Fairfax County Double Murder

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They need to offer the AP US citizenship. That will flip her. And it is reasonable offer for cooperating with a killer. We may not like her or the thought of this offer, but it is for greater good.

I really think it would help. Have had many APs including from Brazil. And her attorney would be a fool not to encourage her to take it.

The Commonwealth of Virginia has no ability to offer that. And I'm pretty sure there's not a visa/citizenship category for flipping on your would be co-defendant in a state murder trial. Plus, an inducement like that wouldn't help the case against Banfield. Any plea the AP cute will be fair game for BB's defense attorney.

He is a federal law enforcement. A dirty cop. The feds can help if they wanted to help.

IRS enforcement. Implied to people he was FBI. Why would anyone help him? He's a loser killer from LI, what would be in it for them?

[Anonymous]

Why/how would CB be naked?? Do we think BB or AP drugged her?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why/how would CB be naked?? Do we think BB or AP drugged her?

She was in the shower getting ready for the day?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why/how would CB be naked?? Do we think BB or AP drugged her?

Maybe she slept that way?

Without lab results, who knows? Would have likely made things easier if they did. Remember, BB's birthday was the day/night before, maybe he slipped something into a "celebration."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have so many questions about the second gun and the need for the AP to use it...

*Why would BB, a trained LEO with a service weapon on him which he had already used once, need assistance from his employee to access a second gun and finish off the "intruder" when he could have easily done that himself? What possible reason could he have thought up to give authorities for the need for assistance from the AP?

*Obviously, having the AP shoot the second gun was part of BB's plan, but how was BB planning to explain to authorities why his employee knew the location of the gun, the combination of the safe, and how to use the gun? It can't be common practice for households that employ au pairs and have gun safes with guns in them to instruct the au pair on how to access and use the gun. You might instruct them on how to use an alarm system or dial 911 but teach them how to access a gun? Doesn't make sense.

*It seems like BB wanted the AP to be complicit in the shooting, which is why he took her to the gun range to train her on how to use the gun, subsequently purchased a gun for her to use, told her how to access it, and then told her to use it on Joe. But what convoluted reason could he have possibly given her for why she needed to do that in the first place? Was he thinking it would somehow make him personally less culpable if there was a second shooter?

Make it make sense!

I have had the same questions. If they thought Ryan was still a threat even after being shot/ blinded, why did they take the time for her to go to the safe get the code to open the safe, retrieve the gun and shoot it instead of him just shooting again. It just doesn’t make sense.

I'm starting to think that Banfield set this up for Magalhes to carry out on her own, but on the morning of she chickened out and that's why you have this string of events that don't make sense.

That would explain a lot of things. It's an interesting theory. But they'd still have to explain the visits to the gun range to practice how to shoot a gun, how she knew the location of the gun and the gun safe combination, and how to handle the gun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have so many questions about the second gun and the need for the AP to use it...

*Why would BB, a trained LEO with a service weapon on him which he had already used once, need assistance from his employee to access a second gun and finish off the "intruder" when he could have easily done that himself? What possible reason could he have thought up to give authorities for the need for assistance from the AP?

*Obviously, having the AP shoot the second gun was part of BB's plan, but how was BB planning to explain to authorities why his employee knew the location of the gun, the combination of the safe, and how to use the gun? It can't be common practice for households that employ au pairs and have gun safes with guns in them to instruct the au pair on how to access and use the gun. You might instruct them on how to use an alarm system or dial 911 but teach them how to access a gun? Doesn't make sense.

*It seems like BB wanted the AP to be complicit in the shooting, which is why he took her to the gun range to train her on how to use the gun, subsequently purchased a gun for her to use, told her how to access it, and then told her to use it on Joe. But what convoluted reason could he have possibly given her for why she needed to do that in the first place? Was he thinking it would somehow make him personally less culpable if there was a second shooter?

Make it make sense!

I have had the same questions. If they thought Ryan was still a threat even after being shot/ blinded, why did they take the time for her to go to the safe get the code to open the safe, retrieve the gun and shoot it instead of him just shooting again. It just doesn’t make sense.

I'm starting to think that Banfield set this up for Magalhes to carry out on her own, but on the morning of she chickened out and that's why you have this string of events that don't make sense.

That would explain a lot of things. It's an interesting theory. But they'd still have to explain the visits to the gun range to practice how to shoot a gun, how she knew the location of the gun and the gun safe combination, and how to handle the gun.

I agree with half of this - guns are so ubiquitous in US society I think you could plausibly argue that evidence of going to a gun range doesn't mean anything/isn't admissible. The gun being in the safe is harder to explain.

[Anonymous]

Also, if BB was trying to make it look like Joe stabbed CB, wouldn't Joe's fingerprints have to be on the knife? Somebody's fingerprints have to be on that knife. Even if BB wiped them off, how was he planning to tie the knife to Joe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have so many questions about the second gun and the need for the AP to use it...

*Why would BB, a trained LEO with a service weapon on him which he had already used once, need assistance from his employee to access a second gun and finish off the "intruder" when he could have easily done that himself? What possible reason could he have thought up to give authorities for the need for assistance from the AP?

*Obviously, having the AP shoot the second gun was part of BB's plan, but how was BB planning to explain to authorities why his employee knew the location of the gun, the combination of the safe, and how to use the gun? It can't be common practice for households that employ au pairs and have gun safes with guns in them to instruct the au pair on how to access and use the gun. You might instruct them on how to use an alarm system or dial 911 but teach them how to access a gun? Doesn't make sense.

*It seems like BB wanted the AP to be complicit in the shooting, which is why he took her to the gun range to train her on how to use the gun, subsequently purchased a gun for her to use, told her how to access it, and then told her to use it on Joe. But what convoluted reason could he have possibly given her for why she needed to do that in the first place? Was he thinking it would somehow make him personally less culpable if there was a second shooter?

Make it make sense!

I have had the same questions. If they thought Ryan was still a threat even after being shot/ blinded, why did they take the time for her to go to the safe get the code to open the safe, retrieve the gun and shoot it instead of him just shooting again. It just doesn’t make sense.

I'm starting to think that Banfield set this up for Magalhes to carry out on her own, but on the morning of she chickened out and that's why you have this string of events that don't make sense.

That would explain a lot of things. It's an interesting theory. But they'd still have to explain the visits to the gun range to practice how to shoot a gun, how she knew the location of the gun and the gun safe combination, and how to handle the gun.

I agree with half of this - guns are so ubiquitous in US society I think you could plausibly argue that evidence of going to a gun range doesn't mean anything/isn't admissible. The gun being in the safe is harder to explain.

Taking your au pair to the gun range twice is very unusual. It would certainly raise a red flag for anyone.

[Anonymous]

NBC does a chilling writeup
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/twisted-fetish-sex-plot-left-wife-and-a-stranger-dead-inside-herndon-home-prosecutors-allege/3580961/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why/how would CB be naked?? Do we think BB or AP drugged her?

Nah, they would have found that in the autopsy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NBC does a chilling writeup
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/twisted-fetish-sex-plot-left-wife-and-a-stranger-dead-inside-herndon-home-prosecutors-allege/3580961/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand

"Detectives found a profile for Christine and communications between her profile and Ryan. But authorities said something didn't add up. They said the way Christine talked to Ryan in their messages was very different than how friends and family described her. Police believe someone else was communicating with Ryan while pretending to be Christine — setting a meetup at the family's home for that day."

[Anonymous]

Gross- their bedside table - the bed where Christine was killed!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why/how would CB be naked?? Do we think BB or AP drugged her?

Nah, they would have found that in the autopsy.

The case against AP focuses on JR and the shooting.

[Anonymous]

Last fall, the LE spokesperson alleged that JR was shot by AP when BB was out of the house. That would be a VERY different scenario than the one laid out by AP's lawyer. For anyone in the court today, did that come up? @2:40ish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR0xKBVh-08&t=3s

Wonder if a shot may have been captured on a Ring while BB's car was captured still travelling back to house or something like that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why/how would CB be naked?? Do we think BB or AP drugged her?

Nah, they would have found that in the autopsy.

The case against AP focuses on JR and the shooting.

So what. Question was re CB.