Protests on college campuses

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Snipers on the roofs at UCLA.

Showtime.

Oh gee…you are positively giddy at the prospect of American kids being shot and bloodied, no? This is showtime for you? Just the way bodies buried under the rubble in Gaza are showtime?

Seriously, is this the psychology we are dealing with?

Unfortunately, yes.

We’re dealing with a segment of the Zionist population that is deeply insecure and perversely mean-spirited following the atrocities that occurred during WWII. Feelings of insecurity regarding their intelligence and physical capabilities have led us to this point, where everyone can see the common themes emerge over and over again. And it’s definitely not within all Zionists, but enough of them that it’s clearly become a problem.

Anyone who opposes them is attacked as “young / naive”, “uninformed”, “stupid”, “crazy”, “sick and deranged”, “leaving understanding”, “pro-Hamas”, and on and on. There’s an obsession with vengeance and punishing others. The anger feels almost personal, as we see with the rage-fueled doxxing campaigns, trying to get at people to harm them, to destroy them, to make them pay.

There’s also an obsession with not just dominating Israel’s neighbors in the ME (with U.S. support, sadly), but humiliating them, dehumanizing them, and indiscriminately killing them. For years, we heard tales of IDF heroics, the clandestine Mossad missions, and relentless boasting about the “best fighting force in the world”. All of that was engineered from the need to feel strong and capable again, feelings of competence that the scumbag Nazis ruthlessly stole from them.

Meanwhile, “Never Again” has been co-opted by these extremists to mean “never again will our weakness and ignorance” be used against us. If they have to kill everyone else to feel safe, no matter how irrational their fears are, that’s an acceptable bargain to them.

So that’s why you find that segment of Zionists laughing about and making light of the misfortune of others, ignoring the horrific wrongdoing in their own camp, and committing to defend Israel over everything else (including America).

It’s their only shot at feeling whole and capable again. And in some ways, it’s understandable. But at what cost? And where does it end? I wish I knew.

This long winded baloney, probably written by a protestor cowering sleepless in a skanky tent, comes as close to hate speech as anything I have seen even in this sordid thread. Replace the word Zionist with any other group, and you will see what I mean. I hope this post and the poster gets thrown out of this forum. Absolute filth.

Those who disagree, imagine the post is about any other political group comprised of people of a certain ethnicity, where the group is being hate-psychoanalyzed by invoking the historical injustices suffered by their ethnic ancestors.

I urge you to read this essay by Erik K. Ward of the Southern Poverty Law Center because the group that is insecure, angry, and struggles to accept the progress of the civil rights movement isn’t the Jewish people who survived the Holocaust. Antisemetism doesn’t only threaten Jews.

https://politicalresearch.org/2017/06/29/skin-in-the-game-how-antisemitism-animates-white-nationalism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Snipers on the roofs at UCLA.

Showtime.

Oh gee…you are positively giddy at the prospect of American kids being shot and bloodied, no? This is showtime for you? Just the way bodies buried under the rubble in Gaza are showtime?

Seriously, is this the psychology we are dealing with?

Unfortunately, yes.

We’re dealing with a segment of the Zionist population that is deeply insecure and perversely mean-spirited following the atrocities that occurred during WWII. Feelings of insecurity regarding their intelligence and physical capabilities have led us to this point, where everyone can see the common themes emerge over and over again. And it’s definitely not within all Zionists, but enough of them that it’s clearly become a problem.

Anyone who opposes them is attacked as “young / naive”, “uninformed”, “stupid”, “crazy”, “sick and deranged”, “leaving understanding”, “pro-Hamas”, and on and on. There’s an obsession with vengeance and punishing others. The anger feels almost personal, as we see with the rage-fueled doxxing campaigns, trying to get at people to harm them, to destroy them, to make them pay.

There’s also an obsession with not just dominating Israel’s neighbors in the ME (with U.S. support, sadly), but humiliating them, dehumanizing them, and indiscriminately killing them. For years, we heard tales of IDF heroics, the clandestine Mossad missions, and relentless boasting about the “best fighting force in the world”. All of that was engineered from the need to feel strong and capable again, feelings of competence that the scumbag Nazis ruthlessly stole from them.

Meanwhile, “Never Again” has been co-opted by these extremists to mean “never again will our weakness and ignorance” be used against us. If they have to kill everyone else to feel safe, no matter how irrational their fears are, that’s an acceptable bargain to them.

So that’s why you find that segment of Zionists laughing about and making light of the misfortune of others, ignoring the horrific wrongdoing in their own camp, and committing to defend Israel over everything else (including America).

It’s their only shot at feeling whole and capable again. And in some ways, it’s understandable. But at what cost? And where does it end? I wish I knew.

This long winded baloney, probably written by a protestor cowering sleepless in a skanky tent, comes as close to hate speech as anything I have seen even in this sordid thread. Replace the word Zionist with any other group, and you will see what I mean. I hope this post and the poster gets thrown out of this forum. Absolute filth.

Those who disagree, imagine the post is about any other political group comprised of people of a certain ethnicity, where the group is being hate-psychoanalyzed by invoking the historical injustices suffered by their ethnic ancestors.

I tried it with “Irish”, “Cuban”, “Thai”, “Nigerian”, “Soccer Moms”, and even “Republican” substituted for Zionists, and in each case it failed to register as any of the angry things you said.

But perhaps you proved the thesis with that angry, attacking response?

Alright chump. Replace in the following para, copy pasted from the hate post.

“We’re dealing with a segment of the [Zionist] population that is deeply insecure and perversely mean-spirited following the atrocities that occurred during [WWII]. Feelings of insecurity regarding their intelligence and physical capabilities have led us to this point, where everyone can see the common themes emerge over and over again. And it’s definitely not within all Zionists, but enough of them that it’s clearly become a problem.”

Should I replace the words in parentheses for you, or do you have the cognitive ability to perceive what happens if I do? Shall we try ANC and apartheid? I can come up with many more. The subsequent paras get worse. Culminating in something about how killing others are their “only shot at feeling whole again”. Would you actually say something like this about Irish people? Cubans? Oh well maybe you and your ilk will, and probably do as a matter of routine. It will still be hate speech though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how obsessed people are with Jews. I'll never understand.

And before people insist that they don't care about Jews, just Zionists, I think an obsession with Israel or Zionists is just as weird. We live in a big beautiful world full of hate and murder, and this conflict, however long its gone on, is just one tiny part of it in an area so small you can barely see it on most world maps. "But muh tax dollars!" is a bullshit explanation.

That’s your argument? That due to the relatively small size of the region in question, everyone should just get over their shock and feelings of outrage over an ongoing genocide being committed in that tiny region? That we should instead focus on this big beautiful world; otherwise, we’re weird?

Respectfully, GTFOH.

Um, no, my point is that people have been killing each other every day, all over the world, for millennia. There are actually several genocides going on right now.
And perhaps instead of this obsession with Israel, you should look around our big beautiful world and think about one of those genocides for a few minutes.
What's weird is that all you care about, all you talk about, all you think about is Israel.

Not respectfully, learn how to freaking read.

Sure, I actually just finished reading this sentence:

Hey, brainiac, tell me how many genocides the U.S. is actively funding and supporting through side-by-side coordination?

Now it’s your turn to read it, and hopefully answer it!

Yeah, that’s what I thought. The End.

Like I said, your answer to your obsession is "muh taxes!" and it's horseshit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how obsessed people are with Jews. I'll never understand.

And before people insist that they don't care about Jews, just Zionists, I think an obsession with Israel or Zionists is just as weird. We live in a big beautiful world full of hate and murder, and this conflict, however long its gone on, is just one tiny part of it in an area so small you can barely see it on most world maps. "But muh tax dollars!" is a bullshit explanation.

That’s your argument? That due to the relatively small size of the region in question, everyone should just get over their shock and feelings of outrage over an ongoing genocide being committed in that tiny region? That we should instead focus on this big beautiful world; otherwise, we’re weird?

Respectfully, GTFOH.

Um, no, my point is that people have been killing each other every day, all over the world, for millennia. There are actually several genocides going on right now.
And perhaps instead of this obsession with Israel, you should look around our big beautiful world and think about one of those genocides for a few minutes.
What's weird is that all you care about, all you talk about, all you think about is Israel.

Not respectfully, learn how to freaking read.

Sure, I actually just finished reading this sentence:

Hey, brainiac, tell me how many genocides the U.S. is actively funding and supporting through side-by-side coordination?

Now it’s your turn to read it, and hopefully answer it!

Yeah, that’s what I thought. The End.

Like I said, your answer to your obsession is "muh taxes!" and it's horseshit.

The immorality of financially supporting Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians is part of it, but how about if I just oppose my country being associated in any way with someone like Netanyahu, whose values are anathema to mine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Snipers on the roofs at UCLA.

Showtime.

Oh gee…you are positively giddy at the prospect of American kids being shot and bloodied, no? This is showtime for you? Just the way bodies buried under the rubble in Gaza are showtime?

Seriously, is this the psychology we are dealing with?

Unfortunately, yes.

We’re dealing with a segment of the Zionist population that is deeply insecure and perversely mean-spirited following the atrocities that occurred during WWII. Feelings of insecurity regarding their intelligence and physical capabilities have led us to this point, where everyone can see the common themes emerge over and over again. And it’s definitely not within all Zionists, but enough of them that it’s clearly become a problem.

Anyone who opposes them is attacked as “young / naive”, “uninformed”, “stupid”, “crazy”, “sick and deranged”, “leaving understanding”, “pro-Hamas”, and on and on. There’s an obsession with vengeance and punishing others. The anger feels almost personal, as we see with the rage-fueled doxxing campaigns, trying to get at people to harm them, to destroy them, to make them pay.

There’s also an obsession with not just dominating Israel’s neighbors in the ME (with U.S. support, sadly), but humiliating them, dehumanizing them, and indiscriminately killing them. For years, we heard tales of IDF heroics, the clandestine Mossad missions, and relentless boasting about the “best fighting force in the world”. All of that was engineered from the need to feel strong and capable again, feelings of competence that the scumbag Nazis ruthlessly stole from them.

Meanwhile, “Never Again” has been co-opted by these extremists to mean “never again will our weakness and ignorance” be used against us. If they have to kill everyone else to feel safe, no matter how irrational their fears are, that’s an acceptable bargain to them.

So that’s why you find that segment of Zionists laughing about and making light of the misfortune of others, ignoring the horrific wrongdoing in their own camp, and committing to defend Israel over everything else (including America).

It’s their only shot at feeling whole and capable again. And in some ways, it’s understandable. But at what cost? And where does it end? I wish I knew.

This long winded baloney, probably written by a protestor cowering sleepless in a skanky tent, comes as close to hate speech as anything I have seen even in this sordid thread. Replace the word Zionist with any other group, and you will see what I mean. I hope this post and the poster gets thrown out of this forum. Absolute filth.

Those who disagree, imagine the post is about any other political group comprised of people of a certain ethnicity, where the group is being hate-psychoanalyzed by invoking the historical injustices suffered by their ethnic ancestors.

I tried it with “Irish”, “Cuban”, “Thai”, “Nigerian”, “Soccer Moms”, and even “Republican” substituted for Zionists, and in each case it failed to register as any of the angry things you said.

But perhaps you proved the thesis with that angry, attacking response?

Alright chump. Replace in the following para, copy pasted from the hate post.

“We’re dealing with a segment of the [Zionist] population that is deeply insecure and perversely mean-spirited following the atrocities that occurred during [WWII]. Feelings of insecurity regarding their intelligence and physical capabilities have led us to this point, where everyone can see the common themes emerge over and over again. And it’s definitely not within all Zionists, but enough of them that it’s clearly become a problem.”

Should I replace the words in parentheses for you, or do you have the cognitive ability to perceive what happens if I do? Shall we try ANC and apartheid? I can come up with many more. The subsequent paras get worse. Culminating in something about how killing others are their “only shot at feeling whole again”. Would you actually say something like this about Irish people? Cubans? Oh well maybe you and your ilk will, and probably do as a matter of routine. It will still be hate speech though.

Yeah, we won’t agree. I wouldn’t have an issue substituting anything else in there because what was said is true. There IS a segment, of which I presume you’re part, that is angry and vicious and frankly, obnoxious. Didn’t you see them at UCLA night? The Zionist mob being rightfully blamed by many groups for the vicious, criminal attacks last night on the encampment? The ones I read earlier are under federal investigation for hate crimes? Are they not real?

Why would it be hate speech to describe that reality?

[Anonymous]

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Oh, right. Here we go again. The left is mortified by the behavior of their own LWNJs, so they have to pretend that it's really "right-wing agitators" at play. For once, own the lunatics in your OWN party.

+ 100

It's what they do...... attempt to distract from their own lunacy.
Seth Abramson is the king of projection like this.

[Anonymous]

https://nypost.com/2024/05/02/us-news/university-of-tehran-professor-foad-izadi-says-us-college-protesters-would-support-iran/

Bruh, we are being played.

Islamist Republic professor in Tehran applauds the American college protesters, noting they will side with Iran rather than American Zionists.

Fun fact: the Iranian religious extremist was educated in Houston.

[Anonymous]

LAPD is now working to break up the UCLA encampment.

Bring out the tear gas!

[Anonymous]

"Protect students." LOL.

Parents - choose where you want to spend your money wisely.
Find a university that believes in education and not indoctrination.

[Anonymous]

UCLA should be embarrassed for not taking control of this situation a week ago.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, what do pro Israeli people want? Should we all put duct tape on our mouths and not utter a single word criticizing Israel? Will that complete their desired full control over United States of America?

Isn’t that what is being asked in the new antisemitism bill? Any criticism of Israel will not be under free speech?

And, no… I am not an antisemite. I am your regular person who doesn’t operate from a position of hate and control.

Personally, I think it would be a good start if people would invest as much time and energy in other wars around the world as they have in this one.

Students didn’t come out in huge numbers to protest the Afghanistan or Iraq wars (although I did) because there was a feeling of patriotism after 911 and trust in our government to take the appropriate response.

But in the case of the Israeli - Gaza war, Israel is not our country. So that same feeling of patriotism / blind allegiance isn’t there except for (some) people who are Jewish and feel that Israel is tied to their existence.

I believe that pro Israelis truly feel that any criticism of Israel is antisemitic because to them Israel and their Jewish identity are deeply intertwined. But objectively Israel is a country and not a faith and so others who don’t share that intertwined identity (which includes some Jews, including me) criticize it not because we are antisemitic (I’m Jewish!) but bc we see it doing horrible things and lying about it.

Hamas also did horrible things but two wrongs don’t make a right no matter how loudly people think it does.

[Anonymous]

I’m watching this live on the today show and I just don’t have words to describe how awful this is all around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, what do pro Israeli people want? Should we all put duct tape on our mouths and not utter a single word criticizing Israel? Will that complete their desired full control over United States of America?

Isn’t that what is being asked in the new antisemitism bill? Any criticism of Israel will not be under free speech?

And, no… I am not an antisemite. I am your regular person who doesn’t operate from a position of hate and control.

Personally, I think it would be a good start if people would invest as much time and energy in other wars around the world as they have in this one.

Students didn’t come out in huge numbers to protest the Afghanistan or Iraq wars (although I did) because there was a feeling of patriotism after 911 and trust in our government to take the appropriate response.

But in the case of the Israeli - Gaza war, Israel is not our country. So that same feeling of patriotism / blind allegiance isn’t there except for (some) people who are Jewish and feel that Israel is tied to their existence.

I believe that pro Israelis truly feel that any criticism of Israel is antisemitic because to them Israel and their Jewish identity are deeply intertwined. But objectively Israel is a country and not a faith and so others who don’t share that intertwined identity (which includes some Jews, including me) criticize it not because we are antisemitic (I’m Jewish!) but bc we see it doing horrible things and lying about it.

Hamas also did horrible things but two wrongs don’t make a right no matter how loudly people think it does.

No, it's because it's an election year and Soros is throwing money around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how obsessed people are with Jews. I'll never understand.

This is not about Jews.

This is about Zionists. This is about Israel’s
Longstanding history of outsized responses. This is about Israel dehumanizing and underestimating Palestinians. This is about Israel’s inability to live peacefully with its neighbors. This is about families displaced from their homes/forced to bury their children. This is about the 1000s of amputees with limbs blown off by IDF. This is about mothers not being able to feed their kids. This is about the US sending billions to Israel to provide weapons plus at the same time $$ to Gaza to compensate for the harm its bombs have caused. This is about US taking a ridiculous stance that it’s ok for the ceasefire to be temporary. This is about the hypocrisy that Israel has a right to exist per the UN but it’s ok for Israel to ignore all other UN orders.

I believe you think it’s all about antisemitism. But it’s not.