David Starkey on British riots "The whites have become black"

[Anonymous]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVq2bs8M9HM

[Anonymous]

I think Starkey is misplaced. He has apparently forgotten about Hooliganism, the Poll Tax Riots, etc. Rioting is not part of black culture anymore than white culture. It is part of the culture of segregation, inequality, and injustice. That does not excuse riots, but it's hard to find examples of rioting in communities with good economies and tolerance of its constituent groups.

[takoma]

What a pompous bigot Starkey is. He seems unaware, despite its being pointed out by the others, that he keeps talking as though Britain is made up of us (educated, white) and them (blacks, troublemakers).

There is hardly a time when one of the others speaks without Starkey interrupting, but when he speaks, he has the gall to say "If you will just stop interrupting."

[Anonymous]

I think he makes a good point. The stereotypical "gangsta" culture, so glorified by pop culture (music and movies) has become trendy. That is what he meant when he said "whites have become black". He shouldnt have put it the way he did, blaming a race, but instead he should have blamed the deteriorating pop culture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think he makes a good point. The stereotypical "gangsta" culture, so glorified by pop culture (music and movies) has become trendy. That is what he meant when he said "whites have become black". He shouldnt have put it the way he did, blaming a race, but instead he should have blamed the deteriorating pop culture.

And who exactly are "Gangstas" imitating? White people.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, all those Blacks in Goodfellow and Godfather. Who were they portraying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all those Blacks in Goodfellow and Godfather. Who were they portraying.

the gangsta culture is not the gangster culture. hang out in SE DC and get back to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all those Blacks in Goodfellow and Godfather. Who were they portraying.

the gangsta culture is not the gangster culture. hang out in SE DC and get back to me.

Yeah, it's a total coincidence that Irv Gotti, Capone, Wu Gambinos, and Scarface are names of rappers, Biggie Smalls sometimes called himself Frank White, Goodfellas is the name of a rap album, ... do I need to keep doing this?

[Anonymous]

The evil unleashed on blacks now reflecting back came from somewhere. From the original white devils who took what was not theirs. There will be no peace without justice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all those Blacks in Goodfellow and Godfather. Who were they portraying.

the gangsta culture is not the gangster culture. hang out in SE DC and get back to me.

Yeah, it's a total coincidence that Irv Gotti, Capone, Wu Gambinos, and Scarface are names of rappers, Biggie Smalls sometimes called himself Frank White, Goodfellas is the name of a rap album, ... do I need to keep doing this?

duh, no shit. but do you think the CULTURE of gangsta is the same as reflected in the Godfather. Yes, both are criminals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, all those Blacks in Goodfellow and Godfather. Who were they portraying.

the gangsta culture is not the gangster culture. hang out in SE DC and get back to me.

Yeah, it's a total coincidence that Irv Gotti, Capone, Wu Gambinos, and Scarface are names of rappers, Biggie Smalls sometimes called himself Frank White, Goodfellas is the name of a rap album, ... do I need to keep doing this?

duh, no shit. but do you think the CULTURE of gangsta is the same as reflected in the Godfather. Yes, both are criminals.

Yes, having come from a Sicilian family during the early 1900's in America, the culture is in many ways similar. The social hierarchy, the relationship between gang and community, the reasons and pressures that cause individuals to fall into gangs, the treatment of women, and the outcomes for the low level gangster are very common. If all you see are baggy jeans and braids, then you don't get it.

[Anonymous]

BTW the Godfather and other movies put an unrealistic dignity on life as an American gangster.

[Anonymous]

The Godfather might've been more true pre-Kefauver Commission (and if you notice it was primarily about the highest-ranking mafioso.) Now they want to lay low. Real low. I suspect it's more like The Sopranos now, with worries about health insurance, every other mafioso turning informant, etc.

[Anonymous]

In the mafia movies do these families engage in widespread looting for the hell of it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Yes, having come from a Sicilian family during the early 1900's in America, the culture is in many ways similar. The social hierarchy, the relationship between gang and community, the reasons and pressures that cause individuals to fall into gangs, the treatment of women, and the outcomes for the low level gangster are very common. If all you see are baggy jeans and braids, then you don't get it.

Can you tell me more about the treatment of women?