$7/gallon gas is coming

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Anonymous wrote:Biden administration wanted less domestic energy production and distribution.

We got it.


Which has zero impact on the gallon of gas for a car cost. That is pegged to the global market.


You are being a little convenient with your dissection of the issue. Global fuel prices are pegged to demand. When we make more, and are more self reliant, we have more ability to manipulate fuel prices or internally supplement. Biden cut production via canceling the pipeline and future leases. He then asked OPEC to lower the price of fuel. They said no so he tapped our emergency reserve. And this was all before Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia already supplies Europe with tons of oil and approximately 20% of our oil comes from Russia too. Biden made colossal blunders cutting off our current and future production and lifting sanctions on Russia 8 months ago. We are going to bear that fruit in higher fuel prices. And Teslas don’t help. Our food and other essentials are primarily shipped by Truck. Yes even your food from Whole Foods comes by Truck. So all prices will sky rocket. Biden is just criminally stupid.


lol what?

What does Tesla have to do with this? Or is that just what you say when you mean electric vehicles? I think electric cars are the future but it's pretty irrelevant in this conversation about short term fuel prices. Also, I'm not a fan of Musk. He's a Republican/Libertarian. I hope he moves to Mars.
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The Tesla comment was directed at the commenter who keeps trying to say this is all a good thing because it will push the US toward electric cars. I’m fairly sure you knew that. Electric vehicles aren’t there yet. So people can be pushed and prodded all day long but in the end, we still need trucks that actually drive long haul distances. We aren’t there yet.


Have you ever heard of trains? Far far more efficient and reliable than trucks. Which party tries to limit rail infrastructure in this country? Hm?
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Poorer people that don’t live in or near metro areas can only afford gas vehicles (used or existing). So this only hurts the poor. Biden and the Dems are failing their constituents. Between the war, inflation, and a retreating stock market, the Dems will be wiped out this fall.
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Anonymous wrote:Gas should get more expensive. Good. Let the people buying these ridiculous oversized SUVs and trucks that are a danger to every other road user internalize some of the consequences of their own decisions for a while.


Again, you are not just owning the rednecks here. Price of oil gets incorporated into anything that gets shipped (which is just about everything). Wait until you try to buy airplane tickets for that European vacation this summer.

Higher oil prices will hurt everybody.

An oil tanker left Russian port yesterday destined for the eastern seaboard of the USA. That’s about $60 million worth of oil Americans will pay Russia for. Last year Russia was the second largest importer of oil to the USA. We’re huffing and puffing about sanctions and Nordstream 2 but there isn’t a single politician right now even whispering about actually hitting Russia where it hurts economically because it would cause a ton of pain here in the USA.


...unless higher oil prices force us to change our energy consumption system in a way that benefits us all in the long run...


You’re talking about a decades long transition that we aren’t close to being ready to complete or even seriously start. As the price of oil goes up EVERYTHING else will increase in price, including the cost of the energy transition you’re talking about. Where do you think the diesel energy you need to extract and transport minerals for the energy transition come from? Yes, we’ll have to do in the long term. But screw this up in the short run and you’ll see a wave of populism across the whole planet that will make you wish for the good old days of Trump.


Sure, and if prices stay the same or low then the transition will never get underway. We've seen oil shocks and crises for at least half a century and we've barely made any effort to do something about it. It's not even the politicians' fault, because it's people like you who've lost their minds at the cost of upgrading from an oil-based system. So now here we are, with Russia owning 60% of the gas to Europe and we wonder why we don't have leverage. Look in the mirror and get tough.


Ok city rat. The technology isn’t there yet. There aren’t hybrid or electric trucks that can perform the way we need them to. All the new trucks coming on the market for the weekend warriors only have a range of 100 miles when they are actually loaded up. Sorry— but facts matter and in a lot of this country, people drive 100 all the time and they can’t wait a day for their truck to refuel. Nope. Tech isn’t there yet for our consumer truck market or vans or for our shipping trucks. You need to get out of your condo, stop reading the New Yorker and interact with the real world. Or, we can all starve while our food rots in fields and factories because the electro trucks ran out of power along the highway. It all makes sense that Biden won. Our country is filled with absolute imbecile like you.


Republicans are bullies. See how they never can discuss anything without calling names?

If you can’t afford to live on rural land 100 miles from the nearest grocery that is really not any problem that the US government should solve. Move closer to a city if you can’t afford fuel. We have electric cars right now and the only reason that there are not more is because auto companies are slow walking the technology so that they can wring every last penny from ICE engines first. Blame them and people who voted against higher mandated fuel efficiency…Republicans.


You are clueless.
Not every one can or even wants to live closer to cities. And, they shouldn't have to in order to satisfy your crazy Utopia. In fact, if everyone did live closer to cities you could not survive because that would mean we would be sacrificing our farming needs.
You have no clue how rural people live. They have trucks because they are essential to their work.
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Republicans have methodically stood in the way of any alternatives to oil and then when the price of oil goes up they say “alternatives are not viable yet” as an excuse to stay dependent on oil. This is 100% a Republican owned problem.
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We did it Joe!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gas should get more expensive. Good. Let the people buying these ridiculous oversized SUVs and trucks that are a danger to every other road user internalize some of the consequences of their own decisions for a while.


Again, you are not just owning the rednecks here. Price of oil gets incorporated into anything that gets shipped (which is just about everything). Wait until you try to buy airplane tickets for that European vacation this summer.

Higher oil prices will hurt everybody.

An oil tanker left Russian port yesterday destined for the eastern seaboard of the USA. That’s about $60 million worth of oil Americans will pay Russia for. Last year Russia was the second largest importer of oil to the USA. We’re huffing and puffing about sanctions and Nordstream 2 but there isn’t a single politician right now even whispering about actually hitting Russia where it hurts economically because it would cause a ton of pain here in the USA.


...unless higher oil prices force us to change our energy consumption system in a way that benefits us all in the long run...


You’re talking about a decades long transition that we aren’t close to being ready to complete or even seriously start. As the price of oil goes up EVERYTHING else will increase in price, including the cost of the energy transition you’re talking about. Where do you think the diesel energy you need to extract and transport minerals for the energy transition come from? Yes, we’ll have to do in the long term. But screw this up in the short run and you’ll see a wave of populism across the whole planet that will make you wish for the good old days of Trump.


Sure, and if prices stay the same or low then the transition will never get underway. We've seen oil shocks and crises for at least half a century and we've barely made any effort to do something about it. It's not even the politicians' fault, because it's people like you who've lost their minds at the cost of upgrading from an oil-based system. So now here we are, with Russia owning 60% of the gas to Europe and we wonder why we don't have leverage. Look in the mirror and get tough.


Ok city rat. The technology isn’t there yet. There aren’t hybrid or electric trucks that can perform the way we need them to. All the new trucks coming on the market for the weekend warriors only have a range of 100 miles when they are actually loaded up. Sorry— but facts matter and in a lot of this country, people drive 100 all the time and they can’t wait a day for their truck to refuel. Nope. Tech isn’t there yet for our consumer truck market or vans or for our shipping trucks. You need to get out of your condo, stop reading the New Yorker and interact with the real world. Or, we can all starve while our food rots in fields and factories because the electro trucks ran out of power along the highway. It all makes sense that Biden won. Our country is filled with absolute imbecile like you.


Republicans are bullies. See how they never can discuss anything without calling names?

If you can’t afford to live on rural land 100 miles from the nearest grocery that is really not any problem that the US government should solve. Move closer to a city if you can’t afford fuel. We have electric cars right now and the only reason that there are not more is because auto companies are slow walking the technology so that they can wring every last penny from ICE engines first. Blame them and people who voted against higher mandated fuel efficiency…Republicans.


You are clueless.
Not every one can or even wants to live closer to cities. And, they shouldn't have to in order to satisfy your crazy Utopia. In fact, if everyone did live closer to cities you could not survive because that would mean we would be sacrificing our farming needs.
You have no clue how rural people live. They have trucks because they are essential to their work.


I didn’t say anyone had to live near a city. Just don’t complain about fuel costs if you choose to live far away from the places you need to frequent. You seem to be the only person clinging to some fantasy “utopia” where you have your desired way of life subsidized by the rest of us. We don’t owe you anything at all. We need to lower out carbon emissions or we all suffer. Don’t complain about reality, get to work instead.
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Listen to these rural martyrs! “You would all starve to death without us”!! Do they really believe that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gas should get more expensive. Good. Let the people buying these ridiculous oversized SUVs and trucks that are a danger to every other road user internalize some of the consequences of their own decisions for a while.


Again, you are not just owning the rednecks here. Price of oil gets incorporated into anything that gets shipped (which is just about everything). Wait until you try to buy airplane tickets for that European vacation this summer.

Higher oil prices will hurt everybody.

An oil tanker left Russian port yesterday destined for the eastern seaboard of the USA. That’s about $60 million worth of oil Americans will pay Russia for. Last year Russia was the second largest importer of oil to the USA. We’re huffing and puffing about sanctions and Nordstream 2 but there isn’t a single politician right now even whispering about actually hitting Russia where it hurts economically because it would cause a ton of pain here in the USA.


...unless higher oil prices force us to change our energy consumption system in a way that benefits us all in the long run...




You’re talking about a decades long transition that we aren’t close to being ready to complete or even seriously start. As the price of oil goes up EVERYTHING else will increase in price, including the cost of the energy transition you’re talking about. Where do you think the diesel energy you need to extract and transport minerals for the energy transition come from? Yes, we’ll have to do in the long term. But screw this up in the short run and you’ll see a wave of populism across the whole planet that will make you wish for the good old days of Trump.


Sure, and if prices stay the same or low then the transition will never get underway. We've seen oil shocks and crises for at least half a century and we've barely made any effort to do something about it. It's not even the politicians' fault, because it's people like you who've lost their minds at the cost of upgrading from an oil-based system. So now here we are, with Russia owning 60% of the gas to Europe and we wonder why we don't have leverage. Look in the mirror and get tough.


Ok city rat. The technology isn’t there yet. There aren’t hybrid or electric trucks that can perform the way we need them to. All the new trucks coming on the market for the weekend warriors only have a range of 100 miles when they are actually loaded up. Sorry— but facts matter and in a lot of this country, people drive 100 all the time and they can’t wait a day for their truck to refuel. Nope. Tech isn’t there yet for our consumer truck market or vans or for our shipping trucks. You need to get out of your condo, stop reading the New Yorker and interact with the real world. Or, we can all starve while our food rots in fields and factories because the electro trucks ran out of power along the highway. It all makes sense that Biden won. Our country is filled with absolute imbecile like you.


Republicans are bullies. See how they never can discuss anything without calling names?

If you can’t afford to live on rural land 100 miles from the nearest grocery that is really not any problem that the US government should solve. Move closer to a city if you can’t afford fuel. We have electric cars right now and the only reason that there are not more is because auto companies are slow walking the technology so that they can wring every last penny from ICE engines first. Blame them and people who voted against higher mandated fuel efficiency…Republicans.


What about those international trips you have booked? I though that you took the “Flight-Free”’pledge like so many Brits have. Why are you still asking for suggestions on the Travel forum? Hypocrites all
Anonymous
Joe Biden drove us off a cliff on energy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Joe Biden drove us off a cliff on energy.


Because of a Canadian pipeline that wouldn't even be running yet? Or maybe it was the privatized grid in Texas that has held up beautifully in extreme weather conditions. You mean those decisions?
Anonymous
Sell your old fashioned granny gas guzzler and get an electric car already. Quit complaining about the price of an outmoded, unnecessary commodity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Listen to these rural martyrs! “You would all starve to death without us”!! Do they really believe that?


No, they know they grow stuff that isn't intended for human consumption. Soy and corn. They just don't know we know it too.
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Anonymous wrote:Listen to these rural martyrs! “You would all starve to death without us”!! Do they really believe that?


No, they know they grow stuff that isn't intended for human consumption. Soy and corn. They just don't know we know it too.


“I know something about you, you sell soy and corn, it isn’t for human food”

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Poorer people that don’t live in or near metro areas can only afford gas vehicles (used or existing). So this only hurts the poor. Biden and the Dems are failing their constituents. Between the war, inflation, and a retreating stock market, the Dems will be wiped out this fall.


Republicans will not solve any of those problems - war, inflation, or stocks. None. People may vote for them because they foolishly think switching Administrations will make a difference, but it won't. The Republicans have no plan to actually change any of those things for the better. Instead, these problems will ease in time, and the Republicans will take credit.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Poorer people that don’t live in or near metro areas can only afford gas vehicles (used or existing). So this only hurts the poor. Biden and the Dems are failing their constituents. Between the war, inflation, and a retreating stock market, the Dems will be wiped out this fall.


Republicans will not solve any of those problems - war, inflation, or stocks. None. People may vote for them because they foolishly think switching Administrations will make a difference, but it won't. The Republicans have no plan to actually change any of those things for the better. Instead, these problems will ease in time, and the Republicans will take credit.


The Republicans wouldn't have cancelled the Keystone pipeline or cracked down on fracking or appoint officials who openly want to make gas as expensive as possible. Democratic policies are behind some of the rises in gas prices (and the soon to follow cost of everything else). The US was a net producer of oil and gas till Biden came into office and in just a year we've lost that status.

Snapping at people and tell them to go get electric cars doesn't help. Virtually all food and goods are transported using gas. Expect to see price of food go up in the supermarket.

And this winter most of the country is seeing record high heating costs too.

However you spin it, life has gotten much more expensive for working and everyday Americans. Under a Democratic administration.
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