ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.


So if someone walks in front of my car as I'm turning a corner and I don't see them quickly enough, they can shoot me in the head??


Please explain what right you have to strike that person with a deadly weapon (your 3 ton SUV in this case).


Where did the PP say they had that right? They are describing a scenario that happens in grocery store parking lots every single day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.


So if someone walks in front of my car as I'm turning a corner and I don't see them quickly enough, they can shoot me in the head??


If it's you or him, I'd say "yes". You're operating a potentially deadly weapon. Operate it carefully and you'll have no problems. Operate it recklessly and you might kill someone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?


This video clearly shows he's a moron who walked in front of her car.


the video clearly shows she was a moron who disobeyed instructions, put her car in gear, and drove in the direction of pedestrians.


You've seen video with all of the instructions she was being given? Can you link that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.


They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone



You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.


So if someone walks in front of my car as I'm turning a corner and I don't see them quickly enough, they can shoot me in the head??


If it's you or him, I'd say "yes". You're operating a potentially deadly weapon. Operate it carefully and you'll have no problems. Operate it recklessly and you might kill someone.


So you're saying that if somebody barely misses you in a parking lot, you have the right to fire two kill shots into their side window? That's your argument?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.


So if someone walks in front of my car as I'm turning a corner and I don't see them quickly enough, they can shoot me in the head??


Please explain what right you have to strike that person with a deadly weapon (your 3 ton SUV in this case).


Where did I say that? If you drive around in a city like New York or Chicago you will frequently see people carelessly walking in front of cars or drivers not paying attention and nearly hitting someone. No one is going to say that a reasonable response is to shoot the driver in the head. Of course the driver doesn't have a right to hit a person with their car, but accidents do happen. It's clear from the videos that she wasn't purposely trying to run over the agent. This guy has now been involved in multiple incidents...sounds like he's not smart or responsible enough to carry a gun.
Anonymous
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the video clearly shows she was a moron who disobeyed instructions, put her car in gear, and drove in the direction of pedestrians.


the instructions were "move move move" - that is what she did. And he shot her anyhow. Three times.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?


This video clearly shows he's a moron who walked in front of her car.


the video clearly shows she was a moron who disobeyed instructions, put her car in gear, and drove in the direction of pedestrians.


lol.

K.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Sorry for not reading 102 pages but why was ICE interacting with her in the first place?


She was part of the "ICE Watch" movement and was using her vehicle to block the ICE vehicles.
The ICE officers told her to exit her vehicle. She did not comply and we saw what happened.


She's allowed to protest. ICE agents aren't allowed to murder her like Jonathan Ross did.


She is not allowed to block traffic (selectively), interfere with lawful enforcement operations, and disobey police orders.

Not to mention: “lawful protest” does not include attempted murder of a federal agent.


We all know that she did not attempt to murder a federal agent. Even you know that. Again, Jonathan Ross had zero cause to fire three murder shots into her vehicle.


It's the three shots that gets me. The first shot is the only one that could maaaybe be self defense, but the other 2 were out of anger.


The first shot was also wrong. His life was so in danger that he had time to unholster his weapon, lean in toward the vehicle, take aim, and fire?


all while filming with his phone
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.


So if someone walks in front of my car as I'm turning a corner and I don't see them quickly enough, they can shoot me in the head??


If it's you or him, I'd say "yes". You're operating a potentially deadly weapon. Operate it carefully and you'll have no problems. Operate it recklessly and you might kill someone.


If someone starts to back out into you in a parking lot you think the appropriate response is to murder them?? You can't be serious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?


This video clearly shows he's a moron who walked in front of her car.


the video clearly shows she was a moron who disobeyed instructions, put her car in gear, and drove in the direction of pedestrians.


Sure, Jan.
Anonymous
I believe because the ICE agent deliberately stepped in front of the vehicle he created the imminent danger of potentially getting hit by the car he stepped in front of and therefore he voids the defense that he was warranted to shot the driver.

This scenario has been litigated before in court. If you create the imminent danger, you lose the right to that specific defense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sorry for not reading 102 pages but why was ICE interacting with her in the first place?


It is a good question. they were not on an active "mission" but rather were on a break and headed back to their HQ.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:GUYS!

There is yet ANOTHER video none of you have seen, and you can watch the video being created, here on this BBC journalism / exposé; fast-forward to the 1:10 mark:

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/ceqzj9932wjo

Notice BBC’s label “Agent Filming” ?

That agent, we now know, is Ross.

He is making his own video. NO ONE (outside .gov), has seen the incident from the agent’s own perspective.

THAT piece of video evidence will likely prove pivotal here.

With “agent filming” the BBC is just pointing out that the shooter is filming with his phone. There’s no indication that the BBC has that video. Republican House members voted that it can’t be released.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GUYS!

There is yet ANOTHER video none of you have seen, and you can watch the video being created, here on this BBC journalism / exposé; fast-forward to the 1:10 mark:

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/ceqzj9932wjo

Notice BBC’s label “Agent Filming” ?

That agent, we now know, is Ross.

He is making his own video. NO ONE (outside .gov), has seen the incident from the agent’s own perspective.

THAT piece of video evidence will likely prove pivotal here.

With “agent filming” the BBC is just pointing out that the shooter is filming with his phone. There’s no indication that the BBC has that video. Republican House members voted that it can’t be released.


+1 I'm sure the agent's video has been deleted by now.
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