FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

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Anonymous wrote:I have younger kids and I want them to stay Oakton and ideally move to Franklin so the split isn't as bad. My kids are involved in high level sports. They don't even have the facilities, let alone coaches or a promising future. My kids have been playing with and building relationships with Oakton slotted kids in multiple sports for the past 6 years. My kids have been going through the renovations at crossfield for the past 3 years. Oakton has finally finished their renovations. I don't want them to go right into a high school that will be doing renovations the whole time they're there. Oakton is highly rated with excellent teachers. Western high School is unknown. Oakton has proven to be safe and secure school with little violence.

So what?!

Current and future Oakton sports parents are a big part of the opposition to moving. They’re a little nuts.

To be accurate, the vast majority of the Crossfield homes are Herndon addresses and much farther from Oakton than the new Western HS.

Correct. But they seem to think they should be immune to ever moving from Oakton. They will advocate for everyone else’s kids to be moved around so their don’t have to.

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Did I say it was data? I said "everyone I know with elementary-aged kids". I don't know anyone on the PTO Board, but haven't heard the greatest things about you and your friends, to be honest.

You said they were a "vocal minority"

I am a Xfield elementary parent and everyone I know wants to stay at Oakton. I am also not on the PTO board.

Well, this is exactly why I’m not ruling out Option B. These Oakton parents will fight really hard against being reassigned to KAA.

Speaking of Option B, it might be the cleanest solution. The entire Floris community would move to KAA, avoiding a split feeder.

They could also consider moving Oak Hill students to Carson and Crossfield students to Franklin, which means all Carson kids would be going to KAA (obviously Franklin needs to become an AAP center for this to happen).

But, it splits Fox Mill.
And, it still has FCPS putting kids on extremely long bus rides.

Option B does NOT split Fox Mill.

Bus rides is important but we are talking about Crossfield parents who would fight to stay DESPITE the long bus ride.

Again, Crossfield is VERY split on this issue. A lot of parents don't want the long bus ride and are excited about Western High. However, there is a vocal group of parents who want their younger kids to go to the same high school as their older kids. They are the ones you're hearing.

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Anonymous wrote:I have younger kids and I want them to stay Oakton and ideally move to Franklin so the split isn't as bad. My kids are involved in high level sports. They don't even have the facilities, let alone coaches or a promising future. My kids have been playing with and building relationships with Oakton slotted kids in multiple sports for the past 6 years. My kids have been going through the renovations at crossfield for the past 3 years. Oakton has finally finished their renovations. I don't want them to go right into a high school that will be doing renovations the whole time they're there. Oakton is highly rated with excellent teachers. Western high School is unknown. Oakton has proven to be safe and secure school with little violence.

So what?!

Current and future Oakton sports parents are a big part of the opposition to moving. They’re a little nuts.

To be accurate, the vast majority of the Crossfield homes are Herndon addresses and much farther from Oakton than the new Western HS.

Correct. But they seem to think they should be immune to ever moving from Oakton. They will advocate for everyone else’s kids to be moved around so their don’t have to.

Stop generalizing!! A lot of Crossfield parents want to be at the new high school.

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Did I say it was data? I said "everyone I know with elementary-aged kids". I don't know anyone on the PTO Board, but haven't heard the greatest things about you and your friends, to be honest.

You said they were a "vocal minority"

I am a Xfield elementary parent and everyone I know wants to stay at Oakton. I am also not on the PTO board.

Well, this is exactly why I’m not ruling out Option B. These Oakton parents will fight really hard against being reassigned to KAA.

Speaking of Option B, it might be the cleanest solution. The entire Floris community would move to KAA, avoiding a split feeder.

They could also consider moving Oak Hill students to Carson and Crossfield students to Franklin, which means all Carson kids would be going to KAA (obviously Franklin needs to become an AAP center for this to happen).

It's clear Oakton families have different views about being reassigned to the Western HS. I'm starting to think you're a South Lakes parent who is trying to suggest they shouldn't bother with options that would move the part of Crossfield that feeds to Oakton to the new school because you favor Option B.

the people that I know who want to stay at Oakton have older kids. The ones who want to go to KAA have younger kids. I see both POVs, and they should allow grandfathering with bussing for current 7-9

I don't see how they allow could grandfathering with bussing for current 7-9 grade students who might feed into Western HS later when they probably aren't going to provide transportation for grandfathered 10-12 grade students affected by other county-wide changes planned for the fall of 2026.

I'm also not sure what you mean by grandfathering for current 7-8 grade students. Grandfathering generally refers to letting a kid stay at their current school. A 7th grader in this part of the county is starting at a new middle school, so how could they be "grandfathered"? Also, are you talking about grandfathering a rising 8th grader at their current middle school, if middle school boundaries were also to change, or allowing a rising 8th grader to pick between Oakton and the Western HS when they get to high school a year later? When has FCPS done that before? They may have made a few exceptions where they allowed rising 9th graders to choose between two high schools affected by a boundary change, but that's about it.

There won't be any grandfathered 10-12 students. This school is opening 9/10 only. At the open house, Reid said current 7th - 9th students could choose their high school. She didn't say anything bout transportation though.

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Did I say it was data? I said "everyone I know with elementary-aged kids". I don't know anyone on the PTO Board, but haven't heard the greatest things about you and your friends, to be honest.

You said they were a "vocal minority"

I am a Xfield elementary parent and everyone I know wants to stay at Oakton. I am also not on the PTO board.

Well, this is exactly why I’m not ruling out Option B. These Oakton parents will fight really hard against being reassigned to KAA.

Speaking of Option B, it might be the cleanest solution. The entire Floris community would move to KAA, avoiding a split feeder.

They could also consider moving Oak Hill students to Carson and Crossfield students to Franklin, which means all Carson kids would be going to KAA (obviously Franklin needs to become an AAP center for this to happen).

It's clear Oakton families have different views about being reassigned to the Western HS. I'm starting to think you're a South Lakes parent who is trying to suggest they shouldn't bother with options that would move the part of Crossfield that feeds to Oakton to the new school because you favor Option B.

the people that I know who want to stay at Oakton have older kids. The ones who want to go to KAA have younger kids. I see both POVs, and they should allow grandfathering with bussing for current 7-9

Those parents of older kids who may prefer option B are really screwing over people with younger kids. Oakton HS will absolutely be over 105% at the next boundary review. There are literally thousands of multifamily and townhouse units going up in the next year or two within the Oakton boundary (Fairfax Ridge, AT&T site, Fair Oaks Business Site, Redwood Plaza, Flint Hill Office Park). If Crossfield doesn't become part of KAA now they will stuck moving to South Lakes in 2031. There won't be room anywhere else.

YES -- this is why almost everyone I know that has elementary-aged kids wants to move to the new high school. Literally the only people I know that want to stay at Oakton have high schoolers or 8th graders. Everyone 7 and under want to go to Western (unless their BFFs have convinced them otherwise, LOL)

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Anonymous wrote:I have younger kids and I want them to stay Oakton and ideally move to Franklin so the split isn't as bad. My kids are involved in high level sports. They don't even have the facilities, let alone coaches or a promising future. My kids have been playing with and building relationships with Oakton slotted kids in multiple sports for the past 6 years. My kids have been going through the renovations at crossfield for the past 3 years. Oakton has finally finished their renovations. I don't want them to go right into a high school that will be doing renovations the whole time they're there. Oakton is highly rated with excellent teachers. Western high School is unknown. Oakton has proven to be safe and secure school with little violence.

And there it is, folks. This PP doesn't want her kid in high school with hispanic kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I have younger kids and I want them to stay Oakton and ideally move to Franklin so the split isn't as bad. My kids are involved in high level sports. They don't even have the facilities, let alone coaches or a promising future. My kids have been playing with and building relationships with Oakton slotted kids in multiple sports for the past 6 years. My kids have been going through the renovations at crossfield for the past 3 years. Oakton has finally finished their renovations. I don't want them to go right into a high school that will be doing renovations the whole time they're there. Oakton is highly rated with excellent teachers. Western high School is unknown. Oakton has proven to be safe and secure school with little violence.

And there it is, folks. This PP doesn't want her kid in high school with hispanic kids.

Never mind that an Oakton boy murdered two hispanic girls a few years back. Let's not forget about that.

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Anonymous wrote:I have younger kids and I want them to stay Oakton and ideally move to Franklin so the split isn't as bad. My kids are involved in high level sports. They don't even have the facilities, let alone coaches or a promising future. My kids have been playing with and building relationships with Oakton slotted kids in multiple sports for the past 6 years. My kids have been going through the renovations at crossfield for the past 3 years. Oakton has finally finished their renovations. I don't want them to go right into a high school that will be doing renovations the whole time they're there. Oakton is highly rated with excellent teachers. Western high School is unknown. Oakton has proven to be safe and secure school with little violence.

And there it is, folks. This PP doesn't want her kid in high school with hispanic kids.

DP. What is really fascinating about your post is that it requires readers to buy your Rorschach test conclusion that only Hispanic kids are unsafe and violent.

Your post frankly says more about your own biases than the previous poster’s.

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Did I say it was data? I said "everyone I know with elementary-aged kids". I don't know anyone on the PTO Board, but haven't heard the greatest things about you and your friends, to be honest.

You said they were a "vocal minority"

I am a Xfield elementary parent and everyone I know wants to stay at Oakton. I am also not on the PTO board.

Well, this is exactly why I’m not ruling out Option B. These Oakton parents will fight really hard against being reassigned to KAA.

Speaking of Option B, it might be the cleanest solution. The entire Floris community would move to KAA, avoiding a split feeder.

They could also consider moving Oak Hill students to Carson and Crossfield students to Franklin, which means all Carson kids would be going to KAA (obviously Franklin needs to become an AAP center for this to happen).

It's clear Oakton families have different views about being reassigned to the Western HS. I'm starting to think you're a South Lakes parent who is trying to suggest they shouldn't bother with options that would move the part of Crossfield that feeds to Oakton to the new school because you favor Option B.

the people that I know who want to stay at Oakton have older kids. The ones who want to go to KAA have younger kids. I see both POVs, and they should allow grandfathering with bussing for current 7-9

I don't see how they allow could grandfathering with bussing for current 7-9 grade students who might feed into Western HS later when they probably aren't going to provide transportation for grandfathered 10-12 grade students affected by other county-wide changes planned for the fall of 2026.

I'm also not sure what you mean by grandfathering for current 7-8 grade students. Grandfathering generally refers to letting a kid stay at their current school. A 7th grader in this part of the county is starting at a new middle school, so how could they be "grandfathered"? Also, are you talking about grandfathering a rising 8th grader at their current middle school, if middle school boundaries were also to change, or allowing a rising 8th grader to pick between Oakton and the Western HS when they get to high school a year later? When has FCPS done that before? They may have made a few exceptions where they allowed rising 9th graders to choose between two high schools affected by a boundary change, but that's about it.

There won't be any grandfathered 10-12 students. This school is opening 9/10 only. At the open house, Reid said current 7th - 9th students could choose their high school. She didn't say anything bout transportation though.

The post to which you're responding specifically refers to grandfathered 10-12th grade students at other schools, not the Western HS.

Reid is going out on a limb here, but if they are going to open the Western HS in the fall of 2026, at the same time as other county-wide boundary changes are implemented, and grandfathered students at those other schools are not receiving transportation, you'd be pretty foolish to think FCPS is going to send multiple buses through the neighborhoods rezoned to the Western HS so current 7th graders can be bussed to either the Western HS or Oakton for four years.

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Anonymous wrote:I have younger kids and I want them to stay Oakton and ideally move to Franklin so the split isn't as bad. My kids are involved in high level sports. They don't even have the facilities, let alone coaches or a promising future. My kids have been playing with and building relationships with Oakton slotted kids in multiple sports for the past 6 years. My kids have been going through the renovations at crossfield for the past 3 years. Oakton has finally finished their renovations. I don't want them to go right into a high school that will be doing renovations the whole time they're there. Oakton is highly rated with excellent teachers. Western high School is unknown. Oakton has proven to be safe and secure school with little violence.

And there it is, folks. This PP doesn't want her kid in high school with hispanic kids.

You need to spend more time at some of those apartments off Blake Lane so you have a better understanding of their demographics.

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The School Board will decide. That is how this works at this point. Options have been proposed. There can be adjustments within these options, but it is doubtful there will be any additional areas considered or anything wildly different. It is now a matter of adjustments.

Honestly, I doubt it will be exactly like any of those proposed. It will likely be similar to one of them with some slight adjustments.

It is interesting to express opinions here and throw out ideas, but the decisions will be made by School Board members.

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Anonymous wrote:The School Board will decide. That is how this works at this point. Options have been proposed. There can be adjustments within these options, but it is doubtful there will be any additional areas considered or anything wildly different. It is now a matter of adjustments.

Honestly, I doubt it will be exactly like any of those proposed. It will likely be similar to one of them with some slight adjustments.

It is interesting to express opinions here and throw out ideas, but the decisions will be made by School Board members.

Some of them were pretty upset that the middle school start time thing was shelved for now. Reid said something about revisiting it once they have good data in how long bus runs take with some new software that the busses will have next year (or have this year?). It seems like minimizing transportation time is important to several of them because it saves money and maybe makes a later start time more feasible. I wonder if transportation cost is part of the analysis of the four options.

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I think anyone with kids that are looking to play D1 in college would prefer Oakton versus a new school just starting out so get the concern there. It's nice that they're allowing current MS to make that call where they want to go but hard when you have younger siblings who don't have that same decision and do you really want to split families up? Just hard all around.

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Anonymous wrote:I think anyone with kids that are looking to play D1 in college would prefer Oakton versus a new school just starting out so get the concern there. It's nice that they're allowing current MS to make that call where they want to go but hard when you have younger siblings who don't have that same decision and do you really want to split families up? Just hard all around.

It's actually quite ridiculous that they are thinking of giving current middle school students in 7th grade an option whether to attend KAA.

Usually when there's a boundary change or a new high school, neither rising nor current 9th graders get an option. It's one of the ways they get a new school off the ground or make sure a boundary change starts to provide some meaningful relief.

It means their model for opening the new western HS is flawed. It would make far more sense to wait another year, get KAA to the point where it can hold 1500 kids, start with 9th through 11th graders, grandfather only rising seniors, and offer varsity sports from the outset.

This superintendent and school board are utterly ridiculous. They want big change, but they promptly shy away from big change, and then they coddle everyone with a loud voice or a change.org petition. They are the very opposite of leaders.

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Anonymous wrote:I think anyone with kids that are looking to play D1 in college would prefer Oakton versus a new school just starting out so get the concern there. It's nice that they're allowing current MS to make that call where they want to go but hard when you have younger siblings who don't have that same decision and do you really want to split families up? Just hard all around.

It's actually quite ridiculous that they are thinking of giving current middle school students in 7th grade an option whether to attend KAA.

Usually when there's a boundary change or a new high school, neither rising nor current 9th graders get an option. It's one of the ways they get a new school off the ground or make sure a boundary change starts to provide some meaningful relief.

It means their model for opening the new western HS is flawed. It would make far more sense to wait another year, get KAA to the point where it can hold 1500 kids, start with 9th through 11th graders, grandfather only rising seniors, and offer varsity sports from the outset.

This superintendent and school board are utterly ridiculous. They want big change, but they promptly shy away from big change, and then they coddle everyone with a loud voice or a change.org petition. They are the very opposite of leaders.

Your definition of leader and my definition are very different. A better leader listens to stakeholders rather than jamming something down their throats. I hate the school board though because I don’t think they are really responsive to constituents.