The plan that LE refer to of hiking 8.5 miles in the heat that has been well established for that area on that day. I swear, you're all "only what LE says" and then as soon as someone quotes what LE says you disagree with it if it doesn't fit your preconception. |
Removing that bit of the timeline makes me lean more towards fa. If they went down SL trail and only got 1.5 miles from car/trailhead it seems they didn't get to the river for the toxic algae or hike long enough for multiple cases of heat stroke. |
I didn't read all of this thread but is it possible the dog drank toxic algae water, got sick, dad stayed behind with dog because he was already feeling effects of heat stroke and mom went to get help but also succumbed to the heat? |
And to everyone who keeps saying “there’s easier ways to die than a horrible hike in 100 degree weather”-it could be that to save their families and friends extra sorrow, they really wanted it to look like heat stroke. There were nicer hiking areas closer to their house than this one (this is being discussed on WS). Instead they chose this trail, where they knew there would be no other people. |
Pretty sure police allegedly found their prints on the other side of the trail, implying they were at the end of the loop (traveling clockwise), not the beginning (counter-clockwise). So they had travelled 7 or so miles in the blazing sun. |
The mom really wasn't actually far from the group. |
What is FA? |
Thanks for this link. The river does not look TOXIC (!!!!!) to me. Why is it so dangerous? Runoff from farms? I love nature but this trail doesn't even look that pretty, certainly not worth treking through in 100 degree temps. |
Interesting. "I would not want to do this hike on a warm day." |
1.5 miles in and from the car isn't enough to kill everyone. One of the adults would have been able to make it back if this was the beginning of the trip. I would also love to know when the cell service stopped working. It presumably worked in the parking lot where they parked? So it's not as if you have to go all the way back to the car to make an emergency call? |
That is the key. And now have removed it from their timeline. Hmmmmmmm....... |
What is "WS"? |
A hiker died this week in Utah's Mount Zion Park. Very similar conditions to this family - he was hiking for 9 miles, the weather was over 95F, and he suffered from heat exhaustion. An interesting point made was that the body shuts down when the internal temperature hits 103F. Its very likely that this CA family, which was hiking in temps nearly 10 degrees higher, suffered the same fate.
A hiker has died of suspected heat stroke in Zion National Park in Utah amid 95 degree heat, park officials have announced. John Henry Wolfe, from Milwaukee, had reached the end of a strenuous nine mile canyon trail on Monday when he started complaining about exhaustion, a statement from the National Park Service said. https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2021/08/31/prc-hiker-dies-from-apparent-heat-exhaustion-in-zion-national-park/#.YTEU_d8pDZs ![]() |
Of all the theories, this is the most far-fetched to me. I'd believe the alien theory before I would believe that their plan from the beginning was to hike 8 miles and die of heat stroke. |
They have not issued any retraction of previous statements about the 8.5 mile trail that were based on prints. Hopefully someone asks at one of the updates if LE has changed their beliefs about the route the family took. |