Valor

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Anonymous wrote:Even worse, Valor uses the parent coaches for the weakest teams. They don't care about their lower level players, its just revenue producing widgets to them.

So its like a bad rec team, with a bad rec coach, but for a travel price.

OK ... practices are better than Rec. But traveling 4 hours to watch the coaches daughter get yelled at and play the whole game is certainty not what I signed my daughter up for. She's at the point where she doesn't want to waste her time going to games, especially when she has other things she could be doing.

Did this parent have any professional coaching experience?
I'm baffled by this whole situation. I assume Valor is paying this parent coach the same rate they pay their real coaches.

So compared to rec----you are basically paying $2800 more than rec soccer for one extra practice a week. Run by a know-nothing parent coach.

No professional coaching experience that I am aware of. Valor does occasionally have people walking around monitoring the practices. I think there is some thought and preparation and effort that is going into the practices. So it's not a total loss. It's the games where the favortism and tone and inability to coach really is amplified.

Good to know we are not the only parents who feel this way. Our daughter is on this team as well and I can’t disagree with what I’ve read here regarding the Coach. Last season we saw the growth not just in our daughter but the entire team. Parents were way more into it than now and the team was fun and exciting to watch with lots of close tourney matches where they won and lost. It is a completely different vibe and tone all around from last season.

Is this the lowest 2011 girls team?

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Anonymous wrote:Even worse, Valor uses the parent coaches for the weakest teams. They don't care about their lower level players, its just revenue producing widgets to them.

So its like a bad rec team, with a bad rec coach, but for a travel price.

OK ... practices are better than Rec. But traveling 4 hours to watch the coaches daughter get yelled at and play the whole game is certainty not what I signed my daughter up for. She's at the point where she doesn't want to waste her time going to games, especially when she has other things she could be doing.

Did this parent have any professional coaching experience?
I'm baffled by this whole situation. I assume Valor is paying this parent coach the same rate they pay their real coaches.

So compared to rec----you are basically paying $2800 more than rec soccer for one extra practice a week. Run by a know-nothing parent coach.

No professional coaching experience that I am aware of. Valor does occasionally have people walking around monitoring the practices. I think there is some thought and preparation and effort that is going into the practices. So it's not a total loss. It's the games where the favortism and tone and inability to coach really is amplified.

Good to know we are not the only parents who feel this way. Our daughter is on this team as well and I can’t disagree with what I’ve read here regarding the Coach. Last season we saw the growth not just in our daughter but the entire team. Parents were way more into it than now and the team was fun and exciting to watch with lots of close tourney matches where they won and lost. It is a completely different vibe and tone all around from last season.[/quote

So basically the same team as last year with a few new players, but they switched from a real coach to a parent coach?

5 from one team a few from another and 5 new to Valor. But went from a coach to a parent coach.

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Its really fraudulent to not tell people their team is getting a parent coach before they commit for the season. Most would choose elsewhere.

The good news is that i know for a fact that Valor sleazeballs obsessively check this thread for their names so maybe something will be done (doubtful, since they already have your money, but maybe a shred of integrity is left somewhere in Valor's fancy offices that you are paying for).

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How many parent coaches does Valor have?
Usually when club soccer has a parent coach, its a completely different category of team, the parent is unpaid, and the team fees are 1/3rd the cost.

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Anonymous wrote:Awful coaches with child on the team. Verbally abusive to child, but at least they play the whole game.

So you have a coach you think is awful who also has their own child on the team who also verbally abuses the player and they play the whole game?

Wait, what?
Did they charge you $3000 for a team coached by a parent?

Yes ... it's not going well.

OMG, Valor is ridiculous. You shouldn't pay the same price for a crappy parent coach as you do for a professional coach.
Did they tell you it would be a parent coach when they offered your player a spot on the team?

No

Wow…that’s laughable. I’m not surprised at all. Valors a joke, they play in tournaments against low level teams so they can market wins. The parents love it and buy into that crap. The kids overall development suffers. The strategy is complete garbage. A parent coach…on brand and typical for this club. My kid left long ago. His friends/the parents decided to stay are 4 divisions lower. Lots of nepotism, its pay to play and wait in line. In the past three seasons, I would say about 70% of the parents, their kid has yet to progress or advance to the next division. Good luck with that.

And your kid will end up right where his friends are. Playing his last game in May and headed off the college that fall. His friends stayed together and had a blast while your kid was elite until he wasn't.

What happens is once kids on these "non-elite" teams get to high school, the teams start to fall apart as kids lose interest. Especially when they don't make the JV team as freshman. Huge dropoff in kids coming back in 10th. So, no, the "friends" don't stay together and have a blast. They slowly quit and their team gets consolidated multiple times.

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Anonymous wrote:Its really fraudulent to not tell people their team is getting a parent coach before they commit for the season. Most would choose elsewhere.

The good news is that i know for a fact that Valor sleazeballs obsessively check this thread for their names so maybe something will be done (doubtful, since they already have your money, but maybe a shred of integrity is left somewhere in Valor's fancy offices that you are paying for).

I remember being aghast during tryout season when Valor posted their "coaching list" and almost all of their 3rd-4th-5th teams did not have any coach listed. They couldn't be bothered to even try and hire people for those teams. Then parents kept posting on here that they got an offer for "Valor Black" or whatever but there had been no coach for that team at tryout. Expecting families to commit 3k to play on a team when Valor couldn't be bothered to hire a coach is completely unreasonable. Valor waiting to hire coaches for these low teams until every other club already hired all the warm bodies and then scraping up the parents at the bottom of the barrel is just pathetic. They showed they CAN hire coaches ahead of time, they just chose not to because they have contempt for the kids and parents on those teams and just think of you as dumb wallets.

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Anonymous wrote:Its really fraudulent to not tell people their team is getting a parent coach before they commit for the season. Most would choose elsewhere.

The good news is that i know for a fact that Valor sleazeballs obsessively check this thread for their names so maybe something will be done (doubtful, since they already have your money, but maybe a shred of integrity is left somewhere in Valor's fancy offices that you are paying for).

Well then I've already outed myself because I've brought this up. My kid will probably be retaliated against and will stop going to games. Not many options at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:How many parent coaches does Valor have?
Usually when club soccer has a parent coach, its a completely different category of team, the parent is unpaid, and the team fees are 1/3rd the cost.

The 4th 2012 boys team is a parent coach. He coached CYA all stars and then pitched himself as a coach to Valor.

The 3rd 2009 boys coach is a parent coach. They combined that team with the weakest 2010s, its real bad. They are playing in the fifth/lowest NCSL division and lost a game like 14-1. Their practice looks like a rec team practicing.

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Anonymous wrote:Its really fraudulent to not tell people their team is getting a parent coach before they commit for the season. Most would choose elsewhere.

The good news is that i know for a fact that Valor sleazeballs obsessively check this thread for their names so maybe something will be done (doubtful, since they already have your money, but maybe a shred of integrity is left somewhere in Valor's fancy offices that you are paying for).

Well then I've already outed myself because I've brought this up. My kid will probably be retaliated against and will stop going to games. Not many options at this point.

How would they know its you? Probably most of the parents on the team are unhappy.
NO ONE wants a parent coach.

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Anonymous wrote:Its really fraudulent to not tell people their team is getting a parent coach before they commit for the season. Most would choose elsewhere.

The good news is that i know for a fact that Valor sleazeballs obsessively check this thread for their names so maybe something will be done (doubtful, since they already have your money, but maybe a shred of integrity is left somewhere in Valor's fancy offices that you are paying for).

Well then I've already outed myself because I've brought this up. My kid will probably be retaliated against and will stop going to games. Not many options at this point.

How would they know its you? Probably most of the parents on the team are unhappy.
NO ONE wants a parent coach.

Because I'm the one speaking up about it to the coach and above.... i really hope others will join me.

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Anonymous wrote:Its really fraudulent to not tell people their team is getting a parent coach before they commit for the season. Most would choose elsewhere.

The good news is that i know for a fact that Valor sleazeballs obsessively check this thread for their names so maybe something will be done (doubtful, since they already have your money, but maybe a shred of integrity is left somewhere in Valor's fancy offices that you are paying for).

Last year the valor sleazeballs put our entire team in an office and allowed a piece of trash coach to talk to us as if we were kids that got in trouble. While I am not 100% sure I certainly think this is one of the reasons we had so many girls leave. Now they did actually give us a coach that is present now but the years of zero training is catching up with them.

Valor will never be more than an expensive rec league. Which works for some but if you think these higher ups care about what parents think you are delusional. They do not care at all. All they care about is MONEY and having 4-5 teams per age group is a pure money grab for them and they know it.

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A trashy coach was lecturing parents? About what?

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Anonymous wrote:Its really fraudulent to not tell people their team is getting a parent coach before they commit for the season. Most would choose elsewhere.

The good news is that i know for a fact that Valor sleazeballs obsessively check this thread for their names so maybe something will be done (doubtful, since they already have your money, but maybe a shred of integrity is left somewhere in Valor's fancy offices that you are paying for).

Well then I've already outed myself because I've brought this up. My kid will probably be retaliated against and will stop going to games. Not many options at this point.

How would they know its you? Probably most of the parents on the team are unhappy.
NO ONE wants a parent coach.

Because I'm the one speaking up about it to the coach and above.... i really hope others will join me.

There is no way you are the only parent complaining about this bait and switch team situation and this unhinged daddyball coach.

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Anonymous wrote:How many parent coaches does Valor have?
Usually when club soccer has a parent coach, its a completely different category of team, the parent is unpaid, and the team fees are 1/3rd the cost.

The 4th 2012 boys team is a parent coach. He coached CYA all stars and then pitched himself as a coach to Valor.

The 3rd 2009 boys coach is a parent coach. They combined that team with the weakest 2010s, its real bad. They are playing in the fifth/lowest NCSL division and lost a game like 14-1. Their practice looks like a rec team practicing.

A club team losing games 14-1 in the lowest division of the lowest league is a team that should be playing house league.

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Anonymous wrote:Its really fraudulent to not tell people their team is getting a parent coach before they commit for the season. Most would choose elsewhere.

The good news is that i know for a fact that Valor sleazeballs obsessively check this thread for their names so maybe something will be done (doubtful, since they already have your money, but maybe a shred of integrity is left somewhere in Valor's fancy offices that you are paying for).

Well then I've already outed myself because I've brought this up. My kid will probably be retaliated against and will stop going to games. Not many options at this point.

How would they know its you? Probably most of the parents on the team are unhappy.
NO ONE wants a parent coach.

Because I'm the one speaking up about it to the coach and above.... i really hope others will join me.

There is no way you are the only parent complaining about this bait and switch team situation and this unhinged daddyball coach.

They aren't unless the club has the same problem in multiple age groups. We just got back from Williamsburg and I could have written this exact thread of complaints.