Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.

Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.

Can you tell us the level of this Spanish academy
Is it a La Liga Pro Club academy and if yes, how did he get to play with them not having a European passport?

Is BSC helping with the effort? Just wondering if local DMV clubs are actively working to help players avoid DCU academy and get recruited elsewhere.

You are asking if local P2P clubs are assisting players to make in-roads into legitimate European academies?

NO!

Avoid the MLS Pro Academy in a desire to find a path to professional academy in Europe?
Nonsense.

You think Athletic Bilbao knows and acknowledges Bethesda over DC United?
Get serious people.

We will skip over the Athletic Bilbao reference as I have only met one person here in the State from the Basque Country who would qualify to play for them.

Let's say you have two kids, one from BSC and one from DCU, trialing with Tottenham. Both equal players and have shown equally in front of scouts. BSC does not get any fee but DC United wants $50k from Tottenham.

Who is going to get the nod? You can replace BSC with Achilles, Armour, Arlington, etc. Based on the details in this conversation, if my kid is approached by a MLS academy, I may try to determine what they would like me to pay as the "cost of his training" in order to maintain his right to transition for free. This is business and negotiations and it does not hurt to have these conversations.

PP mentioned "legitimate" academy. The most "likely" route for most Americans will be a Category 2 academy per the UK system or equivalent in other countries and then work your way up. That is how many of the current Americans have done it. It feels like we forget the word, development, and think everybody is supposed to be a can't miss prospect.

Smart and logical thinking. This is exactly.how to approach it and exactly the analysis that would be done with two equal players. Not the only way but a really good way of thinking. You clearly get it.

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.

Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.

Can you tell us the level of this Spanish academy
Is it a La Liga Pro Club academy and if yes, how did he get to play with them not having a European passport?

Is BSC helping with the effort? Just wondering if local DMV clubs are actively working to help players avoid DCU academy and get recruited elsewhere.

You are asking if local P2P clubs are assisting players to make in-roads into legitimate European academies?

NO!

Avoid the MLS Pro Academy in a desire to find a path to professional academy in Europe?
Nonsense.

You think Athletic Bilbao knows and acknowledges Bethesda over DC United?
Get serious people.

We will skip over the Athletic Bilbao reference as I have only met one person here in the State from the Basque Country who would qualify to play for them.

Let's say you have two kids, one from BSC and one from DCU, trialing with Tottenham. Both equal players and have shown equally in front of scouts. BSC does not get any fee but DC United wants $50k from Tottenham.

Who is going to get the nod? You can replace BSC with Achilles, Armour, Arlington, etc. Based on the details in this conversation, if my kid is approached by a MLS academy, I may try to determine what they would like me to pay as the "cost of his training" in order to maintain his right to transition for free. This is business and negotiations and it does not hurt to have these conversations.

PP mentioned "legitimate" academy. The most "likely" route for most Americans will be a Category 2 academy per the UK system or equivalent in other countries and then work your way up. That is how many of the current Americans have done it. It feels like we forget the word, development, and think everybody is supposed to be a can't miss prospect.

Smart and logical thinking. This is exactly.how to approach it and exactly the analysis that would be done with two equal players. Not the only way but a really good way of thinking. You clearly get it.

Or you could ask DCU if you could just be a future player and still play with your existing club. You get the best of both clubs and retain your rights. You train and sometimes play with DCU and you can also play with you local P2P. To me, this is the best path at DCU given how poor of an academy it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.

Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.

Can you tell us the level of this Spanish academy
Is it a La Liga Pro Club academy and if yes, how did he get to play with them not having a European passport?

Is BSC helping with the effort? Just wondering if local DMV clubs are actively working to help players avoid DCU academy and get recruited elsewhere.

You are asking if local P2P clubs are assisting players to make in-roads into legitimate European academies?

NO!

Avoid the MLS Pro Academy in a desire to find a path to professional academy in Europe?
Nonsense.

You think Athletic Bilbao knows and acknowledges Bethesda over DC United?
Get serious people.

We will skip over the Athletic Bilbao reference as I have only met one person here in the State from the Basque Country who would qualify to play for them.

Let's say you have two kids, one from BSC and one from DCU, trialing with Tottenham. Both equal players and have shown equally in front of scouts. BSC does not get any fee but DC United wants $50k from Tottenham.

Who is going to get the nod? You can replace BSC with Achilles, Armour, Arlington, etc. Based on the details in this conversation, if my kid is approached by a MLS academy, I may try to determine what they would like me to pay as the "cost of his training" in order to maintain his right to transition for free. This is business and negotiations and it does not hurt to have these conversations.

PP mentioned "legitimate" academy. The most "likely" route for most Americans will be a Category 2 academy per the UK system or equivalent in other countries and then work your way up. That is how many of the current Americans have done it. It feels like we forget the word, development, and think everybody is supposed to be a can't miss prospect.

Smart and logical thinking. This is exactly.how to approach it and exactly the analysis that would be done with two equal players. Not the only way but a really good way of thinking. You clearly get it.

Or you could ask DCU if you could just be a future player and still play with your existing club. You get the best of both clubs and retain your rights. You train and sometimes play with DCU and you can also play with you local P2P. To me, this is the best path at DCU given how poor of an academy it is.

I would make sure that this setup also means they can’t put you on their protected list.

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.

Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.

Can you tell us the level of this Spanish academy
Is it a La Liga Pro Club academy and if yes, how did he get to play with them not having a European passport?

Is BSC helping with the effort? Just wondering if local DMV clubs are actively working to help players avoid DCU academy and get recruited elsewhere.

You are asking if local P2P clubs are assisting players to make in-roads into legitimate European academies?

NO!

Avoid the MLS Pro Academy in a desire to find a path to professional academy in Europe?
Nonsense.

You think Athletic Bilbao knows and acknowledges Bethesda over DC United?
Get serious people.

We will skip over the Athletic Bilbao reference as I have only met one person here in the State from the Basque Country who would qualify to play for them.

Let's say you have two kids, one from BSC and one from DCU, trialing with Tottenham. Both equal players and have shown equally in front of scouts. BSC does not get any fee but DC United wants $50k from Tottenham.

Who is going to get the nod? You can replace BSC with Achilles, Armour, Arlington, etc. Based on the details in this conversation, if my kid is approached by a MLS academy, I may try to determine what they would like me to pay as the "cost of his training" in order to maintain his right to transition for free. This is business and negotiations and it does not hurt to have these conversations.

PP mentioned "legitimate" academy. The most "likely" route for most Americans will be a Category 2 academy per the UK system or equivalent in other countries and then work your way up. That is how many of the current Americans have done it. It feels like we forget the word, development, and think everybody is supposed to be a can't miss prospect.

Smart and logical thinking. This is exactly.how to approach it and exactly the analysis that would be done with two equal players. Not the only way but a really good way of thinking. You clearly get it.

Or you could ask DCU if you could just be a future player and still play with your existing club. You get the best of both clubs and retain your rights. You train and sometimes play with DCU and you can also play with you local P2P. To me, this is the best path at DCU given how poor of an academy it is.

I would make sure that this setup also means they can’t put you on their protected list.

Good call. But that is only really relevant for a transfer within the MLS.

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.

Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.

Can you tell us the level of this Spanish academy
Is it a La Liga Pro Club academy and if yes, how did he get to play with them not having a European passport?

Is BSC helping with the effort? Just wondering if local DMV clubs are actively working to help players avoid DCU academy and get recruited elsewhere.

You are asking if local P2P clubs are assisting players to make in-roads into legitimate European academies?

NO!

Avoid the MLS Pro Academy in a desire to find a path to professional academy in Europe?
Nonsense.

You think Athletic Bilbao knows and acknowledges Bethesda over DC United?
Get serious people.

We will skip over the Athletic Bilbao reference as I have only met one person here in the State from the Basque Country who would qualify to play for them.

Let's say you have two kids, one from BSC and one from DCU, trialing with Tottenham. Both equal players and have shown equally in front of scouts. BSC does not get any fee but DC United wants $50k from Tottenham.

Who is going to get the nod? You can replace BSC with Achilles, Armour, Arlington, etc. Based on the details in this conversation, if my kid is approached by a MLS academy, I may try to determine what they would like me to pay as the "cost of his training" in order to maintain his right to transition for free. This is business and negotiations and it does not hurt to have these conversations.

PP mentioned "legitimate" academy. The most "likely" route for most Americans will be a Category 2 academy per the UK system or equivalent in other countries and then work your way up. That is how many of the current Americans have done it. It feels like we forget the word, development, and think everybody is supposed to be a can't miss prospect.

Smart and logical thinking. This is exactly.how to approach it and exactly the analysis that would be done with two equal players. Not the only way but a really good way of thinking. You clearly get it.

You guys are saying the pathway to pursue a professional soccer career in Europe with the highest probability of success is to go the Pay-to-Play route versus being a standout player at a professional club academy?

Cavan Sullivan would have been better off at FC Delco or PA Classics than Philadelphia Union?

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.

Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.

Can you tell us the level of this Spanish academy
Is it a La Liga Pro Club academy and if yes, how did he get to play with them not having a European passport?

Is BSC helping with the effort? Just wondering if local DMV clubs are actively working to help players avoid DCU academy and get recruited elsewhere.

You are asking if local P2P clubs are assisting players to make in-roads into legitimate European academies?

NO!

Avoid the MLS Pro Academy in a desire to find a path to professional academy in Europe?
Nonsense.

You think Athletic Bilbao knows and acknowledges Bethesda over DC United?
Get serious people.

We will skip over the Athletic Bilbao reference as I have only met one person here in the State from the Basque Country who would qualify to play for them.

Let's say you have two kids, one from BSC and one from DCU, trialing with Tottenham. Both equal players and have shown equally in front of scouts. BSC does not get any fee but DC United wants $50k from Tottenham.

Who is going to get the nod? You can replace BSC with Achilles, Armour, Arlington, etc. Based on the details in this conversation, if my kid is approached by a MLS academy, I may try to determine what they would like me to pay as the "cost of his training" in order to maintain his right to transition for free. This is business and negotiations and it does not hurt to have these conversations.

PP mentioned "legitimate" academy. The most "likely" route for most Americans will be a Category 2 academy per the UK system or equivalent in other countries and then work your way up. That is how many of the current Americans have done it. It feels like we forget the word, development, and think everybody is supposed to be a can't miss prospect.

Smart and logical thinking. This is exactly.how to approach it and exactly the analysis that would be done with two equal players. Not the only way but a really good way of thinking. You clearly get it.

You guys are saying the pathway to pursue a professional soccer career in Europe with the highest probability of success is to go the Pay-to-Play route versus being a standout player at a professional club academy?

Cavan Sullivan would have been better off at FC Delco or PA Classics than Philadelphia Union?

A standout like Cavan would be in Europe by now instead of waiting until he was 18. I don’t understand why they just won’t send him there alrdy since he does have an EU passport.

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.

Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.

Can you tell us the level of this Spanish academy
Is it a La Liga Pro Club academy and if yes, how did he get to play with them not having a European passport?

Is BSC helping with the effort? Just wondering if local DMV clubs are actively working to help players avoid DCU academy and get recruited elsewhere.

You are asking if local P2P clubs are assisting players to make in-roads into legitimate European academies?

NO!

Avoid the MLS Pro Academy in a desire to find a path to professional academy in Europe?
Nonsense.

You think Athletic Bilbao knows and acknowledges Bethesda over DC United?
Get serious people.

We will skip over the Athletic Bilbao reference as I have only met one person here in the State from the Basque Country who would qualify to play for them.

Let's say you have two kids, one from BSC and one from DCU, trialing with Tottenham. Both equal players and have shown equally in front of scouts. BSC does not get any fee but DC United wants $50k from Tottenham.

Who is going to get the nod? You can replace BSC with Achilles, Armour, Arlington, etc. Based on the details in this conversation, if my kid is approached by a MLS academy, I may try to determine what they would like me to pay as the "cost of his training" in order to maintain his right to transition for free. This is business and negotiations and it does not hurt to have these conversations.

PP mentioned "legitimate" academy. The most "likely" route for most Americans will be a Category 2 academy per the UK system or equivalent in other countries and then work your way up. That is how many of the current Americans have done it. It feels like we forget the word, development, and think everybody is supposed to be a can't miss prospect.

Smart and logical thinking. This is exactly.how to approach it and exactly the analysis that would be done with two equal players. Not the only way but a really good way of thinking. You clearly get it.

You guys are saying the pathway to pursue a professional soccer career in Europe with the highest probability of success is to go the Pay-to-Play route versus being a standout player at a professional club academy?

Cavan Sullivan would have been better off at FC Delco or PA Classics than Philadelphia Union?

I think there are quite a few DCU homegrown players who would have been better going off to Europe instead of affiliating with DCU. Kristian Fletcher for example. He needs to leave DCU while he’s still young and as soon as he recovers from injury.

There are a few players now at the academy that prob should jump ship alrdy esp if they have an EU passport. But don’t think DCU will let them go without some compensation

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.

Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.

Can you tell us the level of this Spanish academy
Is it a La Liga Pro Club academy and if yes, how did he get to play with them not having a European passport?

Is BSC helping with the effort? Just wondering if local DMV clubs are actively working to help players avoid DCU academy and get recruited elsewhere.

You are asking if local P2P clubs are assisting players to make in-roads into legitimate European academies?

NO!

Avoid the MLS Pro Academy in a desire to find a path to professional academy in Europe?
Nonsense.

You think Athletic Bilbao knows and acknowledges Bethesda over DC United?
Get serious people.

We will skip over the Athletic Bilbao reference as I have only met one person here in the State from the Basque Country who would qualify to play for them.

Let's say you have two kids, one from BSC and one from DCU, trialing with Tottenham. Both equal players and have shown equally in front of scouts. BSC does not get any fee but DC United wants $50k from Tottenham.

Who is going to get the nod? You can replace BSC with Achilles, Armour, Arlington, etc. Based on the details in this conversation, if my kid is approached by a MLS academy, I may try to determine what they would like me to pay as the "cost of his training" in order to maintain his right to transition for free. This is business and negotiations and it does not hurt to have these conversations.

PP mentioned "legitimate" academy. The most "likely" route for most Americans will be a Category 2 academy per the UK system or equivalent in other countries and then work your way up. That is how many of the current Americans have done it. It feels like we forget the word, development, and think everybody is supposed to be a can't miss prospect.

Smart and logical thinking. This is exactly.how to approach it and exactly the analysis that would be done with two equal players. Not the only way but a really good way of thinking. You clearly get it.

You guys are saying the pathway to pursue a professional soccer career in Europe with the highest probability of success is to go the Pay-to-Play route versus being a standout player at a professional club academy?

Cavan Sullivan would have been better off at FC Delco or PA Classics than Philadelphia Union?

Nobody is saying that. C’ mon guy. No need to respond to you because this is not common sense.

For the rational and sane parents not looking for an irrational argument to fill their empty void, you have options. Educate yourself before you blindly sign away your rights to a MLS academy if you have a talented kid that may be looking for a route overseas. Higher a lawyer, understand the transfer rules and make the best decision for you and your family.

THERE IS NO ONE ROUTE!

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.

Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.

Can you tell us the level of this Spanish academy
Is it a La Liga Pro Club academy and if yes, how did he get to play with them not having a European passport?

Is BSC helping with the effort? Just wondering if local DMV clubs are actively working to help players avoid DCU academy and get recruited elsewhere.

You are asking if local P2P clubs are assisting players to make in-roads into legitimate European academies?

NO!

Avoid the MLS Pro Academy in a desire to find a path to professional academy in Europe?
Nonsense.

You think Athletic Bilbao knows and acknowledges Bethesda over DC United?
Get serious people.

We will skip over the Athletic Bilbao reference as I have only met one person here in the State from the Basque Country who would qualify to play for them.

Let's say you have two kids, one from BSC and one from DCU, trialing with Tottenham. Both equal players and have shown equally in front of scouts. BSC does not get any fee but DC United wants $50k from Tottenham.

Who is going to get the nod? You can replace BSC with Achilles, Armour, Arlington, etc. Based on the details in this conversation, if my kid is approached by a MLS academy, I may try to determine what they would like me to pay as the "cost of his training" in order to maintain his right to transition for free. This is business and negotiations and it does not hurt to have these conversations.

PP mentioned "legitimate" academy. The most "likely" route for most Americans will be a Category 2 academy per the UK system or equivalent in other countries and then work your way up. That is how many of the current Americans have done it. It feels like we forget the word, development, and think everybody is supposed to be a can't miss prospect.

Smart and logical thinking. This is exactly.how to approach it and exactly the analysis that would be done with two equal players. Not the only way but a really good way of thinking. You clearly get it.

You guys are saying the pathway to pursue a professional soccer career in Europe with the highest probability of success is to go the Pay-to-Play route versus being a standout player at a professional club academy?

Cavan Sullivan would have been better off at FC Delco or PA Classics than Philadelphia Union?

A standout like Cavan would be in Europe by now instead of waiting until he was 18. I don’t understand why they just won’t send him there alrdy since he does have an EU passport.

I was wondering the same thing. This post as least gives a plausible explanation as to why. I also thought he is too big of a name to get cute in front of FIFA.

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.

Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.

Can you tell us the level of this Spanish academy
Is it a La Liga Pro Club academy and if yes, how did he get to play with them not having a European passport?

Is BSC helping with the effort? Just wondering if local DMV clubs are actively working to help players avoid DCU academy and get recruited elsewhere.

You are asking if local P2P clubs are assisting players to make in-roads into legitimate European academies?

NO!

Avoid the MLS Pro Academy in a desire to find a path to professional academy in Europe?
Nonsense.

You think Athletic Bilbao knows and acknowledges Bethesda over DC United?
Get serious people.

We will skip over the Athletic Bilbao reference as I have only met one person here in the State from the Basque Country who would qualify to play for them.

Let's say you have two kids, one from BSC and one from DCU, trialing with Tottenham. Both equal players and have shown equally in front of scouts. BSC does not get any fee but DC United wants $50k from Tottenham.

Who is going to get the nod? You can replace BSC with Achilles, Armour, Arlington, etc. Based on the details in this conversation, if my kid is approached by a MLS academy, I may try to determine what they would like me to pay as the "cost of his training" in order to maintain his right to transition for free. This is business and negotiations and it does not hurt to have these conversations.

PP mentioned "legitimate" academy. The most "likely" route for most Americans will be a Category 2 academy per the UK system or equivalent in other countries and then work your way up. That is how many of the current Americans have done it. It feels like we forget the word, development, and think everybody is supposed to be a can't miss prospect.

Smart and logical thinking. This is exactly.how to approach it and exactly the analysis that would be done with two equal players. Not the only way but a really good way of thinking. You clearly get it.

You guys are saying the pathway to pursue a professional soccer career in Europe with the highest probability of success is to go the Pay-to-Play route versus being a standout player at a professional club academy?

Cavan Sullivan would have been better off at FC Delco or PA Classics than Philadelphia Union?

Nobody is saying that. C’ mon guy. No need to respond to you because this is not common sense.

For the rational and sane parents not looking for an irrational argument to fill their empty void, you have options. Educate yourself before you blindly sign away your rights to a MLS academy if you have a talented kid that may be looking for a route overseas. Higher a lawyer, understand the transfer rules and make the best decision for you and your family.

THERE IS NO ONE ROUTE!

Where is the insinuation that there's only one route?

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord, who gives a shit. What the hell does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Need a sidebar guys? And for the record, yes, you can play if you have a citizenship pathway and meet the other criteria, it’s a lot easier than not being a passport holder. Everyone is quibbling over the stupidest little silly details just to pretend you know something about this or will ever have a chance of having to need to know these rules.

Uhm… I give a $#!+. My son is on a BSC 1st team and I am trying to avoid DCU at all costs for other options.

I am sorry if you think BSC is going down but this is a relevant topic to those kids who actually have kids who are good.

My kid has already played in a Spanish academy and been invited to train with a German academy through local coaching contacts in the mid-Atlantic. There is not a major difference between our kids and EU kids at the younger ages. They separate by the age of 15 and if my kid does not have to lose ground, I would like to learn how.

This conversation is probably only relevant for 10-20 kids in the DMV who have kids passionate enough and a family who will actually support the passion. I would suggest you find another troll post to scheme off as this is actually the most productive conversation on DCUM in while. Tons of gossip posts about school year and irrelevant crap to get your fix in.

Can you tell us the level of this Spanish academy
Is it a La Liga Pro Club academy and if yes, how did he get to play with them not having a European passport?

Is BSC helping with the effort? Just wondering if local DMV clubs are actively working to help players avoid DCU academy and get recruited elsewhere.

You are asking if local P2P clubs are assisting players to make in-roads into legitimate European academies?

NO!

Avoid the MLS Pro Academy in a desire to find a path to professional academy in Europe?
Nonsense.

You think Athletic Bilbao knows and acknowledges Bethesda over DC United?
Get serious people.

We will skip over the Athletic Bilbao reference as I have only met one person here in the State from the Basque Country who would qualify to play for them.

Let's say you have two kids, one from BSC and one from DCU, trialing with Tottenham. Both equal players and have shown equally in front of scouts. BSC does not get any fee but DC United wants $50k from Tottenham.

Who is going to get the nod? You can replace BSC with Achilles, Armour, Arlington, etc. Based on the details in this conversation, if my kid is approached by a MLS academy, I may try to determine what they would like me to pay as the "cost of his training" in order to maintain his right to transition for free. This is business and negotiations and it does not hurt to have these conversations.

PP mentioned "legitimate" academy. The most "likely" route for most Americans will be a Category 2 academy per the UK system or equivalent in other countries and then work your way up. That is how many of the current Americans have done it. It feels like we forget the word, development, and think everybody is supposed to be a can't miss prospect.

Smart and logical thinking. This is exactly.how to approach it and exactly the analysis that would be done with two equal players. Not the only way but a really good way of thinking. You clearly get it.

You guys are saying the pathway to pursue a professional soccer career in Europe with the highest probability of success is to go the Pay-to-Play route versus being a standout player at a professional club academy?

Cavan Sullivan would have been better off at FC Delco or PA Classics than Philadelphia Union?

Nobody is saying that. C’ mon guy. No need to respond to you because this is not common sense.

For the rational and sane parents not looking for an irrational argument to fill their empty void, you have options. Educate yourself before you blindly sign away your rights to a MLS academy if you have a talented kid that may be looking for a route overseas. Higher a lawyer, understand the transfer rules and make the best decision for you and your family.

THERE IS NO ONE ROUTE!

Where is the insinuation that there's only one route?

Then the question is stupid if the poster knows anything about Cavan’s background and designed for argumentative purposes versus exploring the best ways for kids to develop.

Pick one. Trivial and argumentative and stupid and uneducated.

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I'm kinda feeling like this conversation (though quite interesting) is moving fairly off topic... I don't mean BSC bashing, but I use this thread for general BSC info.

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The only way to make it to Europe - assuming your kid is very good - is to surround your kid by coaches who care and who have pro connections, as well as understanding the system and navigating it accordingly. Like any other business transaction you need to develop the appropriate connections for your kid to be seen by the right people. It’s not just luck. You need to do the legwork. Not being part of an mls club is a plus unless you are willing to pay the transfer from your own pocket. There are several stories of DCU kids being f** over because of this. Having an European passport definitely helps because it makes it easier for the European club.

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Anonymous wrote:The only way to make it to Europe - assuming your kid is very good - is to surround your kid by coaches who care and who have pro connections, as well as understanding the system and navigating it accordingly. Like any other business transaction you need to develop the appropriate connections for your kid to be seen by the right people. It’s not just luck. You need to do the legwork. Not being part of an mls club is a plus unless you are willing to pay the transfer from your own pocket. There are several stories of DCU kids being f** over because of this. Having an European passport definitely helps because it makes it easier for the European club.

Not being part of a mls club professional academy is a plus, except the fact that almost all American players without European passports went to Professional european clubs from MLS club academies

Now here comes someone to list the one or two outliers

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Anonymous wrote:The only way to make it to Europe - assuming your kid is very good - is to surround your kid by coaches who care and who have pro connections, as well as understanding the system and navigating it accordingly. Like any other business transaction you need to develop the appropriate connections for your kid to be seen by the right people. It’s not just luck. You need to do the legwork. Not being part of an mls club is a plus unless you are willing to pay the transfer from your own pocket. There are several stories of DCU kids being f** over because of this. Having an European passport definitely helps because it makes it easier for the European club.

Not being part of a mls club professional academy is a plus, except the fact that almost all American players without European passports went to Professional european clubs from MLS club academies

Now here comes someone to list the one or two outliers

I agree with this. If EU passport, the decision to forgo MLS academies would be easier to make.

But if a player does not have one, player should still go to the best MLS academy that will take them.

Of course a player can still avoid MLS academies and I know of a few families who are going to try it this way but it seems like a really uphill climb - the kind that requires everyone in the family to sacrifice.

As a PP mentioned, even with an EU passport, moving to Europe becomes an easier decision only if the player is an only child or when they get older (13+). It’s very disruptive and extreme to uproot families and careers for one kids soccer potential!