Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

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Anonymous wrote:Secret society of top players and parents = Attending Next star soccer group training


Next Star is the opposite of secret.


Next Star is the opposite of society


NextStar is just like most other private trainings in the area BUT what makes them really different is the ridiculous fees they charge for watching the kids do basic drills, scrimmage and run hills or around the track (and calling that elite training). You pay for the collection of other good kids that are there from time to time and that's it really. If the market will take it, charge them I guess but have some respect. But if you do some due diligence on private trainers from around the world, some of whom have played at levels that the coaches at nextstar have only dreamt of, and research what they charge, you will realize quickly that NextStar is a straight up rip off. No other way to look at it. 200 dollars an hour for a private lesson is absolutely absurd. This is soccer we are talking about...


Honestly, I don’t think people are paying for the training (there are many coaches/trainers who can do the same), but for feedback and insights on what it takes for a kid to play competitively, and perhaps some positive feedback that their kid has potential? I don’t think that’s worth $200 an hour for the u-little stages.

But they have trained many who have gone on to do well so I think they do have some valuable knowledge. But the best feedback are always the unsolicited ones, not the $200/hour kind.

We like NextStar bc their trainings are everyday practically so it’s always there when DS wants to do small group training and he likes the coaches.


Take strong players from a few prominent clubs to any private group training and the trainer looks great

$200/hr is larceny
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This secret society topic is very real and fascinating, though it’s not secret at all. It’s a society of top players from the 2016, 2015, 2014, and 2013 age groups, all of whom play for 4–5 different clubs during the regular season but train together year-round in programs like FC Training Grounds, False 8, and Next Star. They spend summers competing together on tournament teams at events such as Copa Talento, Copa Alianza, and others. In the winter, they play for futsal teams like Ballers Elite, Dynamo, and In10sity. These players and their families are friends both on and off the court, regardless of which club they’re playing for, and they share a common trait: they don’t care about their clubs or the traditional “system.” They prioritize what’s best for their kids, taking the time to research and find the best opportunities for them.

This “Society” is real, and it poses a genuine threat to clubs like BSCs, SYCs, Arlington, and others. It’s why more clubs are imposing rules to prevent kids from playing outside their systems.

The Society exists. If you’re unaware of it, it’s because you’re not part of it, either because your kid is not good enough, or because you are too blind, lazy, or just part of the establishment.


or you don't have FOMO and choose not to follow the hype herd
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This secret society topic is very real and fascinating, though it’s not secret at all. It’s a society of top players from the 2016, 2015, 2014, and 2013 age groups, all of whom play for 4–5 different clubs during the regular season but train together year-round in programs like FC Training Grounds, False 8, and Next Star. They spend summers competing together on tournament teams at events such as Copa Talento, Copa Alianza, and others. In the winter, they play for futsal teams like Ballers Elite, Dynamo, and In10sity. These players and their families are friends both on and off the court, regardless of which club they’re playing for, and they share a common trait: they don’t care about their clubs or the traditional “system.” They prioritize what’s best for their kids, taking the time to research and find the best opportunities for them.

This “Society” is real, and it poses a genuine threat to clubs like BSCs, SYCs, Arlington, and others. It’s why more clubs are imposing rules to prevent kids from playing outside their systems.

The Society exists. If you’re unaware of it, it’s because you’re not part of it, either because your kid is not good enough, or because you are too blind, lazy, or just part of the establishment.


Most parents of serious players in the age groups you mentioned are well aware of who those kids are, but the problem with how you have put this “society” on a pedestal is that lots of those players are not “top” by any stretch of the imagination.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This secret society topic is very real and fascinating, though it’s not secret at all. It’s a society of top players from the 2016, 2015, 2014, and 2013 age groups, all of whom play for 4–5 different clubs during the regular season but train together year-round in programs like FC Training Grounds, False 8, and Next Star. They spend summers competing together on tournament teams at events such as Copa Talento, Copa Alianza, and others. In the winter, they play for futsal teams like Ballers Elite, Dynamo, and In10sity. These players and their families are friends both on and off the court, regardless of which club they’re playing for, and they share a common trait: they don’t care about their clubs or the traditional “system.” They prioritize what’s best for their kids, taking the time to research and find the best opportunities for them.

This “Society” is real, and it poses a genuine threat to clubs like BSCs, SYCs, Arlington, and others. It’s why more clubs are imposing rules to prevent kids from playing outside their systems.

The Society exists. If you’re unaware of it, it’s because you’re not part of it, either because your kid is not good enough, or because you are too blind, lazy, or just part of the establishment.


Most parents of serious players in the age groups you mentioned are well aware of who those kids are, but the problem with how you have put this “society” on a pedestal is that lots of those players are not “top” by any stretch of the imagination.


Is this a joke? We talking about U10 etc kids as top anything?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This secret society topic is very real and fascinating, though it’s not secret at all. It’s a society of top players from the 2016, 2015, 2014, and 2013 age groups, all of whom play for 4–5 different clubs during the regular season but train together year-round in programs like FC Training Grounds, False 8, and Next Star. They spend summers competing together on tournament teams at events such as Copa Talento, Copa Alianza, and others. In the winter, they play for futsal teams like Ballers Elite, Dynamo, and In10sity. These players and their families are friends both on and off the court, regardless of which club they’re playing for, and they share a common trait: they don’t care about their clubs or the traditional “system.” They prioritize what’s best for their kids, taking the time to research and find the best opportunities for them.

This “Society” is real, and it poses a genuine threat to clubs like BSCs, SYCs, Arlington, and others. It’s why more clubs are imposing rules to prevent kids from playing outside their systems.

The Society exists. If you’re unaware of it, it’s because you’re not part of it, either because your kid is not good enough, or because you are too blind, lazy, or just part of the establishment.


This is so true and accurate. I would say though that it is not a “society”. It’s just something that happens naturally. Best players tend to surround themselves with other top players and parents realize that and find ways to have them play and train together.
Anonymous
lol. Based on the description of this “society,” we are apparently part of it without realizing it (DS was invited to some of the activities “society” members do by a few people (who I didn’t think were connected but apparently they are members of this society?).

I will say we do care about our club a great deal, I think it’s important to be at a club that maximizes your kids potential as well has the right coaching for your kids needs and playing time!

And second, of course most of these kids aren’t “top” kids… yet, but they are being taught the skills and discipline needed to become a top player. For sure at least, many of the kids who are top or best players on their local youth clubs are part of this “society” so it can also be a reality check for some of these kids to see up close how good some of the top players are.

But seriously, you don’t need to be part of this society for your kid to become a top player.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Secret society of top players and parents = Attending Next star soccer group training


Next Star is the opposite of secret.


Next Star is the opposite of society


NextStar is just like most other private trainings in the area BUT what makes them really different is the ridiculous fees they charge for watching the kids do basic drills, scrimmage and run hills or around the track (and calling that elite training). You pay for the collection of other good kids that are there from time to time and that's it really. If the market will take it, charge them I guess but have some respect. But if you do some due diligence on private trainers from around the world, some of whom have played at levels that the coaches at nextstar have only dreamt of, and research what they charge, you will realize quickly that NextStar is a straight up rip off. No other way to look at it. 200 dollars an hour for a private lesson is absolutely absurd. This is soccer we are talking about...


Honestly, I don’t think people are paying for the training (there are many coaches/trainers who can do the same), but for feedback and insights on what it takes for a kid to play competitively, and perhaps some positive feedback that their kid has potential? I don’t think that’s worth $200 an hour for the u-little stages.

But they have trained many who have gone on to do well so I think they do have some valuable knowledge. But the best feedback are always the unsolicited ones, not the $200/hour kind.

We like NextStar bc their trainings are everyday practically so it’s always there when DS wants to do small group training and he likes the coaches.


Take strong players from a few prominent clubs to any private group training and the trainer looks great

$200/hr is larceny


Agree but parents pay it like the PP. Ask those top players that have been through NextStar how critical it was in their development. I would gamble large amounts that none of them would say it was a critical element of how they became the players they are or were. A part of development, maybe. The most important, no way.

NextStar is a good maintenance platform when out of season or looking for extra touches but pure instruction and guidance, not so much. It is a tool in the tool kit that can be used but what most of the parents that use NextStar don't understand is that it will not make your kid special alone. The grinding cannot be avoided and this is what most rich kids that go to NextStar aren't willing to do and NextStar preys on that.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This secret society topic is very real and fascinating, though it’s not secret at all. It’s a society of top players from the 2016, 2015, 2014, and 2013 age groups, all of whom play for 4–5 different clubs during the regular season but train together year-round in programs like FC Training Grounds, False 8, and Next Star. They spend summers competing together on tournament teams at events such as Copa Talento, Copa Alianza, and others. In the winter, they play for futsal teams like Ballers Elite, Dynamo, and In10sity. These players and their families are friends both on and off the court, regardless of which club they’re playing for, and they share a common trait: they don’t care about their clubs or the traditional “system.” They prioritize what’s best for their kids, taking the time to research and find the best opportunities for them.

This “Society” is real, and it poses a genuine threat to clubs like BSCs, SYCs, Arlington, and others. It’s why more clubs are imposing rules to prevent kids from playing outside their systems.

The Society exists. If you’re unaware of it, it’s because you’re not part of it, either because your kid is not good enough, or because you are too blind, lazy, or just part of the establishment.


Most parents of serious players in the age groups you mentioned are well aware of who those kids are, but the problem with how you have put this “society” on a pedestal is that lots of those players are not “top” by any stretch of the imagination.


Is this a joke? We talking about U10 etc kids as top anything?


Apparently lots of people on here are, yes.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This secret society topic is very real and fascinating, though it’s not secret at all. It’s a society of top players from the 2016, 2015, 2014, and 2013 age groups, all of whom play for 4–5 different clubs during the regular season but train together year-round in programs like FC Training Grounds, False 8, and Next Star. They spend summers competing together on tournament teams at events such as Copa Talento, Copa Alianza, and others. In the winter, they play for futsal teams like Ballers Elite, Dynamo, and In10sity. These players and their families are friends both on and off the court, regardless of which club they’re playing for, and they share a common trait: they don’t care about their clubs or the traditional “system.” They prioritize what’s best for their kids, taking the time to research and find the best opportunities for them.

This “Society” is real, and it poses a genuine threat to clubs like BSCs, SYCs, Arlington, and others. It’s why more clubs are imposing rules to prevent kids from playing outside their systems.

The Society exists. If you’re unaware of it, it’s because you’re not part of it, either because your kid is not good enough, or because you are too blind, lazy, or just part of the establishment.


or you don't have FOMO and choose not to follow the hype herd


This.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This secret society topic is very real and fascinating, though it’s not secret at all. It’s a society of top players from the 2016, 2015, 2014, and 2013 age groups, all of whom play for 4–5 different clubs during the regular season but train together year-round in programs like FC Training Grounds, False 8, and Next Star. They spend summers competing together on tournament teams at events such as Copa Talento, Copa Alianza, and others. In the winter, they play for futsal teams like Ballers Elite, Dynamo, and In10sity. These players and their families are friends both on and off the court, regardless of which club they’re playing for, and they share a common trait: they don’t care about their clubs or the traditional “system.” They prioritize what’s best for their kids, taking the time to research and find the best opportunities for them.

This “Society” is real, and it poses a genuine threat to clubs like BSCs, SYCs, Arlington, and others. It’s why more clubs are imposing rules to prevent kids from playing outside their systems.

The Society exists. If you’re unaware of it, it’s because you’re not part of it, either because your kid is not good enough, or because you are too blind, lazy, or just part of the establishment.


Most parents of serious players in the age groups you mentioned are well aware of who those kids are, but the problem with how you have put this “society” on a pedestal is that lots of those players are not “top” by any stretch of the imagination.


Is this a joke? We talking about U10 etc kids as top anything?


Everyone is delusional in the DMV area. And it is a big problem. Whoever plays for a pay to play organization/ club think they are a “Top” player. While in reality, these clubs are rigged and sometimes you don’t even have to be good to make their top team. You just need to know the coach or have some influence/money and the kid will be in the 1st team. Given these kids are innocent, they obviously think they are top with big Egos. Then the reality hits when they play tough teams elsewhere. Now you know why the DMV teams will never win a Natty.
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