CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

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[Anonymous]

Also a Canadian here, living in Ottawa. One person has tested positive so far in my city.

The testing situation seems good, with centers being set up and the ability to get results in six hours apparently. Our health care system could however be easily overloaded.

My aunt had a suspected brain aneurysm two days ago and has received excellent health care (flown into a larger centre surgery right away, recovering well), but I wonder how that situation would play out in a few weeks once the virus has spread.

I am frustrating the Federal Government isn't encouraging employees to work from home, that's a huge segment of our population working in tight quarters and taking public transit everyday. Employees are still being told it's a low risk situation. Private companies are doing a much better job encouraging people to work from home.

It's March Break here next week and our stupid Premiere just told everyone to enjoy their vacations. I predict schools will be closed when everyone gets back, or within a few days when it's clear how many people have been exposed. New Brunswick has already told anyone returning from March break to expect to stay home and self isolate for two weeks.

[Anonymous]

Fredericksburg City Public Schools will be closed through March 22

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ireland, which has 43 cases, is shutting down all schools and universities.

Their per capita rate is relatively low, especially for Europe, 8.7, but there is definitely a trend beginning for countries to avoid an Italy situation by taking non-pharmaceutical containment measures much more proactively.

The Irish health system is overloaded on daily basis. They can't afford to get to Italy's level. They have people in beds in hallways and closets on the regular. Smart move (although Leo Varadker announced it while on his St Patrick's trip to DC!)

Weird,they are ranked 13/195. https://www.newstalk.com/news/ireland-places-13th-in-global-healthcare-system-ranking-535281#:~:text=

this is from January:
https://www.thejournal.ie/hospital-system-under-pressure-4955866-Jan2020/

and it's an annual occurrence. They don't have the staff or the beds full stop. The quality of the staff is wonderful, they just don't have enough. The HSE is literally always trying to play catch up and cancelling procedures is not uncommon at all. They are right to close everything now before it gets out of hand.

I posted in the Italy thread, but there appears to be no correlation between the WHO rankings of the "quality" of health systems and number of critical care (ICU) beds per capita, which is what matters now. I've seen this discussed elsewhere, but Forbes has an article today with numbers, and the UK, for example, has 6.6 critical care beds per 100,000 population, Italy has 12.5 and the US has 34.7. Germany has 29.2. I've seen reports that the north of Italy has even fewer beds per capita. That's not to say that our system won't get overwhelmed, as well, but we've got a more excess capacity to start with. We also have plans to use the VA system in case of pandemic, and I doubt they have anything similar. It may turn out that one by-product of our decentralized, expensive system is a lot of excess capacity that may come in handy in this situation.

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Anonymous wrote:Jet Blue passenger flew from JFK to Palm Beach and then informed crew when they landed that he had coronavirus. Everyone on the plane was allowed to go and "told to monitor their health for a couple of days."
https://abc7ny.com/6006144/

" the crew upon landing that he'd received notification confirming a positive test of COVID-19."

So he had tested presumed positive, and got the yeah it's confirmed during the flight? This is gross negligence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ireland, which has 43 cases, is shutting down all schools and universities.

Their per capita rate is relatively low, especially for Europe, 8.7, but there is definitely a trend beginning for countries to avoid an Italy situation by taking non-pharmaceutical containment measures much more proactively.

The Irish health system is overloaded on daily basis. They can't afford to get to Italy's level. They have people in beds in hallways and closets on the regular. Smart move (although Leo Varadker announced it while on his St Patrick's trip to DC!)

Weird,they are ranked 13/195. https://www.newstalk.com/news/ireland-places-13th-in-global-healthcare-system-ranking-535281#:~:text=

this is from January:
https://www.thejournal.ie/hospital-system-under-pressure-4955866-Jan2020/

and it's an annual occurrence. They don't have the staff or the beds full stop. The quality of the staff is wonderful, they just don't have enough. The HSE is literally always trying to play catch up and cancelling procedures is not uncommon at all. They are right to close everything now before it gets out of hand.

These indexes measure health access and quality. They look at things like life expectancy, infant mortality, and control of major chronic disease like heart conditions and diabetes. They absolutely do not take into account ability to take care of less common health conditions that affect life expectancy less or the ability to cope when a pandemic hits. Number of ICU beds, for example, would not factor in as an indicator on these types of indexes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ireland, which has 43 cases, is shutting down all schools and universities.

Their per capita rate is relatively low, especially for Europe, 8.7, but there is definitely a trend beginning for countries to avoid an Italy situation by taking non-pharmaceutical containment measures much more proactively.

The Irish health system is overloaded on daily basis. They can't afford to get to Italy's level. They have people in beds in hallways and closets on the regular. Smart move (although Leo Varadker announced it while on his St Patrick's trip to DC!)

Weird,they are ranked 13/195. https://www.newstalk.com/news/ireland-places-13th-in-global-healthcare-system-ranking-535281#:~:text=

this is from January:
https://www.thejournal.ie/hospital-system-under-pressure-4955866-Jan2020/

and it's an annual occurrence. They don't have the staff or the beds full stop. The quality of the staff is wonderful, they just don't have enough. The HSE is literally always trying to play catch up and cancelling procedures is not uncommon at all. They are right to close everything now before it gets out of hand.

I posted in the Italy thread, but there appears to be no correlation between the WHO rankings of the "quality" of health systems and number of critical care (ICU) beds per capita, which is what matters now. I've seen this discussed elsewhere, but Forbes has an article today with numbers, and the UK, for example, has 6.6 critical care beds per 100,000 population, Italy has 12.5 and the US has 34.7. Germany has 29.2. I've seen reports that the north of Italy has even fewer beds per capita. That's not to say that our system won't get overwhelmed, as well, but we've got a more excess capacity to start with. We also have plans to use the VA system in case of pandemic, and I doubt they have anything similar. It may turn out that one by-product of our decentralized, expensive system is a lot of excess capacity that may come in handy in this situation.

I also thought it was interesting that the nurse in the AMA thread said that their hospital was holding non-critical Coronavirus patients in ICU, because the rooms were negative airflow and could avoid exposing others in the hospital. That's the kind of thing you can do early on if you have lots of excess capacity. It will be interesting to see if this, combined with the fact that we know what we're dealing with much earlier in the process, helps avoid the Italy situation here.

[Anonymous]

I just read that Don Beyer wasn’t tested for coronavirus because they didn’t have enough tests.

A member of Congress. Sheesh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read that Don Beyer wasn’t tested for coronavirus because they didn’t have enough tests.

A member of Congress. Sheesh.

It is admirable that our no testing policy is applied in an egalitarian way, even if the policy itself is not admirable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also a Canadian here, living in Ottawa. One person has tested positive so far in my city.

The testing situation seems good, with centers being set up and the ability to get results in six hours apparently. Our health care system could however be easily overloaded.

My aunt had a suspected brain aneurysm two days ago and has received excellent health care (flown into a larger centre surgery right away, recovering well), but I wonder how that situation would play out in a few weeks once the virus has spread.

I am frustrating the Federal Government isn't encouraging employees to work from home, that's a huge segment of our population working in tight quarters and taking public transit everyday. Employees are still being told it's a low risk situation. Private companies are doing a much better job encouraging people to work from home.

It's March Break here next week and our stupid Premiere just told everyone to enjoy their vacations. I predict schools will be closed when everyone gets back, or within a few days when it's clear how many people have been exposed. New Brunswick has already told anyone returning from March break to expect to stay home and self isolate for two weeks.

Justin Trudeau is now in quarantine as his wife is sick after coming back from the UK
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/canadian-prime-minister-justin-trudeau-in-self-quarantine-after-wife-falls-sick-suspected-coronavirus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Canadians invading!!!


But seriously people, who will want your infected cash.

Toilet paper is your new bitcoin. Will be worth a fortune in two months.
Like a thou per roll!

What am I missing on the toilet paper craze? If you run out, can’t you just wash your butt?

In many countries people don’t even use toilet paper. They have little handheld washing hoses next to the toilet and in poorer countries they just use a small handheld pot to wash themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also a Canadian here, living in Ottawa. One person has tested positive so far in my city.

The testing situation seems good, with centers being set up and the ability to get results in six hours apparently. Our health care system could however be easily overloaded.

My aunt had a suspected brain aneurysm two days ago and has received excellent health care (flown into a larger centre surgery right away, recovering well), but I wonder how that situation would play out in a few weeks once the virus has spread.

I am frustrating the Federal Government isn't encouraging employees to work from home, that's a huge segment of our population working in tight quarters and taking public transit everyday. Employees are still being told it's a low risk situation. Private companies are doing a much better job encouraging people to work from home.

It's March Break here next week and our stupid Premiere just told everyone to enjoy their vacations. I predict schools will be closed when everyone gets back, or within a few days when it's clear how many people have been exposed. New Brunswick has already told anyone returning from March break to expect to stay home and self isolate for two weeks.

Justin Trudeau is now in quarantine as his wife is sick after coming back from the UK
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/canadian-prime-minister-justin-trudeau-in-self-quarantine-after-wife-falls-sick-suspected-coronavirus

What!! I'm the Canadian with kids home today from up thread. This is shocking.

Maybe this makes our government take notice. Why was she traveling there now. I seriously don't want to be around anyone who has been traveling these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read that Don Beyer wasn’t tested for coronavirus because they didn’t have enough tests.

A member of Congress. Sheesh.

But Gaetz was. Go figure.

[Anonymous]

North Dakota. First positive reported publicly today but am told there are actually 4. The reported case contracted it from someone in another state. (Heading into the part of the year when the snowbirds fly home.) Just found out we are all working from home after today. We have 2 locations in other countries who will be transitioning later.

[Anonymous]

soooo, what happens if most of our top govt officials become ill?