Chances of mask mandate in school in the fall ?

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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.

??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.

Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.

For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?

First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.

The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.

Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.

That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.

Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.

You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.

Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.

It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.

It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?

Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?

Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.

Right because schools are full of parents just sitting around in classrooms all day to make sure their kid is appropriately cared for in an emergency. Schools don’t let a kid just choke, or bleed uncontrollably, or not use an epi-pen if a kid has an allergic reaction. Best believe if a school didn’t administer care to a kid in any of those situations they would be held liable.

Most places would provide the same.

And your point is? Any place where a child, especially an ES aged child, has to be dropped off without a parent or guardian is responsible for that child’s care and wellbeing for the time the child is there. Child care may not be the primary purpose but it’s being provided nonetheless.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.

??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.

Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.

For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?

First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.

The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.

Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.

That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.

Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.

You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.

DP. Finally, someone admits that they want the free babysitter.

DP, but it's pretty staggering how many people, including teachers, dismiss the childcare function inherent in public education. I know they think it's some kind of own, but it really shows how much they look down on childcare providers. It's embarrassing.

It’s embarrassing that you think teachers are merely babysitters.

PP didn't say that at all. While children are in school, many parents work. Core hours of many workplaces are built around the school day. Education is the primary function of school, but by happenstance, it serves as supervision while parents are at work. Not sure why this is offensive to you.

It is offensive that people look to educators as babysitters including those who do not work. I taught and find your thinking and devalue of teachers very offensive.

I find it offensive that a former teacher is this dramatically simple-minded.

And for good measure, you insult teachers again.

PP only insulted one (thankfully, former) teacher

Actually, I was the one who responded and currently teach. You are incredibly ungrateful and insensitive, but hey you are just looking for a babysitter so as long as you get that, you are good.

No, I'm just looking for your to fulfill your responsibility to educate and provide childcare. Then I'm good.

You’re the reason your kid won’t have a teacher soon. Teachers are quitting exactly bc of parents like you. I’m like you feel good about your zing. You’re doing great, sweetie.

+1 These parents are the worst.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.

??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.

Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.

For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?

First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.

The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.

Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.

That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.

Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.

You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.

DP. Finally, someone admits that they want the free babysitter.

DP, but it's pretty staggering how many people, including teachers, dismiss the childcare function inherent in public education. I know they think it's some kind of own, but it really shows how much they look down on childcare providers. It's embarrassing.

It’s embarrassing that you think teachers are merely babysitters.

Show me where I used the word "merely" or "solely." I didn't. Teachers serve many functions; providing competent adult oversight of children (i.e., childcare) is only one of them, but it's in there.

No, they come into class for their daily lesson and then on to elsewhere.

First, while they're in a given teacher's classroom, they are that teacher's responsibility. Second, elementary kids are mostly with their individual teacher all day. Are those kids fending for themselves the entire time?

Someone's insecurity about their profession isn't my issue. I used to work inpatient psych, including conducting individual and group therapy. When I had a group of patients in a meeting room, their safety was absolutely my responsibility. But I didn't whine and tantrum that I was a "babysitter" - I took that responsibility for their well-being seriously. It's not that hard.

It must be insecurity at this point. They so happen to provide supervision during the school day, while they are educating. This doesn't diminish the work they do. It doesn't matter how many times it's restated; they'll still take offense.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.

??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.

Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.

For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?

First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.

The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.

Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.

That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.

Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.

You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.

Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.

It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.

It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?

Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?

Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.

Right because schools are full of parents just sitting around in classrooms all day to make sure their kid is appropriately cared for in an emergency. Schools don’t let a kid just choke, or bleed uncontrollably, or not use an epi-pen if a kid has an allergic reaction. Best believe if a school didn’t administer care to a kid in any of those situations they would be held liable.

Most places would provide the same.

And your point is? Any place where a child, especially an ES aged child, has to be dropped off without a parent or guardian is responsible for that child’s care and wellbeing for the time the child is there. Child care may not be the primary purpose but it’s being provided nonetheless.

Most places would provide the same for adults, children, anyone. Same if the parents are with child.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.

??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.

Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.

For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?

First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.

The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.

Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.

That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.

Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.

You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.

DP. Finally, someone admits that they want the free babysitter.

DP, but it's pretty staggering how many people, including teachers, dismiss the childcare function inherent in public education. I know they think it's some kind of own, but it really shows how much they look down on childcare providers. It's embarrassing.

It’s embarrassing that you think teachers are merely babysitters.

Show me where I used the word "merely" or "solely." I didn't. Teachers serve many functions; providing competent adult oversight of children (i.e., childcare) is only one of them, but it's in there.

No, they come into class for their daily lesson and then on to elsewhere.

First, while they're in a given teacher's classroom, they are that teacher's responsibility. Second, elementary kids are mostly with their individual teacher all day. Are those kids fending for themselves the entire time?

Someone's insecurity about their profession isn't my issue. I used to work inpatient psych, including conducting individual and group therapy. When I had a group of patients in a meeting room, their safety was absolutely my responsibility. But I didn't whine and tantrum that I was a "babysitter" - I took that responsibility for their well-being seriously. It's not that hard.

It must be insecurity at this point. They so happen to provide supervision during the school day, while they are educating. This doesn't diminish the work they do. It doesn't matter how many times it's restated; they'll still take offense.

There is no correlation between inpatient psych and school. Nice try, but not.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.

??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.

Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.

For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?

First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.

The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.

Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.

That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.

Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.

You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.

Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.

It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.

It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?

Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?

Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.

Right because schools are full of parents just sitting around in classrooms all day to make sure their kid is appropriately cared for in an emergency. Schools don’t let a kid just choke, or bleed uncontrollably, or not use an epi-pen if a kid has an allergic reaction. Best believe if a school didn’t administer care to a kid in any of those situations they would be held liable.

Actually some do, especially in MCPS. I have a kid who had a reaction to a food a teacher gave that was off limits. Teacher told the child it was fine. At pick up, kid was clearly struggling and we went directly to the ER. Teacher after that, still did that kind of stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.

??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.

Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.

For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?

First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.

The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.

Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.

That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.

Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.

You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.

Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.

It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.

It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?

Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?

Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.

??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?

They should have the child transported to the emergency room and parent should meet the child there.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, schools provide education and act as a form of childcare. The problem we saw in 2020 was that parents relied on school to be the only form of childcare they have. They also rely on schools to be everything these days…. This is why teachers are burned out. People claim they care about education when they only care about schools being open for childcare purposes. This is obvious when people point out january was a learning disaster but no one cared bc the schools were open. Just be honest about why you want schools open.

thid is unredeemably stupid. prior to covid school shutdowns I was *legally required* to send my child to school, where the school is in loco parentis. As in, I could have had my child removed from my care and been charged with educational neglect. and the “learning disaster” happened when schools were closed because young kids cannot learn virtually anywhere close to the way they do in person. you’re so wrong on every front.

Kids can learn virtually but most need support from an adult, i.e. you. Did you supplement? Did you work with them? Or are you one of the parents who thinks schools should do everything and you don't even believe in homework?

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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.

??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.

Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.

For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?

First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.

The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.

Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.

That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.

Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.

You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.

DP. Finally, someone admits that they want the free babysitter.

DP, but it's pretty staggering how many people, including teachers, dismiss the childcare function inherent in public education. I know they think it's some kind of own, but it really shows how much they look down on childcare providers. It's embarrassing.

It’s embarrassing that you think teachers are merely babysitters.

Show me where I used the word "merely" or "solely." I didn't. Teachers serve many functions; providing competent adult oversight of children (i.e., childcare) is only one of them, but it's in there.

No, they come into class for their daily lesson and then on to elsewhere.

First, while they're in a given teacher's classroom, they are that teacher's responsibility. Second, elementary kids are mostly with their individual teacher all day. Are those kids fending for themselves the entire time?

Someone's insecurity about their profession isn't my issue. I used to work inpatient psych, including conducting individual and group therapy. When I had a group of patients in a meeting room, their safety was absolutely my responsibility. But I didn't whine and tantrum that I was a "babysitter" - I took that responsibility for their well-being seriously. It's not that hard.

It must be insecurity at this point. They so happen to provide supervision during the school day, while they are educating. This doesn't diminish the work they do. It doesn't matter how many times it's restated; they'll still take offense.

There is no correlation between inpatient psych and school. Nice try, but not.

Yes there is, dummy. When the state requires you put a child in school or an adult in a psych ward, the state had an affirmative obligation to care for both.

the whole “school is not chilcare” was a transparently self-serving bit of stupid claptrap that some teachers thought was a clever way to demonstrate that virtual learning was all we were entitled to ever. nobody believed in then, nobody believes it now.

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I can’t believe people are actually with a straight face attempting to argue that ES do not provide child care in addition to education, as if a 5 year old is being left to their own devices all day outside of their educational lesson.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.

??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.

Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.

For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?

First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.

The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.

Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.

That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.

Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.

You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.

Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.

It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.

It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?

Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?

Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.

??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?

Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, schools provide education and act as a form of childcare. The problem we saw in 2020 was that parents relied on school to be the only form of childcare they have. They also rely on schools to be everything these days…. This is why teachers are burned out. People claim they care about education when they only care about schools being open for childcare purposes. This is obvious when people point out january was a learning disaster but no one cared bc the schools were open. Just be honest about why you want schools open.

thid is unredeemably stupid. prior to covid school shutdowns I was *legally required* to send my child to school, where the school is in loco parentis. As in, I could have had my child removed from my care and been charged with educational neglect. and the “learning disaster” happened when schools were closed because young kids cannot learn virtually anywhere close to the way they do in person. you’re so wrong on every front.

Kids can learn virtually but most need support from an adult, i.e. you. Did you supplement? Did you work with them? Or are you one of the parents who thinks schools should do everything and you don't even believe in homework?

Oh yeah imagine that - kids need an adult to physically support their learning and engagement. Kind of like, a teacher in a classroom? Huh.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.

??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.

Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.

For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?

First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.

The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.

Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.

That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.

Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.

You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.

DP. Finally, someone admits that they want the free babysitter.

DP, but it's pretty staggering how many people, including teachers, dismiss the childcare function inherent in public education. I know they think it's some kind of own, but it really shows how much they look down on childcare providers. It's embarrassing.

It’s embarrassing that you think teachers are merely babysitters.

PP didn't say that at all. While children are in school, many parents work. Core hours of many workplaces are built around the school day. Education is the primary function of school, but by happenstance, it serves as supervision while parents are at work. Not sure why this is offensive to you.

It is offensive that people look to educators as babysitters including those who do not work. I taught and find your thinking and devalue of teachers very offensive.

I find it offensive that a former teacher is this dramatically simple-minded.

And for good measure, you insult teachers again.

This teacher (to the extent that they are a teacher)...yes. Had to be done. Way too simple-minded on this.

Cemented what I said about what you think of teachers. We suck and think lowly of teachers,
but you got your sitter.

You realize you're not a college professor, right? Pretending like it's the same thing doesn't make it so.

And the insults keep coming. You are really not helping yourself and only serving to prove what those who you are arguing with are saying. -np

Teachers and college professors don't provide the same function. To say that an ES teacher's responsibility is the same as a college professor's is asinine. An ES teacher has MORE responsibility.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.

??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.

Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.

For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?

First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.

The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.

Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.

That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.

Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.

You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.

Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.

It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.

It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?

Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?

Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.

??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?

Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.

The school called you, yes?

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Anonymous wrote:The kids were way more affected by lack of teachers, constant subs, and shuffled into auditoriums not learning anything than virtual. You’re just lying to yourself if you think any differently.

??? Okay, fortunately you're just a message board whiner not in charge of anything. See you in school (or not) in two weeks.

Lol… as if that post was making a case for virtual. It wasn’t but apparently you can’t comprehend and read between the lines. Virtual wasn’t great but what happened in January was even worse. The fact that people refuse to understand this is baffling and it basically proves the point that people who claim to care about education just really care about someone else babysitting their kids. They learned close to nothing in those weeks (but they got to see people so it’s better!) most kids straight up ditched.

100%-absolutely they want the school to be a free babysitter.

For many folks this is an absolute reality. Will you be making a real point soon?

First, you make a real point. School is not an never has been a babysitter.

The way that you characterize it as babysitting for all those who need to provide for their families is just foolish. It's just message board nonsense that means nothing. You make no legitimate point. You're hopeless and irrelevant to any real conversation.

Ironically, you said that “many folks” use it as a babysitter so you characterized it as such.

That's not irony. And yes, one of the inherent functions of school that's woven into how our society is constructed is childcare.

Np. I am a teacher and an educator. I am not a babysitter and am tired of your disrespectful posts lowering us to such level. School was not “constructed” to serve as childcare. Hire a nanny for your babysitting needs.

You also serve the function of childcare. Maybe you don't want that responsibility, but it's yours.

Or, maybe you don't want the responsibility of your kids. That is the bigger issue.

It's really not. Kids get dropped off, kids get taken care of. MCPS does a pretty good job of that.

It depends on the child and school but some of us want education not child care. We can take responsibility for our own kids.

And if your child has a medical emergency at school? They should say well we don’t provide child care so we will call mom and let her know *shrug*, she’s responsible for her child’s care after all. Do you all engage in any critical thinking before you make these arguments?

Yes, as a matter of fact, they do call the parent in a medical emergency. Hence, not a babysitter.

Are you really this unintelligent? You actually think that if a kid has a medical emergency at school that they do nothing other than call mom?

Dp. Interesting enough, my child did have a medical emergency and the school did just call me. Schools are not for medical emergencies and to rely fully on them for that is pollyannaish.

??? The school called you, yes? They cared for your child by taking them from the classroom and facilitating that communication?

Nope, was left to walk alone to office after falling and knocked unconscious and was diagnosed with a concussion later that day. Ambulance should have been called. So you are dead wrong.

so the school failed its duty to care for the child …