Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:Do we think the Blake publicist who writes multiple posts here at a time gets paid by the hour, or the post?

So only pro Baldoni posts are allowed? Why is that, Melissa Nathan?

Nope, it’s just that you are so strangely ardent and seem to be the only person interpreting the facts
In a particular way. And the number of posts by you is a bit odd.

You think there is only one other person here who has a different opinion? Maybe you'd be more comfortable in the TT echo chamber.

There is only one ardent Blake supporter who posts in bursts, has a certain writing style and interpreters everything only in her favor.

No there isn't. They're also breaking down her complaint and why it's iffy and where there's wiggly room. Just because they aren't 100% for Justin doesn't mean they're 100% for Blake. I find these discussions helpful. It's good to see other people's POV and what they pick up

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone following Perez Hilton on instagram? He has done several short deep dive videos on this.

His latest goes on to say that the suing of the New York Times was not actually to win, but to be able to do discovery. What that allowed them to do was bring several notes and texts and other proof that Justin hired an intimacy coordinator before filming began and set up a meeting. Blake did not want to attend the meeting and said she’d like to start meeting when production began. Texts prove this.

Justin emailed other producers that this would delay workflows but they’d work around it. The intimacy coordinator is there to help them coordinate and choreograph scenes so not really something that’s done on set, it’s done before -it’s part of the scripting. What sex scenes will there be, what will they look like, etc. It’s not supposed to be done on the fly on set.

Justin met with the intimacy coordinator SEVERAL TIMES and Blake didn’t want to attend those meetings - he was then tasked with sharing his handwritten and dated notes with Blake – that is what she said in the times article was her being uncomfortable with him talking about sexual experiences! If she been at the damn meetings that would have been a lot more professional. the intimacy coordinator suggested a few sex scenes and since Blake wasn’t at the meeting, Justin had to relay them . but the intimacy coordinator would’ve helped them work through any awkwardness -that is why she is there! She was trying to choreograph scenes that would make them both comfortable.

The NYT really dropped the ball with leaving out that critical context. It made it look like Blake all of a sudden had to demand an intimacy coordinator when there was one all along that she wouldn’t meet with.

That was one of the strangest things I thought about this whole suit, that in a big budget production like this, with such demanding physical scenes given the domestic violence theme, that there wouldn’t be an intimacy coordinator which is at this point an industry standard. Well, this shows there very much was one from the beginning that Justin was forced to work with alone - which her lawsuit and the times article deliberately obscures.

Before filming began? So filming began in May 2023. She had a baby in February 2023. Maybe that had something to do with it and why she wanted to wait until filming began. Just a hunch that she had other things going on.

Lol, like attending Taylor swifts eras tour in Madrid? Please.

In addition, she was getting ready to launch a hair care line and she had two other businesses with her mock tail and cocktail lines. Maybe she just took on too much. I firmly believe women can have it all, but maybe not all at one time.

If she was not prepared to do a big movie so soon after having her child, she simply should not have signed the contract for the film. I’m sorry, but this makes all women look bad if you just say well she just had a baby she couldn’t possibly be expected to uphold the standards of the industry!

Prrez Hilton just published another video which completely gives another depiction of what happened in the early days of production with her getting feedback about her appearance. Apparently sony the distributor was very upset that paparazzi had gotten photos of Blake out in New York on set in some of her characters outfits. If you recall the photos got a lot of backlash on Instagram that Blake was too old to play Lily. Lily was 23 in the book, but Colleen Hoover explained for the movie they had to make the characters older because an acclaimed neurosurgeon could not have been 27 years old like in the book. So they aged up all the characters so that Ryle could be an actual experienced neurosurgeon, and then it made sense that Lily was older too.

But it generated a lot of backlash from fans. It was Sony who had concerns about this that they bought to Justin the director. He says he was conveying notes from Sony in her trailer along the lines of changing some of the wardrobe choices, so he claims. He said he didn’t tear up about Blake looking old, but toward the end of the conversation, she complimented him on what a great job he was doing, and what a great director he was and he teared up. It sounds like she completely distorted that conversation? But who knows, it does sound like a lot of he said she said, but. if Justin’s team can show that Sony gave those notes that would probably help his case and hurt hers.

I don't view that as exonerating. The issue with the paparazzi photos, the online complaining about Lively's age, and Sony's unhappiness are all things that Baldoni was in charge of dealing with and Lively... was not. He was the director and his company was producing. Dealing with unhappiness from the studio is part of that job. Going to Lively and saying "everyone is saying you're too old for this role and your outfits are bad" is totally unproductive and unprofessional. What is Lively going to do? Be younger? Recast herself? If Baldoni wanted to change up her costuming that was within his control even though Lively had played a big role in selecting Lily's clothes. He was the director, he could have overruled her if he wanted to.

So no I don't think it helps his case that Sony gave those notes, at least not on this issue. Lively wasn't directing or producing the movie. Baldoni was her boss. What would you do if your boss came into your office, started complaining about some conflict with higher ups that impacts you but over which you have zero control, and then started crying? I would view that as very unprofessional and burdening me with stuff way beyond my actual job.

Baldoni was the director, that was his problem to figure out. He should have worked with the film's PR team to combat the negative press, sought to do a better job securing the set, and perhaps worked with the costume department if he was worried about Lily's look for the film. I don't see what going to Lively and complaining about it did except make his star actress feel self conscious about her age, something she has no control. It comes off as immature and unprofessional.

He even says he did have that conversation with her, upset over online reactions to her age. She said he cried about it to her, he says he merely "teared up" either way WTF? How is any of that appropriate?

It may not be ‘appropriate’ but it’s not actionable without a heck of a lot more.

- lawyer

Thanks, lawyer. But if you were familiar with the complaint you would know it was 1 of 30 items.

Lawyer again, as I mentioned, there would have to be a lot more to prove a pattern of harassment, and given the entire context including the power imbalances, I don’t see it. But we shall see. Personally I think Blake made the wrong move here.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we think the Blake publicist who writes multiple posts here at a time gets paid by the hour, or the post?

So only pro Baldoni posts are allowed? Why is that, Melissa Nathan?

Nope, it’s just that you are so strangely ardent and seem to be the only person interpreting the facts
In a particular way. And the number of posts by you is a bit odd.

You think there is only one other person here who has a different opinion? Maybe you'd be more comfortable in the TT echo chamber.

There is only one ardent Blake supporter who posts in bursts, has a certain writing style and interpreters everything only in her favor.

No there isn't. They're also breaking down her complaint and why it's iffy and where there's wiggly room. Just because they aren't 100% for Justin doesn't mean they're 100% for Blake. I find these discussions helpful. It's good to see other people's POV and what they pick up

Sweetie, writing in the third person doesn’t fool us.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line for me is that if someone like Leighton master filed a harassment complaint, I’d believe her. Blake lively and Ryan Reynolds seem very calculated and it’s hard to take them at face value, especially given the “he said/she said” nature of these allegations. Sounds like they’re all full of themselves (the other actor too) and clashed on set, and now Blake and Ryan are trying to salvage her image by taking him down.

This this this

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Wondering how the William Morris stuff will play out. There is a reason they dropped Justin-Ryan Reynolds also repped by them (not sure on Blake but safe guess). Did Ryan threaten to walk? Did he not threaten but they dropped him based on the NYT article? Their hands are not clean and possibly Reynolds. What a mess. Also would be interesting to know how long Justin worked with them and did his agent stay at WM or did he stand up for his client and leave? The more you look at all the angles the more it looks so bad. Every day something new so this story seems to keep going. The dumb thing is the movie made a lot of money and Justin said he wasn’t interested in directly more from the series. Everyone should have gone their separate ways and just didn’t work together. I always liked Ryan Reynolds but now wondering if he is the problem. I also didn’t realize he was so much older than Blake.

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. The dumb thing is the movie made a lot of money and Justin said he wasn’t interested in directly more from the series

Probably would have happened had Baldoni not gone after her. Dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we think the Blake publicist who writes multiple posts here at a time gets paid by the hour, or the post?

So only pro Baldoni posts are allowed? Why is that, Melissa Nathan?

Nope, it’s just that you are so strangely ardent and seem to be the only person interpreting the facts
In a particular way. And the number of posts by you is a bit odd.

You think there is only one other person here who has a different opinion? Maybe you'd be more comfortable in the TT echo chamber.

There is only one ardent Blake supporter who posts in bursts, has a certain writing style and interpreters everything only in her favor.

No there isn't. They're also breaking down her complaint and why it's iffy and where there's wiggly room. Just because they aren't 100% for Justin doesn't mean they're 100% for Blake. I find these discussions helpful. It's good to see other people's POV and what they pick up

Sweetie, writing in the third person doesn’t fool us.

Sweetie what about my comment resembles the previous writings at all 😭 Pls

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. The dumb thing is the movie made a lot of money and Justin said he wasn’t interested in directly more from the series

Probably would have happened had Baldoni not gone after her. Dumb.

I said this on the previous page. I think he prematurely freaked out. He didn't need to assemble a crisis pr team. There were rumors he and Blake didn't get along. Deny it to focus on the movie and move along.

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering how the William Morris stuff will play out. There is a reason they dropped Justin-Ryan Reynolds also repped by them (not sure on Blake but safe guess). Did Ryan threaten to walk? Did he not threaten but they dropped him based on the NYT article? Their hands are not clean and possibly Reynolds. What a mess. Also would be interesting to know how long Justin worked with them and did his agent stay at WM or did he stand up for his client and leave? The more you look at all the angles the more it looks so bad. Every day something new so this story seems to keep going. The dumb thing is the movie made a lot of money and Justin said he wasn’t interested in directly more from the series. Everyone should have gone their separate ways and just didn’t work together. I always liked Ryan Reynolds but now wondering if he is the problem. I also didn’t realize he was so much older than Blake.

The more that comes out, the worse Lively and Reynolds look. It doesn’t seem like they thought this through, probably thought she would get a ton of sympathy from the NYT article and that would be the end of it. They were so wrong. Can’t wait to see the next release of texts.

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Interesting article

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14245721/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-amanda-goff.html

To be honest, never heard of Baldoni until this lawsuit. Could this just be PR for the film?

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14245721/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-amanda-goff.html

To be honest, never heard of Baldoni until this lawsuit. Could this just be PR for the film?

It says "One thing is clear in all of this, there were many, many people waiting for Blake to fall from her pedestal as America's sweetheart. And it's more than a little disturbing."

I had no idea Blake was considered as America's sweetheart.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14245721/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-amanda-goff.html

To be honest, never heard of Baldoni until this lawsuit. Could this just be PR for the film?

It says "One thing is clear in all of this, there were many, many people waiting for Blake to fall from her pedestal as America's sweetheart. And it's more than a little disturbing."

I had no idea Blake was considered as America's sweetheart.

She might have been America's sweetheart around 2009. I would say that title currently belongs to Sydney Sweeney.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14245721/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-amanda-goff.html

To be honest, never heard of Baldoni until this lawsuit. Could this just be PR for the film?

It says "One thing is clear in all of this, there were many, many people waiting for Blake to fall from her pedestal as America's sweetheart. And it's more than a little disturbing."

I had no idea Blake was considered as America's sweetheart.

She might have been America's sweetheart around 2009. I would say that title currently belongs to Sydney Sweeney.

Not Sydney in my opinion. She doesn't act anymore but that belongs to Sabrina Carpenter.

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering how the William Morris stuff will play out. There is a reason they dropped Justin-Ryan Reynolds also repped by them (not sure on Blake but safe guess). Did Ryan threaten to walk? Did he not threaten but they dropped him based on the NYT article? Their hands are not clean and possibly Reynolds. What a mess. Also would be interesting to know how long Justin worked with them and did his agent stay at WM or did he stand up for his client and leave? The more you look at all the angles the more it looks so bad. Every day something new so this story seems to keep going. The dumb thing is the movie made a lot of money and Justin said he wasn’t interested in directly more from the series. Everyone should have gone their separate ways and just didn’t work together. I always liked Ryan Reynolds but now wondering if he is the problem. I also didn’t realize he was so much older than Blake.

There’s layers to it. One of Baldoni’s PR people (Abel) used to work for Jones Works. The CEO of JW is married to Jason Hodes, a partner at the talent agency WME.

https://www.businessinsider.com/stephanie-jones-jonesworks-pr-clients-tom-brady-jeff-bezos

https://www.thewrap.com/justin-baldoni-publicist-infighting-jennifer-abel-stephanie-jones-blake-lively/

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14245721/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-lawsuit-amanda-goff.html

To be honest, never heard of Baldoni until this lawsuit. Could this just be PR for the film?

It says "One thing is clear in all of this, there were many, many people waiting for Blake to fall from her pedestal as America's sweetheart. And it's more than a little disturbing."

I had no idea Blake was considered as America's sweetheart.

She might have been America's sweetheart around 2009. I would say that title currently belongs to Sydney Sweeney.

Not Sydney in my opinion. She doesn't act anymore but that belongs to Sabrina Carpenter.

By this time next year these 2 will probably start getting the negative smear campaign. You all love building people up to later drag them through the mud.