Getting into St. Albans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Approximately how many Beauvoir 3rd grade boys (fall of 2014) have siblings already at St. Albans?

1) If you are asking this because you are assuming a sib will be an automatic, you are wrong . Often parents will recognize that a sib may not be a good fit and not apply.

2) In addition to the number of Beauvoir boys that you seem intent on quantifying, there will be a number of boys at other schools who are legacies who you can't possibly know unless you know every STA/NCS grad from 1980- 1997, who their kids are and what grade they are in at Horace Mann, Eaton , Janey or Sommerset. If those kids are smart, they are in and there may be a lot of people given economy from 2007 onward who chose ot save 150K by going public for 1st 5 years.

Every year it is about the same: 33+ from Beauvoir and 11+ from elsewhere.

If I read your post correctly, you implied that having a sister at NCS may allow sibling preference for an STA applicant. Did I read that correctly? If so, are you sure. I've heard the opposite is true.

[Anonymous]

No, I said a " legacy" , meaning one's parent went to NCS/ STA. Many STA/NCS alums choose to send their kids to public in ward 3 until STA starts in 4th grade. They save about 150 K-170K in the process. The number of possible legacies is variable and almost inumerable unless you know every parent who may just happen to be an alum from STA or even NCS who has a rising 4th grader.

Maybe having a sib at NCS helps, but if your grandparents sent all of their kids to STA/NCS , gave tens of thousands over the 25-30 years since, that is a strong connection to the community. If the kid is bright, that family need not go to the Beauvoir route. You asked about sibs at Beauvoir; my point is that isn't the only group out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, I said a " legacy" , meaning one's parent went to NCS/ STA. Many STA/NCS alums choose to send their kids to public in ward 3 until STA starts in 4th grade. They save about 150 K-170K in the process. The number of possible legacies is variable and almost inumerable unless you know every parent who may just happen to be an alum from STA or even NCS who has a rising 4th grader.

Maybe having a sib at NCS helps, but if your grandparents sent all of their kids to STA/NCS , gave tens of thousands over the 25-30 years since, that is a strong connection to the community. If the kid is bright, that family need not go to the Beauvoir route. You asked about sibs at Beauvoir; my point is that isn't the only group out there.

This is common at many of the elite private schools. Even the biggest cheerleader for private schools isn't going to argue that the lower schools offer much of an advantage over top public schools. The concern is getting the DC in for middle school or high school. Some families "know" that the door will be open, but many of those families don't have a problem shelling out $30+ K for tuition.

[Anonymous]

Getting into STA? The surest path is to front load all efforts and get the kid into Beauvoir.

[Anonymous]

I am so sorry. I cannot help but be completely devastated when I hear that yet another parents has been fooled by single sex schools. Yes, STA and NCS send more of their students to ivy leagues. But I want you to look at the people they become. I can speak from experience, I have not met one genuinly nice girl or boy from either institution. They value all the wrong things. Its superficial. They memorize material and spit it back to you. Im sorry, I dont understand how that is a good attribute to have.

Additionally, the relationships they obtain with the opposite sex are honestly just appalling. I shudder when thinking of what i have heard STA guys call NCS girls. Its purely sexual. Males are dominant, females accept this culture. When there is a dance its simple: who can go the farthest with the most girls? At STA, this starts at a young age. They do not know any better. As a mother, I dont understand how anyone could EVER send their child to a place where they dont teach equality. Males and females are seperated because males will be distracted. Oh, we cant have the males be distracted! No its all about the males.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so sorry. I cannot help but be completely devastated when I hear that yet another parents has been fooled by single sex schools. Yes, STA and NCS send more of their students to ivy leagues. But I want you to look at the people they become. I can speak from experience, I have not met one genuinly nice girl or boy from either institution. They value all the wrong things. Its superficial. They memorize material and spit it back to you. Im sorry, I dont understand how that is a good attribute to have.

Additionally, the relationships they obtain with the opposite sex are honestly just appalling. I shudder when thinking of what i have heard STA guys call NCS girls. Its purely sexual. Males are dominant, females accept this culture. When there is a dance its simple: who can go the farthest with the most girls? At STA, this starts at a young age. They do not know any better. As a mother, I dont understand how anyone could EVER send their child to a place where they dont teach equality. Males and females are seperated because males will be distracted. Oh, we cant have the males be distracted! No its all about the males.

Any supposed feminist who uses "females" instead of "women"? What an obvious fake, trolling post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so sorry. I cannot help but be completely devastated when I hear that yet another parents has been fooled by single sex schools. Yes, STA and NCS send more of their students to ivy leagues. But I want you to look at the people they become. I can speak from experience, I have not met one genuinly nice girl or boy from either institution. They value all the wrong things. Its superficial. They memorize material and spit it back to you. Im sorry, I dont understand how that is a good attribute to have.

Additionally, the relationships they obtain with the opposite sex are honestly just appalling. I shudder when thinking of what i have heard STA guys call NCS girls. Its purely sexual. Males are dominant, females accept this culture. When there is a dance its simple: who can go the farthest with the most girls? At STA, this starts at a young age. They do not know any better. As a mother, I dont understand how anyone could EVER send their child to a place where they dont teach equality. Males and females are seperated because males will be distracted. Oh, we cant have the males be distracted! No its all about the males.

Any supposed feminist who uses "females" instead of "women"? What an obvious fake, trolling post.

Tend to agree that this was a troll post -- misspellings and rants are too prevalent.

[Anonymous]

I tend to agree that there are plenty of things that are wrong about STA, but its not because its a single-sex school and has a coordinate relationship with NCS. The institution does tend to value the wrong things, but that has more to do with money than sexism. The school rewards those with money, and punishes those on the financial fringe, so to speak. Of course, this is relative as even those on financial aid at STA aren't starving. I'll leave it to others to chime in before elaborating...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I tend to agree that there are plenty of things that are wrong about STA, but its not because its a single-sex school and has a coordinate relationship with NCS. The institution does tend to value the wrong things, but that has more to do with money than sexism. The school rewards those with money, and punishes those on the financial fringe, so to speak. Of course, this is relative as even those on financial aid at STA aren't starving. I'll leave it to others to chime in before elaborating...

Translation:

Imma throw a grenade into the discussion here, but would someone else mind going in and pulling the pin? Thanks in advance!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tend to agree that there are plenty of things that are wrong about STA, but its not because its a single-sex school and has a coordinate relationship with NCS. The institution does tend to value the wrong things, but that has more to do with money than sexism. The school rewards those with money, and punishes those on the financial fringe, so to speak. Of course, this is relative as even those on financial aid at STA aren't starving. I'll leave it to others to chime in before elaborating...

Translation:

Imma throw a grenade into the discussion here, but would someone else mind going in and pulling the pin? Thanks in advance!

This is perhaps the most astute interpretation of an Internet comment that I've ever read. My hat is off to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I tend to agree that there are plenty of things that are wrong about STA, but its not because its a single-sex school and has a coordinate relationship with NCS. The institution does tend to value the wrong things, but that has more to do with money than sexism. The school rewards those with money, and punishes those on the financial fringe, so to speak. Of course, this is relative as even those on financial aid at STA aren't starving. I'll leave it to others to chime in before elaborating...

I don't see this as being the case. AT ALL

[Anonymous]

STA has been an absolutely wonderful place for our son. We have treasured his experience there so far. I think the example set by the teachers and school heads is exactly right - hard work, respect for all, politeness and kindness, while expecting top performance from the boys.

I feel sorry for some of the pps who spew out a bunch of generalized negative nonsense to make themselves feel better. I'm not saying someone couldn't have a genuine concern about STA based on their own experience, but the gross generalized stereotypes above betray their ignorance about the school (and likely indicate the presence of trolls!).

[Anonymous]

What about WISC scores for entry in lower school?

[Anonymous]

Anyone have a son applying for 9th grade? Any sense of what the numbers are looking like?

[Anonymous]

Do you think the new AD will change anything about the profile of the students and families admitted?