ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Many examples? You’re a loser. The vast majority 95% at least kids Jan to July are in the higher grade then Aug-Dec.

ECNL already address RAE and no matter how you break up a one year calendar there will be younger kids who just have a tougher time on average competing with older kids.

The move to SY makes sense because at the entry level they keep kids together and as those kids progress we are keeping more kids wanting to play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Changing from BY to SY trades 3 months of players playing up a grade for 1 month of players playing down a grade.

Which option do you think will result in better players?

Which option do you think will result in more money for clubs?

It's more than the baked-in misalignments, tho. All the cases on one team I am aware of (3) are parents who either redshirted OR the reverse (which still happens even though no longer the IT thing to do like it was back in the 80s and 90s).

I think globally the change is good for youth soccer BUT still causes problems for individuals AND might be a unfortunate curveball for some during this transition while perhaps helping others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Many examples? You’re a loser. The vast majority 95% at least kids Jan to July are in the higher grade then Aug-Dec.

ECNL already address RAE and no matter how you break up a one year calendar there will be younger kids who just have a tougher time on average competing with older kids.

The move to SY makes sense because at the entry level they keep kids together and as those kids progress we are keeping more kids wanting to play.

On one high-level team I am aware of, it affects 17% of the players. It sorta underscores WHO plays youth soccer -- those who can afford it who rightfully try to align their kid to the correct grade when starting and have the resources to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Many examples? You’re a loser. The vast majority 95% at least kids Jan to July are in the higher grade then Aug-Dec.

ECNL already address RAE and no matter how you break up a one year calendar there will be younger kids who just have a tougher time on average competing with older kids.

The move to SY makes sense because at the entry level they keep kids together and as those kids progress we are keeping more kids wanting to play.

On one high-level team I am aware of, it affects 17% of the players. It sorta underscores WHO plays youth soccer -- those who can afford it who rightfully try to align their kid to the correct grade when starting and have the resources to do so.

I'll add some more anecdotal data to the fire. High end club on the east coast 2013 - 5/40 are 8/1-12/31 right now between NL/RL. If you don't think there will be changes, I don't know what to tell you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Changing from BY to SY trades 3 months of players playing up a grade for 1 month of players playing down a grade.

Which option do you think will result in better players?

Which option do you think will result in more money for clubs?

It's more than the baked-in misalignments, tho. All the cases on one team I am aware of (3) are parents who either redshirted OR the reverse (which still happens even though no longer the IT thing to do like it was back in the 80s and 90s).

I think globally the change is good for youth soccer BUT still causes problems for individuals AND might be a unfortunate curveball for some during this transition while perhaps helping others.

The same number of players are born first or born last no matter when the cutoff is defined if its always a 365 day window.

The benefit of 8/1-7/31 is no trapped players in 8th grade.

The problem with 8/1-7/31 is some August birthday players (depending on school district) can play down on a team with mostly players a grade below them in school.

Just to be fair...

The benefit of 1/1-12/31 is that the dates are complely seperate from school which means grade in School doesn't come into play. When you mix grade in school with teams you open the door to hold backs and regrades trying to play down for wins. "It's not fair my 16 year old freshman cant play on a team with kids in their grade." or "My kid is homeschooled so we'll just pick the grade team we think they should play on."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Changing from BY to SY trades 3 months of players playing up a grade for 1 month of players playing down a grade.

Which option do you think will result in better players?

Which option do you think will result in more money for clubs?

It's more than the baked-in misalignments, tho. All the cases on one team I am aware of (3) are parents who either redshirted OR the reverse (which still happens even though no longer the IT thing to do like it was back in the 80s and 90s).

I think globally the change is good for youth soccer BUT still causes problems for individuals AND might be a unfortunate curveball for some during this transition while perhaps helping others.

The same number of players are born first or born last no matter when the cutoff is defined if its always a 365 day window.

The benefit of 8/1-7/31 is no trapped players in 8th grade.

The problem with 8/1-7/31 is some August birthday players (depending on school district) can play down on a team with mostly players a grade below them in school.

Just to be fair...

The benefit of 1/1-12/31 is that the dates are complely seperate from school which means grade in School doesn't come into play. When you mix grade in school with teams you open the door to hold backs and regrades trying to play down for wins. "It's not fair my 16 year old freshman cant play on a team with kids in their grade." or "My kid is homeschooled so we'll just pick the grade team we think they should play on."

The 100% benefit of 8-1 to 7-31 is no trapped players in 8th grade (huge win as that year is a lost year for players). The issue with people saying the problem with 8-1 to 7-31 is grade is wrong. It's still a 12-month window, it doesn't matter the grade ... just as you are saying it was a benefit of 1-1 to 12-31 which means grade in school doesn't come into play. what do you mean? half the teams were in one grade and half in the other - but it was a 12month so fine. but still grades are differnet. no differnet than 8-1 to 7-31 (less grade difference). noboby is playing down ... just like nobody was playing down in BY (even with grade differences). the complaining about playing down makes no sense in a 12-month period. they are not saying it is grade year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Changing from BY to SY trades 3 months of players playing up a grade for 1 month of players playing down a grade.

Which option do you think will result in better players?

Which option do you think will result in more money for clubs?

It's more than the baked-in misalignments, tho. All the cases on one team I am aware of (3) are parents who either redshirted OR the reverse (which still happens even though no longer the IT thing to do like it was back in the 80s and 90s).

I think globally the change is good for youth soccer BUT still causes problems for individuals AND might be a unfortunate curveball for some during this transition while perhaps helping others.

The same number of players are born first or born last no matter when the cutoff is defined if its always a 365 day window.

The benefit of 8/1-7/31 is no trapped players in 8th grade.

The problem with 8/1-7/31 is some August birthday players (depending on school district) can play down on a team with mostly players a grade below them in school.

Just to be fair...

The benefit of 1/1-12/31 is that the dates are complely seperate from school which means grade in School doesn't come into play. When you mix grade in school with teams you open the door to hold backs and regrades trying to play down for wins. "It's not fair my 16 year old freshman cant play on a team with kids in their grade." or "My kid is homeschooled so we'll just pick the grade team we think they should play on."

Sorry, but you reduce BUT not eliminate 8th-grade trapped kids. This is because of grade misalignment, because states are different OR if parents don't have the kid in the grade most do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Changing from BY to SY trades 3 months of players playing up a grade for 1 month of players playing down a grade.

Which option do you think will result in better players?

Which option do you think will result in more money for clubs?

It's more than the baked-in misalignments, tho. All the cases on one team I am aware of (3) are parents who either redshirted OR the reverse (which still happens even though no longer the IT thing to do like it was back in the 80s and 90s).

I think globally the change is good for youth soccer BUT still causes problems for individuals AND might be a unfortunate curveball for some during this transition while perhaps helping others.

The same number of players are born first or born last no matter when the cutoff is defined if its always a 365 day window.

The benefit of 8/1-7/31 is no trapped players in 8th grade.

The problem with 8/1-7/31 is some August birthday players (depending on school district) can play down on a team with mostly players a grade below them in school.

Just to be fair...

The benefit of 1/1-12/31 is that the dates are complely seperate from school which means grade in School doesn't come into play. When you mix grade in school with teams you open the door to hold backs and regrades trying to play down for wins. "It's not fair my 16 year old freshman cant play on a team with kids in their grade." or "My kid is homeschooled so we'll just pick the grade team we think they should play on."

Sorry, but you reduce BUT not eliminate 8th-grade trapped kids. This is because of grade misalignment, because states are different OR if parents don't have the kid in the grade most do.

it eliminates a lot more than it did before

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Changing from BY to SY trades 3 months of players playing up a grade for 1 month of players playing down a grade.

Which option do you think will result in better players?

Which option do you think will result in more money for clubs?

It's more than the baked-in misalignments, tho. All the cases on one team I am aware of (3) are parents who either redshirted OR the reverse (which still happens even though no longer the IT thing to do like it was back in the 80s and 90s).

I think globally the change is good for youth soccer BUT still causes problems for individuals AND might be a unfortunate curveball for some during this transition while perhaps helping others.

The same number of players are born first or born last no matter when the cutoff is defined if its always a 365 day window.

The benefit of 8/1-7/31 is no trapped players in 8th grade.

The problem with 8/1-7/31 is some August birthday players (depending on school district) can play down on a team with mostly players a grade below them in school.

Just to be fair...

The benefit of 1/1-12/31 is that the dates are complely seperate from school which means grade in School doesn't come into play. When you mix grade in school with teams you open the door to hold backs and regrades trying to play down for wins. "It's not fair my 16 year old freshman cant play on a team with kids in their grade." or "My kid is homeschooled so we'll just pick the grade team we think they should play on."

The 100% benefit of 8-1 to 7-31 is no trapped players in 8th grade (huge win as that year is a lost year for players). The issue with people saying the problem with 8-1 to 7-31 is grade is wrong. It's still a 12-month window, it doesn't matter the grade ... just as you are saying it was a benefit of 1-1 to 12-31 which means grade in school doesn't come into play. what do you mean? half the teams were in one grade and half in the other - but it was a 12month so fine. but still grades are differnet. no differnet than 8-1 to 7-31 (less grade difference). noboby is playing down ... just like nobody was playing down in BY (even with grade differences). the complaining about playing down makes no sense in a 12-month period. they are not saying it is grade year.

I don't think the trapped season (it's not a year, btw), is a lost one. It wasn't ideal but sometimes it wasn't all that bad, either, where kids played with a new team and coach that helped their development WHICH, BTW, might have been leagues better than their 9th grade teammates if the HS experience wasn't great.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Changing from BY to SY trades 3 months of players playing up a grade for 1 month of players playing down a grade.

Which option do you think will result in better players?

Which option do you think will result in more money for clubs?

It's more than the baked-in misalignments, tho. All the cases on one team I am aware of (3) are parents who either redshirted OR the reverse (which still happens even though no longer the IT thing to do like it was back in the 80s and 90s).

I think globally the change is good for youth soccer BUT still causes problems for individuals AND might be a unfortunate curveball for some during this transition while perhaps helping others.

The same number of players are born first or born last no matter when the cutoff is defined if its always a 365 day window.

The benefit of 8/1-7/31 is no trapped players in 8th grade.

The problem with 8/1-7/31 is some August birthday players (depending on school district) can play down on a team with mostly players a grade below them in school.

Just to be fair...

The benefit of 1/1-12/31 is that the dates are complely seperate from school which means grade in School doesn't come into play. When you mix grade in school with teams you open the door to hold backs and regrades trying to play down for wins. "It's not fair my 16 year old freshman cant play on a team with kids in their grade." or "My kid is homeschooled so we'll just pick the grade team we think they should play on."

The 100% benefit of 8-1 to 7-31 is no trapped players in 8th grade (huge win as that year is a lost year for players). The issue with people saying the problem with 8-1 to 7-31 is grade is wrong. It's still a 12-month window, it doesn't matter the grade ... just as you are saying it was a benefit of 1-1 to 12-31 which means grade in school doesn't come into play. what do you mean? half the teams were in one grade and half in the other - but it was a 12month so fine. but still grades are differnet. no differnet than 8-1 to 7-31 (less grade difference). noboby is playing down ... just like nobody was playing down in BY (even with grade differences). the complaining about playing down makes no sense in a 12-month period. they are not saying it is grade year.

I don't think the trapped season (it's not a year, btw), is a lost one. It wasn't ideal but sometimes it wasn't all that bad, either, where kids played with a new team and coach that helped their development WHICH, BTW, might have been leagues better than their 9th grade teammates if the HS experience wasn't great.

appreciate that, but there are some areas where HS is high level and now you have a kid either doing nothing structured with a team or is beating down on bad MS'ers. Everything in the US revolves around school year so it makes sense to align.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Changing from BY to SY trades 3 months of players playing up a grade for 1 month of players playing down a grade.

Which option do you think will result in better players?

Which option do you think will result in more money for clubs?

It's more than the baked-in misalignments, tho. All the cases on one team I am aware of (3) are parents who either redshirted OR the reverse (which still happens even though no longer the IT thing to do like it was back in the 80s and 90s).

I think globally the change is good for youth soccer BUT still causes problems for individuals AND might be a unfortunate curveball for some during this transition while perhaps helping others.

The same number of players are born first or born last no matter when the cutoff is defined if its always a 365 day window.

The benefit of 8/1-7/31 is no trapped players in 8th grade.

The problem with 8/1-7/31 is some August birthday players (depending on school district) can play down on a team with mostly players a grade below them in school.

Just to be fair...

The benefit of 1/1-12/31 is that the dates are complely seperate from school which means grade in School doesn't come into play. When you mix grade in school with teams you open the door to hold backs and regrades trying to play down for wins. "It's not fair my 16 year old freshman cant play on a team with kids in their grade." or "My kid is homeschooled so we'll just pick the grade team we think they should play on."

The 100% benefit of 8-1 to 7-31 is no trapped players in 8th grade (huge win as that year is a lost year for players). The issue with people saying the problem with 8-1 to 7-31 is grade is wrong. It's still a 12-month window, it doesn't matter the grade ... just as you are saying it was a benefit of 1-1 to 12-31 which means grade in school doesn't come into play. what do you mean? half the teams were in one grade and half in the other - but it was a 12month so fine. but still grades are differnet. no differnet than 8-1 to 7-31 (less grade difference). noboby is playing down ... just like nobody was playing down in BY (even with grade differences). the complaining about playing down makes no sense in a 12-month period. they are not saying it is grade year.

You are mixing statements and not being honest.

SY = Seasonal Year not School Year. GA was very clear about this in their statement. And yes its 100% correct statement that under BY 3 months of players are playing up with a grade in school above them. It's also 100% correct that 1 month of players can play down with a grade below them in school SY.

I would think that most clubs wont let players play down even when they can. This is because it causes more problems than it solves when players get older and recruited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Many examples? You’re a loser. The vast majority 95% at least kids Jan to July are in the higher grade then Aug-Dec.

ECNL already address RAE and no matter how you break up a one year calendar there will be younger kids who just have a tougher time on average competing with older kids.

The move to SY makes sense because at the entry level they keep kids together and as those kids progress we are keeping more kids wanting to play.

On one high-level team I am aware of, it affects 17% of the players. It sorta underscores WHO plays youth soccer -- those who can afford it who rightfully try to align their kid to the correct grade when starting and have the resources to do so.

I'll add some more anecdotal data to the fire. High end club on the east coast 2013 - 5/40 are 8/1-12/31 right now between NL/RL. If you don't think there will be changes, I don't know what to tell you.

So 5 spots for 35 kids to fight over.... That should be fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Changing from BY to SY trades 3 months of players playing up a grade for 1 month of players playing down a grade.

Which option do you think will result in better players?

Which option do you think will result in more money for clubs?

It's more than the baked-in misalignments, tho. All the cases on one team I am aware of (3) are parents who either redshirted OR the reverse (which still happens even though no longer the IT thing to do like it was back in the 80s and 90s).

I think globally the change is good for youth soccer BUT still causes problems for individuals AND might be a unfortunate curveball for some during this transition while perhaps helping others.

The same number of players are born first or born last no matter when the cutoff is defined if its always a 365 day window.

The benefit of 8/1-7/31 is no trapped players in 8th grade.

The problem with 8/1-7/31 is some August birthday players (depending on school district) can play down on a team with mostly players a grade below them in school.

Just to be fair...

The benefit of 1/1-12/31 is that the dates are complely seperate from school which means grade in School doesn't come into play. When you mix grade in school with teams you open the door to hold backs and regrades trying to play down for wins. "It's not fair my 16 year old freshman cant play on a team with kids in their grade." or "My kid is homeschooled so we'll just pick the grade team we think they should play on."

Sorry, but you reduce BUT not eliminate 8th-grade trapped kids. This is because of grade misalignment, because states are different OR if parents don't have the kid in the grade most do.

Nope...

BY = 3 months of "misaligned" players playing up a year

SY = 1 month of "misaligned" players playing down a grade

Both are a 365 day window so regrades and holdbacks arent considered. Sorry. cheat somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Many examples? You’re a loser. The vast majority 95% at least kids Jan to July are in the higher grade then Aug-Dec.

ECNL already address RAE and no matter how you break up a one year calendar there will be younger kids who just have a tougher time on average competing with older kids.

The move to SY makes sense because at the entry level they keep kids together and as those kids progress we are keeping more kids wanting to play.

On one high-level team I am aware of, it affects 17% of the players. It sorta underscores WHO plays youth soccer -- those who can afford it who rightfully try to align their kid to the correct grade when starting and have the resources to do so.

I'll add some more anecdotal data to the fire. High end club on the east coast 2013 - 5/40 are 8/1-12/31 right now between NL/RL. If you don't think there will be changes, I don't know what to tell you.

So 5 spots for 35 kids to fight over.... That should be fun.

You are assuming the trapped players on the BY team arent the best ones.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BY guy is excited to be able to play that last year as a cheat...then next year BY guy can't cheat anymore. No more playing against players in a younger grade for the Jan to July kids. such cheaters they have been the last few years.

This thinking is so off. I've personally seen many examples where a Aug-Dec kid is in the HIGHER grade OR where a Jan-July is in the LOWER grade. These decisions, BTW, had to do with maturity and academics, not sports. This shift doesn't help any of them and underscores how grade is less of a factor than people believe and kids playing against other grades will continue.

Many examples? You’re a loser. The vast majority 95% at least kids Jan to July are in the higher grade then Aug-Dec.

ECNL already address RAE and no matter how you break up a one year calendar there will be younger kids who just have a tougher time on average competing with older kids.

The move to SY makes sense because at the entry level they keep kids together and as those kids progress we are keeping more kids wanting to play.

On one high-level team I am aware of, it affects 17% of the players. It sorta underscores WHO plays youth soccer -- those who can afford it who rightfully try to align their kid to the correct grade when starting and have the resources to do so.

I'll add some more anecdotal data to the fire. High end club on the east coast 2013 - 5/40 are 8/1-12/31 right now between NL/RL. If you don't think there will be changes, I don't know what to tell you.

So 5 spots for 35 kids to fight over.... That should be fun.

You are assuming the trapped players on the BY team arent the best ones.

someone gets it - but this is why the change is also necessary. Those kids who made it through the filter are really talented. Also a heads up to any 1/1 parents - you'll soon see why being the oldest was quite an advantage