VYS Soccer - better or worse?

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Anonymous wrote:I watched a few of the Eagles’ State cup/ tournament games recently.
Compared the the Phoenix teams, the lack of passing creativity was apparent. I think I saw only two “1-2s” passing combos.
Very surprising since my DD’s team lives by these combos.
Though,will add that they did win one of the games.

This is expected at VYS.
Girls have a strong program and boys' program is all over the place.

Boys' U14 and up is a true CF.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree Arlington > McLean. I have 4 kids playing travel soccer and have 1 at Arlington, 2 at McLean. The feedback from coaches and interest in players as individuals is unmatched. I don't feel afraid to talk to any of the Arlington coaches whereas McLean has a system in place where you never approach a coach. Also Arlington older teams practice 4 times a week, McLean only 3. Arlington games are videotaped and coaches go over game film with the kids. At McLean you have to video your own kid. Theres no way the coaches are going to be able to talk to the kids on the team because there are 24 kids on my daughters team and my son has 33 on his. The roster issues are not just a girls side issue.

You are in the right demographic for both clubs. I am pretty certain you don’t have a clue about what good coaching or development actually is, but you have explained very well the differences between two clubs with bloated reputations who cannot develop anybody well at younger ages. My kid could make top team at each of these clubs, and both would be closer, but there is no way my kid would ever want to play for either based on what we have seen from these clubs and top teams over the past five years.

If your kid could make the top team at Arlington and you are denying him that opportunity, you are doing your son a disservice.

NP: Not necessarily. They had 22 kids on the roster and guest play kids up from the Red team on top of it. My kids wants to play.

Is it possible you you misunderstood the situation and/or it wasn't explained to you clearly?

1. I can't swear to every age group - but I'm familiar with most of them and I'm just about certain that the 22 number would have included the red team kids. The Arlington rosters are typically 19-20 kids (20 is the most my son has ever seen in his time with the club, and it was as few as 17 one year) + they roster 3-4 kids from the red team as well. The red team kids get to practise with the first team once a week, and they might get a very occasional game here or there - likely a scrimmage, but - in my experience - they're lucky if they get on a gameday roster (including scrimmages) twice in a year and then only when injuries to regulars permit. And I can only remember a red team kid getting on the gameday roster once in a situation where that meant that a healthy regular had to sit.

The exception to this is at the age group (U12? - too long ago for me to remember I'm afraid) where they play two games on half fields and the roster can be a bit larger because a lot more kids are on the field.

2. Gameday rosters are 18 kids which, with injuries and absences, means that most weeks no-one healthy sits out, but occasionally one kid has to sit and very occasionally two kids have to sit. Thus far, I have never seen this be anything other than a rotation with even the top kids missing games when it's their turn - although it's pretty clear that things are arranged such that the top kids' turns coincide with easy games.

3. On gameday, the Arlington coaches make sure everyone gets playing time. There are always two goalkeepers on the gameday roster and they play a half each. That leaves 16 outfield players to split 20 halves between them. In several years, I have never seen a situation where a kid did not play at all and it is very, very rare where every kid does not get at least a half. I have seen this happen only a handful of times in several years and about half of those were the coach being careful with a kid returning from injury. Most of the rest were important games - e.g. league deciders / tournament finals and even then the kid in question still got about twenty minutes of playing time.

In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

Well, since this is a VYS thread, I can say as a parent of multiple VYS players (some on the top travel teams, some not) that VYS also makes sure each player receives roughly equal playing time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

Well, since this is a VYS thread, I can say as a parent of multiple VYS players (some on the top travel teams, some not) that VYS also makes sure each player receives roughly equal playing time.

Yep - sorry. Didn't mean to imply that there weren't teams that were just as good as Arlington - there are. In my experience, most clubs/teams are pretty good about this. It's just that some - more than a handful but definitely less than half - are not.

And in particular there are a couple of clubs which are notorious for stuffing their rosters with far too many kids (cough, cough McLean, Loudoun) to give the kids enough playing time. I just wanted to make the point that Arlington was not one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

Well, since this is a VYS thread, I can say as a parent of multiple VYS players (some on the top travel teams, some not) that VYS also makes sure each player receives roughly equal playing time.

You are very lucky. This is not true for my kid's team.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

Well, since this is a VYS thread, I can say as a parent of multiple VYS players (some on the top travel teams, some not) that VYS also makes sure each player receives roughly equal playing time.

You are very lucky. This is not true for my kid's team.

Move. Per above - more clubs than not are good about this. If you are at one of then ones that is not, then you should move your kid. Not good enough -> No playing time is a vicious circle and no fun for anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

Well, since this is a VYS thread, I can say as a parent of multiple VYS players (some on the top travel teams, some not) that VYS also makes sure each player receives roughly equal playing time.

You are very lucky. This is not true for my kid's team.

Move. Per above - more clubs than not are good about this. If you are at one of then ones that is not, then you should move your kid. Not good enough -> No playing time is a vicious circle and no fun for anyone.

Yep, bags have been packed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

Well, since this is a VYS thread, I can say as a parent of multiple VYS players (some on the top travel teams, some not) that VYS also makes sure each player receives roughly equal playing time.

You are very lucky. This is not true for my kid's team.

What club?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

Well, since this is a VYS thread, I can say as a parent of multiple VYS players (some on the top travel teams, some not) that VYS also makes sure each player receives roughly equal playing time.

You are very lucky. This is not true for my kid's team.

What club?

McLean. 27 on the team

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Anonymous wrote:In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

Well, since this is a VYS thread, I can say as a parent of multiple VYS players (some on the top travel teams, some not) that VYS also makes sure each player receives roughly equal playing time.

You are very lucky. This is not true for my kid's team.

What club?

McLean. 27 on the team

Yeesh. That's a lot. I hope your player finds more playing time and enjoyment elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

Well, since this is a VYS thread, I can say as a parent of multiple VYS players (some on the top travel teams, some not) that VYS also makes sure each player receives roughly equal playing time.

You are very lucky. This is not true for my kid's team.

What club?

McLean. 27 on the team

Yep. McLean probably the worst for this - at least in this area. 27 kids on a roster - how on earth does that work for anyone? Except the club bank balance of course.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

Well, since this is a VYS thread, I can say as a parent of multiple VYS players (some on the top travel teams, some not) that VYS also makes sure each player receives roughly equal playing time.

You are very lucky. This is not true for my kid's team.

What club?

VYS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

Well, since this is a VYS thread, I can say as a parent of multiple VYS players (some on the top travel teams, some not) that VYS also makes sure each player receives roughly equal playing time.

You are very lucky. This is not true for my kid's team.

What club?

VYS

What age group?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

Well, since this is a VYS thread, I can say as a parent of multiple VYS players (some on the top travel teams, some not) that VYS also makes sure each player receives roughly equal playing time.

You are very lucky. This is not true for my kid's team.

What club?

McLean. 27 on the team

This is the same as Arlington, 20 kids rostered to ECNL, then 7 kids dual rostered to Green/ECNL. The dual roster players practice once a week with the ECNL team and get called up for the occasional scrimmage or game, but these players get game time on their Green teams.

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Anonymous wrote:In my view there is no club that any of my several kids have played with (6 different clubs), nor any of the other top programs in the area, that does a better job of ensuring playing time for everyone than Arlington's academy teams.

Well, since this is a VYS thread, I can say as a parent of multiple VYS players (some on the top travel teams, some not) that VYS also makes sure each player receives roughly equal playing time.

You are very lucky. This is not true for my kid's team.

What club?

VYS

What age group?

Guess.