Another gunman, another elementary school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

Nope. Only one side does this.

I’m so sick and tired of the “gotcha” mentality. Why don’t we focus on common ground

When they know they’ve lost.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

Nope. Only one side does this.

I’m so sick and tired of the “gotcha” mentality. Why don’t we focus on common ground

Americans have common ground. But Republicans in office repeatedly refuse to enact legislation that respects the will of the clear majority of Americans. Republican officials. So, if you vote Republican officials into office, and you sincerely want sensible gun laws in place, then you have to stop putting Republicans in office.

No Senator represents all Americans. And the 11 smallest states combined have the same number of people as Los Angeles County. So 22 Senators elected mainly by gun nuts, and LA County, which doesn't even get 2 Senators itself.

The only pro gun control states in those 11 are RI, DE, and HI.

Even though the RI congressional delegation would vote for gun reform, at the state level in an overwhelmingly blue state with a dem governor we are facing gridlock. The RI dem party is blaming republicans while dem leadership (A rating from the NRA) won't let gun reform bills have a floor vote.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

I think I’ve been missing some news reports you have been watching. Everyone always agrees this should never happen again. That’s not the problem. The problem is how you go about stopping it. All I’ve been seeing is the gun nuts saying more defensive measures and armed guards are needed at ‘soft targets’ (aka - every single public space in the entire country).

Plenty of people say mass shootings are horrible but are the cost of preventing tyranny by having an armed populace.

And a lot of the people who say that get a lot of representation in the Senate.

Tyranny is when the majority is ruled by a minority opinion. Tyranny is when we are unable to feel safe in a public place.

Exactly

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t help anyway. All evidence suggests resource officers don’t want to engage active shooters. So we don’t need them - waste of money.

Then use police officers.

Police weren't much help in this case, were they?

One of my good friends is a police officer. He says it's divided: half of the officers say they would wait around as they did in Texas to form a plan and wait for additional backup. The other half say no, you swore an oath, you go in there even if you are going to die because at least it gives the people you are sworn to protect a chance.

I'm not willing to take that 50/50 gamble with my children's lives. Are you?

This is illogical.

You actually are saying, like in an active shooter situation, YOU DONT WANT POLICE???? YOU WOULDNT CALL FREAKING 9-1-1????? Who would you call - Ghostbusters? Social worker?

Please, walk me through who will respond to an active shooter situation in your world. Who would be the person to handle it? Or would you suggest everybody just pray and do nothing while a shooter mows down kids

Call them why? So they can stand outside for 45-60 mins and taser parents who tried to do their job for them?

Seriously. I cannot imagine the pain those parents felt, standing outside the place where their children were frightened, trying not to cry out for their parents while they were being gunned down. You’d have to tase and handcuff me not to go in there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

Nope. Only one side does this.

I’m so sick and tired of the “gotcha” mentality. Why don’t we focus on common ground

Americans have common ground. But Republicans in office repeatedly refuse to enact legislation that respects the will of the clear majority of Americans. Republican officials. So, if you vote Republican officials into office, and you sincerely want sensible gun laws in place, then you have to stop putting Republicans in office.

No Senator represents all Americans. And the 11 smallest states combined have the same number of people as Los Angeles County. So 22 Senators elected mainly by gun nuts, and LA County, which doesn't even get 2 Senators itself.

The only pro gun control states in those 11 are RI, DE, and HI.

Tell me you don’t know how the Senate works without telling me you don’t know how the Senate works.

Did you fail civics in high school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

Nope. Only one side does this.

I’m so sick and tired of the “gotcha” mentality. Why don’t we focus on common ground

Americans have common ground. But Republicans in office repeatedly refuse to enact legislation that respects the will of the clear majority of Americans. Republican officials. So, if you vote Republican officials into office, and you sincerely want sensible gun laws in place, then you have to stop putting Republicans in office.

No Senator represents all Americans. And the 11 smallest states combined have the same number of people as Los Angeles County. So 22 Senators elected mainly by gun nuts, and LA County, which doesn't even get 2 Senators itself.

The only pro gun control states in those 11 are RI, DE, and HI.

Tell me you don’t know how the Senate works without telling me you don’t know how the Senate works.

Did you fail civics in high school?

The poster is not wrong that the Senate gives outsized power to rural states with low populations, many of whom only have 1 congressperson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

Nope. Only one side does this.

I’m so sick and tired of the “gotcha” mentality. Why don’t we focus on common ground

Americans have common ground. But Republicans in office repeatedly refuse to enact legislation that respects the will of the clear majority of Americans. Republican officials. So, if you vote Republican officials into office, and you sincerely want sensible gun laws in place, then you have to stop putting Republicans in office.

No Senator represents all Americans. And the 11 smallest states combined have the same number of people as Los Angeles County. So 22 Senators elected mainly by gun nuts, and LA County, which doesn't even get 2 Senators itself.

The only pro gun control states in those 11 are RI, DE, and HI.

Tell me you don’t know how the Senate works without telling me you don’t know how the Senate works.

Did you fail civics in high school?

DP.

The Senate doesn't have representation that is proportional to the population. That's the point of it -- it represents states as wholes, regardless of population.

Nothing PP said is wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

I remember when you wrote this after Columbine. And Virginia Tech. And Sandy Hook. And Parkland.

So yeah, it’s a coping mechanism.

Nothing will change.

Just re-set the “Days since a school shooting” calendar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

Nope. Only one side does this.

I’m so sick and tired of the “gotcha” mentality. Why don’t we focus on common ground

Let me guess. It’s too soon to talk about this, right? Not the right time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The funerals of those poor children are going to be heartbreaking.

Our country is such a pathetic embarrassment.

I don't know - maybe it is a coping mechanism but I see hope for our country in the way that people from all over the political spectrum are in agreement this can never happen again. The usual suspects on both sides will try to divide us for their own benefit and distract us from the real issues - but I think there is a real momentum for change that the politicians are going to have to respond to. Bringing back the assault weapon ban would pass by a landslide right now if put to the vote. We have midterms coming.

Nope. Only one side does this.

I’m so sick and tired of the “gotcha” mentality. Why don’t we focus on common ground

Americans have common ground. But Republicans in office repeatedly refuse to enact legislation that respects the will of the clear majority of Americans. Republican officials. So, if you vote Republican officials into office, and you sincerely want sensible gun laws in place, then you have to stop putting Republicans in office.

No Senator represents all Americans. And the 11 smallest states combined have the same number of people as Los Angeles County. So 22 Senators elected mainly by gun nuts, and LA County, which doesn't even get 2 Senators itself.

The only pro gun control states in those 11 are RI, DE, and HI.

Tell me you don’t know how the Senate works without telling me you don’t know how the Senate works.

Did you fail civics in high school?

You apparently did.

[Anonymous]

How can gun-lovers reconcile what’s happening to our children? Nothing is worth this. Nothing.

[Anonymous]

I am not a wealthy human but I can spare $25 a month to Everytown. I just signed up for automatic donation because I know I’ll get complacent.

Please join me. Everytown and Brady seem to have the most power. Even $10 a month helps.

[Anonymous]

Ugh. The last video as a girl is being carried out. And the parents yelling.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/05/28/us/school-shooting-timeline-uvalde-texas.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not a wealthy human but I can spare $25 a month to Everytown. I just signed up for automatic donation because I know I’ll get complacent.

Please join me. Everytown and Brady seem to have the most power. Even $10 a month helps.

+1. I just did the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t help anyway. All evidence suggests resource officers don’t want to engage active shooters. So we don’t need them - waste of money.

Then use police officers.

Police weren't much help in this case, were they?

One of my good friends is a police officer. He says it's divided: half of the officers say they would wait around as they did in Texas to form a plan and wait for additional backup. The other half say no, you swore an oath, you go in there even if you are going to die because at least it gives the people you are sworn to protect a chance.

I'm not willing to take that 50/50 gamble with my children's lives. Are you?

This is illogical.

You actually are saying, like in an active shooter situation, YOU DONT WANT POLICE???? YOU WOULDNT CALL FREAKING 9-1-1????? Who would you call - Ghostbusters? Social worker?

Please, walk me through who will respond to an active shooter situation in your world. Who would be the person to handle it? Or would you suggest everybody just pray and do nothing while a shooter mows down kids

What’s illogical about it?

People are saying instead of gun reform, we just need armed security and police officers in schools.

But we now know that many of those police and guards won’t do anything in the event of a shooter. Many will bail or just wait around, as was the case in Texas.

I’m not sure where you got the idea I wouldn’t call 9-1-1. I said I don’t think police officers in schools are a solution, because most are proving to be useless.

The answer is gun reform. Our children will be safer when people don’t have access to these guns, not when we put armed police in schools.