the students? I agree with the pp who said, “Stay home if you feel sick”.

ES Teacher

Of course I would not do that. I am just saying that after 5 days of Covid I still feel contagious...but it sure sounds like the PP would just have me treat it as a cold and move on. They would send their kids in with the same "cold"

MCPS needs to make classrooms or schools specific for those people who moved on and don't care so they can spread it around and have safer schools where parents who care. They should also require parents like that poster to work as subs once a week.

When will you move on?

I’m not being snarky.

I truly wonder what metric you plan to use in order to adjust to the fact that covid isn’t ever going away.

DP. I’ll move on when I am no longer immunocompromised. All I want is 1) for students and staff to test if they have symptoms or know they were exposed and 2) for people who know they are sick to stay home until they are no longer infectious.

Is your immunocompromised status temporary?

One issue with what you’re saying is that we don’t have an accurate way to determine who is infectious. Also, that’s a spectrum, rather than a simple yes/no, with people generally being less contagious as time passes.

I also don’t really understand the reason to test. If you’re saying sick kids should stay home, does it really matter what they’re sick with? If a sick child tests negative for covid, would you really say it’s ok for them to go back to school before they’re better?

The issue is parents like you will not keep sick kids home and have no issue infecting the rest of us. The issue is the consequences of covid are no big deal for you as you just ignore them and go about what ever you want but some of us can get very sick from it and miss work and other things like necessary medical appointments.

Should actual sick kids and staff be in school? Of course not. But some you still seem to have trouble grasping that Covid in kids can present itself so mildly that it’s easy to miss. The only reason we knew my DS had it is because we tested him before visiting grandparents. He had NO symptoms. He had been at camp and probably picked it up there, likely from another kid or counselor who was not obviously sick. It’s just part of life now, but sone of you want to keep blaming your woes on everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:First of all, we can all agree that CDC guidelines have been designed to get workers back on the job to pad the wallets of the already wealthy, not for acute public health reasons. Second, the CDC is about to conveniently change their guidelines right as kids go back to school to favor…wait for it..NOT public health, but keeping low wage workers at work. Shocker!

Covid is a cold. People have been going to work and school with colds forever.

Its not a cold. Grow up already.

It’s not far off if you’re vaccinated and boosted.

I’m my experience, colds have generally been far more miserable.

You were fortunate, not my experience at all.

I don't know about that. I think my experience was pretty common.

I suspect the pp is the sort of person that acts like she’s on her deathbed every time she gets sick.

I think you need some serious empathy lessons and don't care about anyone but yourself. It is not mild for everyone.

From the person who wants the rest of the world to change their behavior so she doesn’t have to take responsibility for herself…

What are you talking about? We are extremely careful and not the fake careful people pretend to be. I want basic precautions. That’s not unreasonable given how contagious this is.

There are certainly some posters here demanding ridiculous Covid policies on everyone because they won’t take whatever individual measures are necessary to protect themselves. There's no reason for indefinite masking or quarantine policies at this point.

Clearly you don’t get Covid and the high transmission rate. Of course those of us concerned still mask but it’s not that simple in a large school with 1000+ students and staff.

You clearly don’t get that Covid is with us permanently. You’re not going to escape it if you’re willing to rejoin society.

Permanent mask mandates and kicking healthy kids out of school aren’t going to change that.

We do get its permanent and we have people like you to thank. No, I'm not willing to get covid over and over again. NO one is saying permanent mask mandates but given the high level of transmission and large schools, they make sense right now. And, kids who have covid are not healthy.

Stop being disingenuous about masks. Even when cases were low back in the spring posters like you were still wringing your hands about the removal of the mask mandate. It will never be enough for you.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they’re just going to start off in the fall similarly to how they ended in the spring. If there’s a surge, you may not have a bus driver and your kid may be sitting in an auditorium being babysat with 100 others not really learning if enough staff are out sick. Unless the cdc gets rid of the 5 day isolation, mcps won’t change that procedure.

Can you imagine the spread of covid if they do the auditoriums given this variant is far more contagious? How quickly will they be posting here complaining abotu that.

Absolutely. I am on day 5 of Covid right now and if I were your kids teacher, I would be coughing all over them in class tomorrow.

Fine by me. Stay home if you feel sick otherwise go to work. We’ve got to move on.

Same here. Stay home if you have a fever or feel terrible and can’t do your job. Otherwise, I’m not afraid of my kid’s teacher having a cough.

So do you even Covid test or just assume a cold and ignore?

Why would you go into work if you’d be coughing all over the students? I agree with the pp who said, “Stay home if you feel sick”.

ES Teacher

Of course I would not do that. I am just saying that after 5 days of Covid I still feel contagious...but it sure sounds like the PP would just have me treat it as a cold and move on. They would send their kids in with the same "cold"

MCPS needs to make classrooms or schools specific for those people who moved on and don't care so they can spread it around and have safer schools where parents who care. They should also require parents like that poster to work as subs once a week.

When will you move on?

I’m not being snarky.

I truly wonder what metric you plan to use in order to adjust to the fact that covid isn’t ever going away.

DP. I’ll move on when I am no longer immunocompromised. All I want is 1) for students and staff to test if they have symptoms or know they were exposed and 2) for people who know they are sick to stay home until they are no longer infectious.

Is your immunocompromised status temporary?

One issue with what you’re saying is that we don’t have an accurate way to determine who is infectious. Also, that’s a spectrum, rather than a simple yes/no, with people generally being less contagious as time passes.

I also don’t really understand the reason to test. If you’re saying sick kids should stay home, does it really matter what they’re sick with? If a sick child tests negative for covid, would you really say it’s ok for them to go back to school before they’re better?

The issue is parents like you will not keep sick kids home and have no issue infecting the rest of us. The issue is the consequences of covid are no big deal for you as you just ignore them and go about what ever you want but some of us can get very sick from it and miss work and other things like necessary medical appointments.

Should actual sick kids and staff be in school? Of course not. But some you still seem to have trouble grasping that Covid in kids can present itself so mildly that it’s easy to miss. The only reason we knew my DS had it is because we tested him before visiting grandparents. He had NO symptoms. He had been at camp and probably picked it up there, likely from another kid or counselor who was not obviously sick. It’s just part of life now, but sone of you want to keep blaming your woes on everyone else.

We’ve never expected asymptomatic kids or staff to stay home from school or work. Never. Asymptomatic flu/strep/RSV testing isn’t a thing. It’s time we treat covid the same way.

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Anonymous wrote:First of all, we can all agree that CDC guidelines have been designed to get workers back on the job to pad the wallets of the already wealthy, not for acute public health reasons. Second, the CDC is about to conveniently change their guidelines right as kids go back to school to favor…wait for it..NOT public health, but keeping low wage workers at work. Shocker!

Covid is a cold. People have been going to work and school with colds forever.

Its not a cold. Grow up already.

It’s not far off if you’re vaccinated and boosted.

I’m my experience, colds have generally been far more miserable.

You were fortunate, not my experience at all.

I don't know about that. I think my experience was pretty common.

I suspect the pp is the sort of person that acts like she’s on her deathbed every time she gets sick.

I think you need some serious empathy lessons and don't care about anyone but yourself. It is not mild for everyone.

From the person who wants the rest of the world to change their behavior so she doesn’t have to take responsibility for herself…

What are you talking about? We are extremely careful and not the fake careful people pretend to be. I want basic precautions. That’s not unreasonable given how contagious this is.

There are certainly some posters here demanding ridiculous Covid policies on everyone because they won’t take whatever individual measures are necessary to protect themselves. There's no reason for indefinite masking or quarantine policies at this point.

Clearly you don’t get Covid and the high transmission rate. Of course those of us concerned still mask but it’s not that simple in a large school with 1000+ students and staff.

You clearly don’t get that Covid is with us permanently. You’re not going to escape it if you’re willing to rejoin society.

Permanent mask mandates and kicking healthy kids out of school aren’t going to change that.

We do get its permanent and we have people like you to thank. No, I'm not willing to get covid over and over again. NO one is saying permanent mask mandates but given the high level of transmission and large schools, they make sense right now. And, kids who have covid are not healthy.

Stop being disingenuous about masks. Even when cases were low back in the spring posters like you were still wringing your hands about the removal of the mask mandate. It will never be enough for you.

I can’t tell if these people are being disingenuous or if they simply don’t understand covid. The PP’s post suggests she thinks we’re in a temporary situation with spread. That’s ridiculous. We have high immunity in the community right now due to vaccinations and infections. What we’re seeing now is the new baseline level of spread. And viruses rarely get less infectious over time, so we can and should expect this level to continue for the foreseeable future.

If you’re saying we should mask now, you’re effectively saying we should mask forever.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they’re just going to start off in the fall similarly to how they ended in the spring. If there’s a surge, you may not have a bus driver and your kid may be sitting in an auditorium being babysat with 100 others not really learning if enough staff are out sick. Unless the cdc gets rid of the 5 day isolation, mcps won’t change that procedure.

Can you imagine the spread of covid if they do the auditoriums given this variant is far more contagious? How quickly will they be posting here complaining abotu that.

Absolutely. I am on day 5 of Covid right now and if I were your kids teacher, I would be coughing all over them in class tomorrow.

Fine by me. Stay home if you feel sick otherwise go to work. We’ve got to move on.

Same here. Stay home if you have a fever or feel terrible and can’t do your job. Otherwise, I’m not afraid of my kid’s teacher having a cough.

So do you even Covid test or just assume a cold and ignore?

Why would you go into work if you’d be coughing all over the students? I agree with the pp who said, “Stay home if you feel sick”.

ES Teacher

Of course I would not do that. I am just saying that after 5 days of Covid I still feel contagious...but it sure sounds like the PP would just have me treat it as a cold and move on. They would send their kids in with the same "cold"

MCPS needs to make classrooms or schools specific for those people who moved on and don't care so they can spread it around and have safer schools where parents who care. They should also require parents like that poster to work as subs once a week.

When will you move on?

I’m not being snarky.

I truly wonder what metric you plan to use in order to adjust to the fact that covid isn’t ever going away.

DP. I’ll move on when I am no longer immunocompromised. All I want is 1) for students and staff to test if they have symptoms or know they were exposed and 2) for people who know they are sick to stay home until they are no longer infectious.

Is your immunocompromised status temporary?

One issue with what you’re saying is that we don’t have an accurate way to determine who is infectious. Also, that’s a spectrum, rather than a simple yes/no, with people generally being less contagious as time passes.

I also don’t really understand the reason to test. If you’re saying sick kids should stay home, does it really matter what they’re sick with? If a sick child tests negative for covid, would you really say it’s ok for them to go back to school before they’re better?

Unfortunately, it is not temporary in my case. I plan to teach another 10-15 years and understand that there will always be viruses running around my school. I’m doing my best with masking, but I’ve had 4 Covid vaccinations that did not produce any immunity. My doctor is considering Evushield as a result.

Sick kids and adults should stay home if they have an infectious disease that is easily transmitted. Even if it’s not Covid. Last spring, a lot of my students and coworkers reported to work although they felt crappy, then tested positive that evening or over the weekend. If someone feels sick but is no longer infectious, they should stay home for their own sake. MCPS needs to reinstate Covid leave for staff.

That’s what Evushield is for, so I don’t understand why there would be any hesitancy there.

Out of curiosity, how do you know that you didn’t have a immune response to the vaccinations?

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Anonymous wrote:First of all, we can all agree that CDC guidelines have been designed to get workers back on the job to pad the wallets of the already wealthy, not for acute public health reasons. Second, the CDC is about to conveniently change their guidelines right as kids go back to school to favor…wait for it..NOT public health, but keeping low wage workers at work. Shocker!

Covid is a cold. People have been going to work and school with colds forever.

Its not a cold. Grow up already.

It’s not far off if you’re vaccinated and boosted.

I’m my experience, colds have generally been far more miserable.

You were fortunate, not my experience at all.

I don't know about that. I think my experience was pretty common.

I suspect the pp is the sort of person that acts like she’s on her deathbed every time she gets sick.

I think you need some serious empathy lessons and don't care about anyone but yourself. It is not mild for everyone.

From the person who wants the rest of the world to change their behavior so she doesn’t have to take responsibility for herself…

What are you talking about? We are extremely careful and not the fake careful people pretend to be. I want basic precautions. That’s not unreasonable given how contagious this is.

There are certainly some posters here demanding ridiculous Covid policies on everyone because they won’t take whatever individual measures are necessary to protect themselves. There's no reason for indefinite masking or quarantine policies at this point.

Clearly you don’t get Covid and the high transmission rate. Of course those of us concerned still mask but it’s not that simple in a large school with 1000+ students and staff.

You clearly don’t get that Covid is with us permanently. You’re not going to escape it if you’re willing to rejoin society.

Permanent mask mandates and kicking healthy kids out of school aren’t going to change that.

We do get its permanent and we have people like you to thank. No, I'm not willing to get covid over and over again. NO one is saying permanent mask mandates but given the high level of transmission and large schools, they make sense right now. And, kids who have covid are not healthy.

Stop being disingenuous about masks. Even when cases were low back in the spring posters like you were still wringing your hands about the removal of the mask mandate. It will never be enough for you.

I can’t tell if these people are being disingenuous or if they simply don’t understand covid. The PP’s post suggests she thinks we’re in a temporary situation with spread. That’s ridiculous. We have high immunity in the community right now due to vaccinations and infections. What we’re seeing now is the new baseline level of spread. And viruses rarely get less infectious over time, so we can and should expect this level to continue for the foreseeable future.

If you’re saying we should mask now, you’re effectively saying we should mask forever.

No one thinks we are in a temporary situation but people also don't want to get covid. No one is saying masking forever either. Is this the best you can do to get attention? Look, you won. There will be no precautions this school year. So, don't complain when it spreads like wild fire and your kids are sick, teachers are out, staff are out, bus drivers are out. We can thank you for the show it will be in the fall...

This new variant is far more contegous and you can get it multiple times. Immunity lasts 6-8 weeks at best.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they’re just going to start off in the fall similarly to how they ended in the spring. If there’s a surge, you may not have a bus driver and your kid may be sitting in an auditorium being babysat with 100 others not really learning if enough staff are out sick. Unless the cdc gets rid of the 5 day isolation, mcps won’t change that procedure.

Can you imagine the spread of covid if they do the auditoriums given this variant is far more contagious? How quickly will they be posting here complaining abotu that.

Absolutely. I am on day 5 of Covid right now and if I were your kids teacher, I would be coughing all over them in class tomorrow.

Fine by me. Stay home if you feel sick otherwise go to work. We’ve got to move on.

Same here. Stay home if you have a fever or feel terrible and can’t do your job. Otherwise, I’m not afraid of my kid’s teacher having a cough.

So do you even Covid test or just assume a cold and ignore?

Why would you go into work if you’d be coughing all over the students? I agree with the pp who said, “Stay home if you feel sick”.

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Of course I would not do that. I am just saying that after 5 days of Covid I still feel contagious...but it sure sounds like the PP would just have me treat it as a cold and move on. They would send their kids in with the same "cold"

MCPS needs to make classrooms or schools specific for those people who moved on and don't care so they can spread it around and have safer schools where parents who care. They should also require parents like that poster to work as subs once a week.

When will you move on?

I’m not being snarky.

I truly wonder what metric you plan to use in order to adjust to the fact that covid isn’t ever going away.

DP. I’ll move on when I am no longer immunocompromised. All I want is 1) for students and staff to test if they have symptoms or know they were exposed and 2) for people who know they are sick to stay home until they are no longer infectious.

Is your immunocompromised status temporary?

One issue with what you’re saying is that we don’t have an accurate way to determine who is infectious. Also, that’s a spectrum, rather than a simple yes/no, with people generally being less contagious as time passes.

I also don’t really understand the reason to test. If you’re saying sick kids should stay home, does it really matter what they’re sick with? If a sick child tests negative for covid, would you really say it’s ok for them to go back to school before they’re better?

Of course not! But then we could contact trace and quarantine exposed kids to cut down on the spread.

You want to bring back quarantines for contacts? That’s absurd for a virus this widespread. The CDC doesn’t even recommend it.

Better option would be mandatory weekly testing and several days of testing for contacts. The CDC is a hot mess in their covid recommendations and failed us.

That to me is not the issue. What does the school system then do if there are positive tests? Can’t have the kids miss weeks at a time again. Just not sustainable.

If kids test positive, they are sick. They get the work sent home and the parents can work with them or MCPS offers free tutoring.

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Anonymous wrote:First of all, we can all agree that CDC guidelines have been designed to get workers back on the job to pad the wallets of the already wealthy, not for acute public health reasons. Second, the CDC is about to conveniently change their guidelines right as kids go back to school to favor…wait for it..NOT public health, but keeping low wage workers at work. Shocker!

Covid is a cold. People have been going to work and school with colds forever.

Its not a cold. Grow up already.

It’s not far off if you’re vaccinated and boosted.

I’m my experience, colds have generally been far more miserable.

You were fortunate, not my experience at all.

I don't know about that. I think my experience was pretty common.

I suspect the pp is the sort of person that acts like she’s on her deathbed every time she gets sick.

I think you need some serious empathy lessons and don't care about anyone but yourself. It is not mild for everyone.

From the person who wants the rest of the world to change their behavior so she doesn’t have to take responsibility for herself…

What are you talking about? We are extremely careful and not the fake careful people pretend to be. I want basic precautions. That’s not unreasonable given how contagious this is.

There are certainly some posters here demanding ridiculous Covid policies on everyone because they won’t take whatever individual measures are necessary to protect themselves. There's no reason for indefinite masking or quarantine policies at this point.

Clearly you don’t get Covid and the high transmission rate. Of course those of us concerned still mask but it’s not that simple in a large school with 1000+ students and staff.

You clearly don’t get that Covid is with us permanently. You’re not going to escape it if you’re willing to rejoin society.

Permanent mask mandates and kicking healthy kids out of school aren’t going to change that.

We do get its permanent and we have people like you to thank. No, I'm not willing to get covid over and over again. NO one is saying permanent mask mandates but given the high level of transmission and large schools, they make sense right now. And, kids who have covid are not healthy.

Stop being disingenuous about masks. Even when cases were low back in the spring posters like you were still wringing your hands about the removal of the mask mandate. It will never be enough for you.

I can’t tell if these people are being disingenuous or if they simply don’t understand covid. The PP’s post suggests she thinks we’re in a temporary situation with spread. That’s ridiculous. We have high immunity in the community right now due to vaccinations and infections. What we’re seeing now is the new baseline level of spread. And viruses rarely get less infectious over time, so we can and should expect this level to continue for the foreseeable future.

If you’re saying we should mask now, you’re effectively saying we should mask forever.

No one thinks we are in a temporary situation but people also don't want to get covid. No one is saying masking forever either. Is this the best you can do to get attention? Look, you won. There will be no precautions this school year. So, don't complain when it spreads like wild fire and your kids are sick, teachers are out, staff are out, bus drivers are out. We can thank you for the show it will be in the fall...

This new variant is far more contegous and you can get it multiple times. Immunity lasts 6-8 weeks at best.

And when it's not a sh*t show, are you going to come back and post about it? Or will you still be whining about the one anecdote you dug up on Twitter?

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Anonymous wrote:First of all, we can all agree that CDC guidelines have been designed to get workers back on the job to pad the wallets of the already wealthy, not for acute public health reasons. Second, the CDC is about to conveniently change their guidelines right as kids go back to school to favor…wait for it..NOT public health, but keeping low wage workers at work. Shocker!

Covid is a cold. People have been going to work and school with colds forever.

Its not a cold. Grow up already.

It’s not far off if you’re vaccinated and boosted.

I’m my experience, colds have generally been far more miserable.

You were fortunate, not my experience at all.

I don't know about that. I think my experience was pretty common.

I suspect the pp is the sort of person that acts like she’s on her deathbed every time she gets sick.

I think you need some serious empathy lessons and don't care about anyone but yourself. It is not mild for everyone.

From the person who wants the rest of the world to change their behavior so she doesn’t have to take responsibility for herself…

What are you talking about? We are extremely careful and not the fake careful people pretend to be. I want basic precautions. That’s not unreasonable given how contagious this is.

There are certainly some posters here demanding ridiculous Covid policies on everyone because they won’t take whatever individual measures are necessary to protect themselves. There's no reason for indefinite masking or quarantine policies at this point.

Clearly you don’t get Covid and the high transmission rate. Of course those of us concerned still mask but it’s not that simple in a large school with 1000+ students and staff.

You clearly don’t get that Covid is with us permanently. You’re not going to escape it if you’re willing to rejoin society.

Permanent mask mandates and kicking healthy kids out of school aren’t going to change that.

We do get its permanent and we have people like you to thank. No, I'm not willing to get covid over and over again. NO one is saying permanent mask mandates but given the high level of transmission and large schools, they make sense right now. And, kids who have covid are not healthy.

Stop being disingenuous about masks. Even when cases were low back in the spring posters like you were still wringing your hands about the removal of the mask mandate. It will never be enough for you.

No one is being disingenuous re masks. They work fool. Let's not pretend.