ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

The WaPo had an article with quotes from RG’s father. He said she ‘had a good life, but a hard life”. The article does not explain what was meant by this cryptic statement. Any ideas?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/01/08/renee-good-ice-who-is/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The WaPo had an article with quotes from RG’s father. He said she ‘had a good life, but a hard life”. The article does not explain what was meant by this cryptic statement. Any ideas?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/01/08/renee-good-ice-who-is/

Maybe because her husband died. What do YOU think it means? Sounds like you’re dying to insinuate it’s something bad.

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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.

I cannot get over how utterly lacking in humanity these ICE apologists are. They shot her in the head three times. She did not NOTHING to make shooting her three times in the head a reasonable response. Shut up with “she should have done this or that”. The ICE agent shot her in the head three times! Please spend some time searching for your soul.

How many times should he have shot her as she tried to kill him?

Now this lie has just become comical.

These ICE freaks are so emotionally invested that they just create and recreate their own reality despite the fact the we can all see the evidence.

Keep going, it makes you look ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.

I cannot get over how utterly lacking in humanity these ICE apologists are. They shot her in the head three times. She did not NOTHING to make shooting her three times in the head a reasonable response. Shut up with “she should have done this or that”. The ICE agent shot her in the head three times! Please spend some time searching for your soul.

How many times should he have shot her as she tried to kill him?

She wasn’t trying to kill him by all indications. But we’ll never know what her intentions were because she was shot to death.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.

The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.

I cannot get over how utterly lacking in humanity these ICE apologists are. They shot her in the head three times. She did not NOTHING to make shooting her three times in the head a reasonable response. Shut up with “she should have done this or that”. The ICE agent shot her in the head three times! Please spend some time searching for your soul.

How many times should he have shot her as she tried to kill him?

She did not try to kill him. He was fumbling with a phone app trying to face scan her through the front window. He glanced up realized he had no idea what was going on and pulled out his weapon. Distracted old fart with no training.

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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.

I cannot get over how utterly lacking in humanity these ICE apologists are. They shot her in the head three times. She did not NOTHING to make shooting her three times in the head a reasonable response. Shut up with “she should have done this or that”. The ICE agent shot her in the head three times! Please spend some time searching for your soul.

How many times should he have shot her as she tried to kill him?

She wasn’t trying to kill him by all indications. But we’ll never know what her intentions were because she was shot to death.

If the GOP releases the footage it has, we'll have a much clearer picture of the murder.

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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.

I cannot get over how utterly lacking in humanity these ICE apologists are. They shot her in the head three times. She did not NOTHING to make shooting her three times in the head a reasonable response. Shut up with “she should have done this or that”. The ICE agent shot her in the head three times! Please spend some time searching for your soul.

How many times should he have shot her as she tried to kill him?

She wasn’t trying to kill him by all indications. But we’ll never know what her intentions were because she was shot to death.

Why was her girlfriend outside the car filming the incident? Seems fishy.

[Anonymous]

He moved toward her and shot her from the side. Both officers were very clearly not in danger. Saying otherwise is just plain lying or unwillingness to admit to yourself and others what is plainly visible.

And honestly I'm sick of the bloviating dishonesty by the right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.

I cannot get over how utterly lacking in humanity these ICE apologists are. They shot her in the head three times. She did not NOTHING to make shooting her three times in the head a reasonable response. Shut up with “she should have done this or that”. The ICE agent shot her in the head three times! Please spend some time searching for your soul.

How many times should he have shot her as she tried to kill him?

She wasn’t trying to kill him by all indications. But we’ll never know what her intentions were because she was shot to death.

Why was her girlfriend outside the car filming the incident? Seems fishy.

Who knows, though it wouldn't defend the murder committed by Jonathan Ross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The WaPo had an article with quotes from RG’s father. He said she ‘had a good life, but a hard life”. The article does not explain what was meant by this cryptic statement. Any ideas?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/01/08/renee-good-ice-who-is/

Her Air Force veteran husband killed himself, for one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The WaPo had an article with quotes from RG’s father. He said she ‘had a good life, but a hard life”. The article does not explain what was meant by this cryptic statement. Any ideas?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/01/08/renee-good-ice-who-is/

Maybe because her husband died. What do YOU think it means? Sounds like you’re dying to insinuate it’s something bad.

More importantly, what difference does it make what the dead woman's life was like? Why, why, why do some people rush to blame the victim each and every time?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.

I cannot get over how utterly lacking in humanity these ICE apologists are. They shot her in the head three times. She did not NOTHING to make shooting her three times in the head a reasonable response. Shut up with “she should have done this or that”. The ICE agent shot her in the head three times! Please spend some time searching for your soul.

How many times should he have shot her as she tried to kill him?

She wasn’t trying to kill him by all indications. But we’ll never know what her intentions were because she was shot to death.

Why was her girlfriend outside the car filming the incident? Seems fishy.

Because masked thugs were roaming the street.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.

They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone

You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.

DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.

+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.

I cannot get over how utterly lacking in humanity these ICE apologists are. They shot her in the head three times. She did not NOTHING to make shooting her three times in the head a reasonable response. Shut up with “she should have done this or that”. The ICE agent shot her in the head three times! Please spend some time searching for your soul.

How many times should he have shot her as she tried to kill him?

She wasn’t trying to kill him by all indications. But we’ll never know what her intentions were because she was shot to death.

Why was her girlfriend outside the car filming the incident? Seems fishy.

This seems to be fake news you heard, the filmer was just a bystander, a member of the neighborhood. Her name is Emily Heller.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The WaPo had an article with quotes from RG’s father. He said she ‘had a good life, but a hard life”. The article does not explain what was meant by this cryptic statement. Any ideas?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/01/08/renee-good-ice-who-is/

Maybe because her husband died. What do YOU think it means? Sounds like you’re dying to insinuate it’s something bad.

There is a subset of of criminolgy called victimology. It is not victim blaming. Per google response:

“Victimology is the scientific study of crime victims, exploring the causes, consequences, and patterns of victimization, including the victim's role, their relationship with offenders, interactions with the justice system, and societal responses like media portrayal and support services. It's an interdisciplinary field, drawing from criminology, psychology, sociology, and law, aiming to understand victims better, reduce victimization, and improve support through theories like victim precipitation and by analyzing factors like class, race, and gender. “



It’s relevant in this case, actually in all cases. It can be used as an educational tool to prevent similar victims.