Langley college decisions

[Anonymous]

Yes, that is correct, I left out the Yale admit from the list. Will post a corrected list when I post Langley stats, which I now have.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a kind soul that would be willing to share the list from this year's Senior Scope?

Just the list of colleges (no personal info) and the number of students enrolling.

Even a short list of the top ten colleges with number enrolling would be helpful.

Of the reported schools, about 80 kids going to the the names DCUM loves. Maybe 50 of you don’t count UVA.

There's no consensus as to the "names DCUM loves."

Would it be top 25? Ivies plus schools like NYU, Georgetown, Carnegie Mellon?

Yes. Yale, Berkeley, Michigan, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Dartmouth, Wellesley, Penn…

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some Langley parents chasing their own tails on this thread. They are desperate to make the case that Langley is “better” than other schools but then claiming it’s harder to get into UVA and other schools coming from Langley.

Race to nowhere?

Eh, it’s an anonymous board. You don’t know who is making which point.

I don’t think Langley’s education is different than any other FCPS school, it’s just a pretty intense student body when half the class graduates with honors and that can make rankings and admissions a little wonky.

I watched some of the Langley graduation livestream yesterday and half the class definitely did not graduate with honors. I would ballpark it at less than 25% of the class. Is it a 4.0 weighted GPA?

According to my Langley senior, yes, half the class had a 4.0 or above. I’m sure this varies some from class to class.

This is because people self select into Gen Ed, honors, and AP. So lots of people are getting A’s in the track they choose. Back in my day, there was one track, and there were A, B, and C students in each class.

+ 1 The transcript is important!

Would it be better to have straight As and take a mix of gen Ed, honors and AP vs taking all honors and getting a mix of As and Bs? The gpa May end up being the same but the mix of classes and grades could be different.

I don’t want to push all APs on my child his junior year.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some Langley parents chasing their own tails on this thread. They are desperate to make the case that Langley is “better” than other schools but then claiming it’s harder to get into UVA and other schools coming from Langley.

Race to nowhere?

Eh, it’s an anonymous board. You don’t know who is making which point.

I don’t think Langley’s education is different than any other FCPS school, it’s just a pretty intense student body when half the class graduates with honors and that can make rankings and admissions a little wonky.

I watched some of the Langley graduation livestream yesterday and half the class definitely did not graduate with honors. I would ballpark it at less than 25% of the class. Is it a 4.0 weighted GPA?

According to my Langley senior, yes, half the class had a 4.0 or above. I’m sure this varies some from class to class.

This is because people self select into Gen Ed, honors, and AP. So lots of people are getting A’s in the track they choose. Back in my day, there was one track, and there were A, B, and C students in each class.

I agree and this is an issue with Cum Laude society at other schools too. Yes, you may have a 4.7 but did you take AP Calc, AP Bio, AP comp/gov? Or AP psych and art? The problem with these “honors” is that kids who took the safe route get acknowledged and kids who challenge themselves don’t. All while we preach to them to not be afraid of failure and seek challenge and rigor.

DP. This is very well put and something that didn't even occur to me. My DC took very challenging courses, but wound up with a 3.89 - so no recognition or award. Several of DC's friends took the easier route you described and wound up with over 4.0 at graduation - and were labeled Honors graduates. Kind of sucks not to have DC's hard work acknowledged. Maybe DC should have just taken the easier classes too.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some Langley parents chasing their own tails on this thread. They are desperate to make the case that Langley is “better” than other schools but then claiming it’s harder to get into UVA and other schools coming from Langley.

Race to nowhere?

Eh, it’s an anonymous board. You don’t know who is making which point.

I don’t think Langley’s education is different than any other FCPS school, it’s just a pretty intense student body when half the class graduates with honors and that can make rankings and admissions a little wonky.

I watched some of the Langley graduation livestream yesterday and half the class definitely did not graduate with honors. I would ballpark it at less than 25% of the class. Is it a 4.0 weighted GPA?

According to my Langley senior, yes, half the class had a 4.0 or above. I’m sure this varies some from class to class.

This is because people self select into Gen Ed, honors, and AP. So lots of people are getting A’s in the track they choose. Back in my day, there was one track, and there were A, B, and C students in each class.

I agree and this is an issue with Cum Laude society at other schools too. Yes, you may have a 4.7 but did you take AP Calc, AP Bio, AP comp/gov? Or AP psych and art? The problem with these “honors” is that kids who took the safe route get acknowledged and kids who challenge themselves don’t. All while we preach to them to not be afraid of failure and seek challenge and rigor.

DP. This is very well put and something that didn't even occur to me. My DC took very challenging courses, but wound up with a 3.89 - so no recognition or award. Several of DC's friends took the easier route you described and wound up with over 4.0 at graduation - and were labeled Honors graduates. Kind of sucks not to have DC's hard work acknowledged. Maybe DC should have just taken the easier classes too.

Your DC probably had better college options but the adults really do need to do a better job of rewarding what they encourage instead of simple, lazy definitions. My DC was in the same situation. Same with “advanced” diplomas - it’s not recognized but a 4.0 in gen Ed is. I get that schools are afraid of all this but they literally tell kids to not fear failure but then only reward perfection. Hum.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some Langley parents chasing their own tails on this thread. They are desperate to make the case that Langley is “better” than other schools but then claiming it’s harder to get into UVA and other schools coming from Langley.

Race to nowhere?

Eh, it’s an anonymous board. You don’t know who is making which point.

I don’t think Langley’s education is different than any other FCPS school, it’s just a pretty intense student body when half the class graduates with honors and that can make rankings and admissions a little wonky.

I watched some of the Langley graduation livestream yesterday and half the class definitely did not graduate with honors. I would ballpark it at less than 25% of the class. Is it a 4.0 weighted GPA?

According to my Langley senior, yes, half the class had a 4.0 or above. I’m sure this varies some from class to class.

This is because people self select into Gen Ed, honors, and AP. So lots of people are getting A’s in the track they choose. Back in my day, there was one track, and there were A, B, and C students in each class.

+ 1 The transcript is important!

Would it be better to have straight As and take a mix of gen Ed, honors and AP vs taking all honors and getting a mix of As and Bs? The gpa May end up being the same but the mix of classes and grades could be different.

I don’t want to push all APs on my child his junior year.

One of the most annoying things I've heard from college admissions counselors during more than one zoom seminar was their answer to this question. After all the conversation around kids not working themselves to death in order to have competitive applications the answer to "the A or the AP" was both. Take the AP AND get the A. Some of those people talk out of both sides of their mouths.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some Langley parents chasing their own tails on this thread. They are desperate to make the case that Langley is “better” than other schools but then claiming it’s harder to get into UVA and other schools coming from Langley.

Race to nowhere?

Eh, it’s an anonymous board. You don’t know who is making which point.

I don’t think Langley’s education is different than any other FCPS school, it’s just a pretty intense student body when half the class graduates with honors and that can make rankings and admissions a little wonky.

I watched some of the Langley graduation livestream yesterday and half the class definitely did not graduate with honors. I would ballpark it at less than 25% of the class. Is it a 4.0 weighted GPA?

According to my Langley senior, yes, half the class had a 4.0 or above. I’m sure this varies some from class to class.

This is because people self select into Gen Ed, honors, and AP. So lots of people are getting A’s in the track they choose. Back in my day, there was one track, and there were A, B, and C students in each class.

+ 1 The transcript is important!

Would it be better to have straight As and take a mix of gen Ed, honors and AP vs taking all honors and getting a mix of As and Bs? The gpa May end up being the same but the mix of classes and grades could be different.

I don’t want to push all APs on my child his junior year.

One of the most annoying things I've heard from college admissions counselors during more than one zoom seminar was their answer to this question. After all the conversation around kids not working themselves to death in order to have competitive applications the answer to "the A or the AP" was both. Take the AP AND get the A. Some of those people talk out of both sides of their mouths.

+1
They all do this and I’m so tired of colleges saying “be you”, “find your interests”, “challenge yourself”, “don’t stress”, “care for your mental health”… then demand rigor and brag their avg freshman stats are 4.5 1500. Colleges are a big part of the problem with teenage anxiety and depression. But rankings, amirite?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like some Langley parents chasing their own tails on this thread. They are desperate to make the case that Langley is “better” than other schools but then claiming it’s harder to get into UVA and other schools coming from Langley.

Race to nowhere?

Eh, it’s an anonymous board. You don’t know who is making which point.

I don’t think Langley’s education is different than any other FCPS school, it’s just a pretty intense student body when half the class graduates with honors and that can make rankings and admissions a little wonky.

I watched some of the Langley graduation livestream yesterday and half the class definitely did not graduate with honors. I would ballpark it at less than 25% of the class. Is it a 4.0 weighted GPA?

According to my Langley senior, yes, half the class had a 4.0 or above. I’m sure this varies some from class to class.

This is because people self select into Gen Ed, honors, and AP. So lots of people are getting A’s in the track they choose. Back in my day, there was one track, and there were A, B, and C students in each class.

I agree and this is an issue with Cum Laude society at other schools too. Yes, you may have a 4.7 but did you take AP Calc, AP Bio, AP comp/gov? Or AP psych and art? The problem with these “honors” is that kids who took the safe route get acknowledged and kids who challenge themselves don’t. All while we preach to them to not be afraid of failure and seek challenge and rigor.

DP. This is very well put and something that didn't even occur to me. My DC took very challenging courses, but wound up with a 3.89 - so no recognition or award. Several of DC's friends took the easier route you described and wound up with over 4.0 at graduation - and were labeled Honors graduates. Kind of sucks not to have DC's hard work acknowledged. Maybe DC should have just taken the easier classes too.

Your DC probably had better college options but the adults really do need to do a better job of rewarding what they encourage instead of simple, lazy definitions. My DC was in the same situation. Same with “advanced” diplomas - it’s not recognized but a 4.0 in gen Ed is. I get that schools are afraid of all this but they literally tell kids to not fear failure but then only reward perfection. Hum.

+1 you have to be aware that this will happen, sadly. The right path depends on the type of student. You need a lot of affirmation at home about internal gratification and choosing the path that.’s right for you and focusing on your own goals etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some Langley parents chasing their own tails on this thread. They are desperate to make the case that Langley is “better” than other schools but then claiming it’s harder to get into UVA and other schools coming from Langley.

Race to nowhere?

Eh, it’s an anonymous board. You don’t know who is making which point.

I don’t think Langley’s education is different than any other FCPS school, it’s just a pretty intense student body when half the class graduates with honors and that can make rankings and admissions a little wonky.

I watched some of the Langley graduation livestream yesterday and half the class definitely did not graduate with honors. I would ballpark it at less than 25% of the class. Is it a 4.0 weighted GPA?

According to my Langley senior, yes, half the class had a 4.0 or above. I’m sure this varies some from class to class.

This is because people self select into Gen Ed, honors, and AP. So lots of people are getting A’s in the track they choose. Back in my day, there was one track, and there were A, B, and C students in each class.

+ 1 The transcript is important!

Would it be better to have straight As and take a mix of gen Ed, honors and AP vs taking all honors and getting a mix of As and Bs? The gpa May end up being the same but the mix of classes and grades could be different.

I don’t want to push all APs on my child his junior year.

One of the most annoying things I've heard from college admissions counselors during more than one zoom seminar was their answer to this question. After all the conversation around kids not working themselves to death in order to have competitive applications the answer to "the A or the AP" was both. Take the AP AND get the A. Some of those people talk out of both sides of their mouths.

+1
They all do this and I’m so tired of colleges saying “be you”, “find your interests”, “challenge yourself”, “don’t stress”, “care for your mental health”… then demand rigor and brag their avg freshman stats are 4.5 1500. Colleges are a big part of the problem with teenage anxiety and depression. But rankings, amirite?

The problem is not colleges, per se, but the rankings and parent/student hopes and dreams. Colleges need to be true to their rigor. Harvard SHOULD be hard to get into. However, if Harvard told kids below a certain GPA and SAT not to apply, they would miss a lot of URM, the less-academic, diamond-in-the-roughs, and their overall applications/selectivity ratio would fall. As for parents and students, they all want to believe that Junior is bright and that only the best lies ahead. Thus, both are apt to misjudge the reality of the situation and strive for something improbable. Of course, most of the time that means disillusionment on the backend. What you claim to want is for Harvard to tell you that the students they accept are really smart and innovative. Yes, those students do take a bunch of APs and get As in them. They also do other things well. There, I said it for you and them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some Langley parents chasing their own tails on this thread. They are desperate to make the case that Langley is “better” than other schools but then claiming it’s harder to get into UVA and other schools coming from Langley.

Race to nowhere?

Eh, it’s an anonymous board. You don’t know who is making which point.

I don’t think Langley’s education is different than any other FCPS school, it’s just a pretty intense student body when half the class graduates with honors and that can make rankings and admissions a little wonky.

I watched some of the Langley graduation livestream yesterday and half the class definitely did not graduate with honors. I would ballpark it at less than 25% of the class. Is it a 4.0 weighted GPA?

According to my Langley senior, yes, half the class had a 4.0 or above. I’m sure this varies some from class to class.

This is because people self select into Gen Ed, honors, and AP. So lots of people are getting A’s in the track they choose. Back in my day, there was one track, and there were A, B, and C students in each class.

I agree and this is an issue with Cum Laude society at other schools too. Yes, you may have a 4.7 but did you take AP Calc, AP Bio, AP comp/gov? Or AP psych and art? The problem with these “honors” is that kids who took the safe route get acknowledged and kids who challenge themselves don’t. All while we preach to them to not be afraid of failure and seek challenge and rigor.

DP. This is very well put and something that didn't even occur to me. My DC took very challenging courses, but wound up with a 3.89 - so no recognition or award. Several of DC's friends took the easier route you described and wound up with over 4.0 at graduation - and were labeled Honors graduates. Kind of sucks not to have DC's hard work acknowledged. Maybe DC should have just taken the easier classes too.

Didn’t your kid get a .5 bump for honors and a 1 point bump for AP? What makes you think they would get over a 4 in gen ed? You are discounting those other kids accomplishments.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some Langley parents chasing their own tails on this thread. They are desperate to make the case that Langley is “better” than other schools but then claiming it’s harder to get into UVA and other schools coming from Langley.

Race to nowhere?

Eh, it’s an anonymous board. You don’t know who is making which point.

I don’t think Langley’s education is different than any other FCPS school, it’s just a pretty intense student body when half the class graduates with honors and that can make rankings and admissions a little wonky.

I watched some of the Langley graduation livestream yesterday and half the class definitely did not graduate with honors. I would ballpark it at less than 25% of the class. Is it a 4.0 weighted GPA?

According to my Langley senior, yes, half the class had a 4.0 or above. I’m sure this varies some from class to class.

This is because people self select into Gen Ed, honors, and AP. So lots of people are getting A’s in the track they choose. Back in my day, there was one track, and there were A, B, and C students in each class.

+ 1 The transcript is important!

Would it be better to have straight As and take a mix of gen Ed, honors and AP vs taking all honors and getting a mix of As and Bs? The gpa May end up being the same but the mix of classes and grades could be different.

I don’t want to push all APs on my child his junior year.

One of the most annoying things I've heard from college admissions counselors during more than one zoom seminar was their answer to this question. After all the conversation around kids not working themselves to death in order to have competitive applications the answer to "the A or the AP" was both. Take the AP AND get the A. Some of those people talk out of both sides of their mouths.

+1
They all do this and I’m so tired of colleges saying “be you”, “find your interests”, “challenge yourself”, “don’t stress”, “care for your mental health”… then demand rigor and brag their avg freshman stats are 4.5 1500. Colleges are a big part of the problem with teenage anxiety and depression. But rankings, amirite?

The problem is not colleges, per se, but the rankings and parent/student hopes and dreams. Colleges need to be true to their rigor. Harvard SHOULD be hard to get into. However, if Harvard told kids below a certain GPA and SAT not to apply, they would miss a lot of URM, the less-academic, diamond-in-the-roughs, and their overall applications/selectivity ratio would fall. As for parents and students, they all want to believe that Junior is bright and that only the best lies ahead. Thus, both are apt to misjudge the reality of the situation and strive for something improbable. Of course, most of the time that means disillusionment on the backend. What you claim to want is for Harvard to tell you that the students they accept are really smart and innovative. Yes, those students do take a bunch of APs and get As in them. They also do other things well. There, I said it for you and them.

Nope. Harvard never crossed my mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, that is correct, I left out the Yale admit from the list. Will post a corrected list when I post Langley stats, which I now have.

Could you please post the Langley stats? Would appreciate.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that is correct, I left out the Yale admit from the list. Will post a corrected list when I post Langley stats, which I now have.

Could you please post the Langley stats? Would appreciate.

🙄 Enough already. The college your snowflake gets into is mainly determined by your snowflake, not which school he/she went to. You want Ivy or close, obviously. Take all APs in core subjects, take extra APs in the extra sciences etc., get A’s in them all, get mid 1500s+ SATs, do sustained ECs and write killer essays. Then if your aren’t URM or first gen or sports recruit or long double legacy then hope you’re just incredibly lucky. Your snowflake can do that at any school. (Or not.) if only some of this is in reach and those schools are what are only acceptable to you, then move to South Dakota and apply from there.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that is correct, I left out the Yale admit from the list. Will post a corrected list when I post Langley stats, which I now have.

Could you please post the Langley stats? Would appreciate.

🙄 Enough already. The college your snowflake gets into is mainly determined by your snowflake, not which school he/she went to. You want Ivy or close, obviously. Take all APs in core subjects, take extra APs in the extra sciences etc., get A’s in them all, get mid 1500s+ SATs, do sustained ECs and write killer essays. Then if your aren’t URM or first gen or sports recruit or long double legacy then hope you’re just incredibly lucky. Your snowflake can do that at any school. (Or not.) if only some of this is in reach and those schools are what are only acceptable to you, then move to South Dakota and apply from there.

x10000000

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that is correct, I left out the Yale admit from the list. Will post a corrected list when I post Langley stats, which I now have.

Could you please post the Langley stats? Would appreciate.

Stats? You mean GPA/test scores of kids? No one could possibly know this. Or did you mean college acceptances and the number of kids going to each school? Again, the list is incomplete because it's entirely self-reported.