FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's an idea. Clean up the identity fraud and combine that data with what enrollments would be if AAP centers and general pupil placement were eliminated. I'm not suggested anything be removed. But how can the country get a true picture of where kids are physically located? Census data? Tax records? You have to find that baseline before looking at moving boundaries.

This makes too much sense.

They really don’t care on getting things right. Just look at how long they’ve neglected McLean HS, yet plan to waste over $80 million on a new and unnecessary Dunn Loring ES. It becomes a power play for them to demonstrate they can do whatever the hell they want, regardless of whether it makes sense.

The only way things will ever get better is if people like Karl Frisch are expelled from public office.

Elections have consequences.

Did any of the candidates get/take any party funding?

School Board elections are nonpartisan (supposedly). So no: no party funding. However,

- the parties issue "endorsements." On the partisan "sample ballots" handed out to everyone outside voting locations, the parties "suggest" what voters should vote for.

Frisch and the other democrats, appeared on the "sample ballots" as democrats. They now have complete single-party rule over FCPS, yet again.

Whatever you feel about their absolute mandate to do whatever they want, is irrelevant. THEY believe they have an absolute mandate, and they act on it.

They do not need to "believe" they have an absolute mandate.

It is a fact that they have an absolute mandate to do whatever they want for whatever reason.

That is what blue no matter who Fairfax County voted for.

You didn't just vote in one party rule, you voted in the extreme fringe one party rule, voting against the reasonable moderate democrat who ran as an independent.

If you vote all blue in local elections, this is 100% on you. You gave them a definitive mandate. They are acting on it.

If you want something different, vote differently next time.

If not, just accept that the school board is going to ignore parent feedback to do whatever they want.

They have a mandate to do just that.

It's funny because in that (IMHO ridiculous because pointless) Hayfield change.org petition the writer keeps talking about "accountability." There's absolutely accountability - vote when the FCDC picks who they endorse for school board. That's when you get to pick the candidate. That's it. That's how you hold these guys accountable - it's how Omeish lost her job, for example.

Of course there are a few catches - like they have to allow you to join and you have to promise to vote for whomever they end up endorsing. It would be better if either 1) VA made it partisan and there was a real open primary just like every other partisan position or 2) VA made it illegal for parties to put non-partisan offices on their sample ballots and did other things to prevent parties from effectively picking the school board themselves in their own smoke-filled back room way in any single party counties in this state (on either side)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how they can redo HS boundaries without a concrete plan for the new Western HS. Could someone ask that at the Westfield meeting?

The western HS is illusory. It is always 10 more years away. They simply don’t know how to take it out of the CIP since some of the land acquisition costs were funded by a prior bond. But they have no site, the overwhelming percentage of the costs are not yet funded, and they’ve continued to expand many of the high schools that serve kids living in the western part of the county.

Of course it’s fair to ask for clarification, but you won’t get a clear answer at the meeting. Ask if they really still plan to build Centreville out to 3000 as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's an idea. Clean up the identity fraud and combine that data with what enrollments would be if AAP centers and general pupil placement were eliminated. I'm not suggested anything be removed. But how can the country get a true picture of where kids are physically located? Census data? Tax records? You have to find that baseline before looking at moving boundaries.

This makes too much sense.

They really don’t care on getting things right. Just look at how long they’ve neglected McLean HS, yet plan to waste over $80 million on a new and unnecessary Dunn Loring ES. It becomes a power play for them to demonstrate they can do whatever the hell they want, regardless of whether it makes sense.

The only way things will ever get better is if people like Karl Frisch are expelled from public office.

Elections have consequences.

Did any of the candidates get/take any party funding?

School Board elections are nonpartisan (supposedly). So no: no party funding. However,

- the parties issue "endorsements." On the partisan "sample ballots" handed out to everyone outside voting locations, the parties "suggest" what voters should vote for.

Frisch and the other democrats, appeared on the "sample ballots" as democrats. They now have complete single-party rule over FCPS, yet again.

Whatever you feel about their absolute mandate to do whatever they want, is irrelevant. THEY believe they have an absolute mandate, and they act on it.

They do not need to "believe" they have an absolute mandate.

It is a fact that they have an absolute mandate to do whatever they want for whatever reason.

That is what blue no matter who Fairfax County voted for.

You didn't just vote in one party rule, you voted in the extreme fringe one party rule, voting against the reasonable moderate democrat who ran as an independent.

If you vote all blue in local elections, this is 100% on you. You gave them a definitive mandate. They are acting on it.

If you want something different, vote differently next time.

If not, just accept that the school board is going to ignore parent feedback to do whatever they want.

They have a mandate to do just that.

This is the reality. With a 12-0 control, there is no real debate or dissenting. Sometimes they disagree with each other at the margins (the handling of the Hayfield situation being an example), but overall they move in lock step on the big stuff.

When it comes to the boundary decisions, there are a few members like McElveen and Moon who appear to have some serious reservations, but they distance themselves rather than really challenge those who want to redraw the boundaries to advance a social agenda.

Nothing will change until there is a very different board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is a non parent on the parent committee? Name the dude.

It’s not just a parent committee. You can join the FairFACTS FB page for more information on the BRAC member who isn’t a parent. They kicked him out of the group because he posted frequently using his real name but then also contacted them repeatedly using a fake name.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are other parents hearing this?

A big FCPS political activist just outed himself as being one of the people "randomly selected" for the parents advisory committee on rezoning.

The activist is a publicly open political activist for lbgtq causes and school board donor, with no children in FCPS. He is one of the people who seems to get a public speaking spot at nearly every school board meeting, in spite of those also designated as "random" selection. He was given one of the limited committee spots on the parent committee, in spite of not being a parent.

This is while FCPS, Reid and the school board are claiming the spots were "randomly" selected from the 1600 parent volunteers.

If the committee is so limited, why was one of the precious spots given to a non parent, political activist with no skin in the game?

Were the rest of the spots given to FCPS school board members' friends, favored activists and donors as a way to rubber stamp the county wide rezoning?

Where is the transparency of this committee?

Where are the meeting minutes and videos of their work?

Why are childless political activists getting spots on the committee, when the spots are so limited?

Does anyone have information to share on the committee and its appointments?

I think you need to read the description of the BRAC more carefully.

It suggests there were 48 randomly selected members, two from each pyramid, and then a number of additional appointed members composed of teachers, staff, and members of other FCPS committees. The total size of the BRAC wasn’t specified.

At the end of the day Reid and the School Board will do what they want to do regardless of the input from the BRAC. Of course, the more easily manipulated the BRAC is, the better for them.

None of that will keep the parents who want to sue from suing. They will still have standing; it’s just very hard to challenge a School Board decision in court successfully. The courts are usually very deferential.

This person is not any of those things.

He is a political activist and donor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are other parents hearing this?

A big FCPS political activist just outed himself as being one of the people "randomly selected" for the parents advisory committee on rezoning.

The activist is a publicly open political activist for lbgtq causes and school board donor, with no children in FCPS. He is one of the people who seems to get a public speaking spot at nearly every school board meeting, in spite of those also designated as "random" selection. He was given one of the limited committee spots on the parent committee, in spite of not being a parent.

This is while FCPS, Reid and the school board are claiming the spots were "randomly" selected from the 1600 parent volunteers.

If the committee is so limited, why was one of the precious spots given to a non parent, political activist with no skin in the game?

Were the rest of the spots given to FCPS school board members' friends, favored activists and donors as a way to rubber stamp the county wide rezoning?

Where is the transparency of this committee?

Where are the meeting minutes and videos of their work?

Why are childless political activists getting spots on the committee, when the spots are so limited?

Does anyone have information to share on the committee and its appointments?

I think you need to read the description of the BRAC more carefully.

It suggests there were 48 randomly selected members, two from each pyramid, and then a number of additional appointed members composed of teachers, staff, and members of other FCPS committees. The total size of the BRAC wasn’t specified.

At the end of the day Reid and the School Board will do what they want to do regardless of the input from the BRAC. Of course, the more easily manipulated the BRAC is, the better for them.

None of that will keep the parents who want to sue from suing. They will still have standing; it’s just very hard to challenge a School Board decision in court successfully. The courts are usually very deferential.

This person is not any of those things.

He is a political activist and donor.

He is currently listed in the staff directory of Herndon HS as a Latin teacher and he may be on other standing FCPS advisory committees.

So you are wrong about his qualifications to be on the committee. Whether he brings much to the table other than support for the current SB is a different issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are other parents hearing this?

A big FCPS political activist just outed himself as being one of the people "randomly selected" for the parents advisory committee on rezoning.

The activist is a publicly open political activist for lbgtq causes and school board donor, with no children in FCPS. He is one of the people who seems to get a public speaking spot at nearly every school board meeting, in spite of those also designated as "random" selection. He was given one of the limited committee spots on the parent committee, in spite of not being a parent.

This is while FCPS, Reid and the school board are claiming the spots were "randomly" selected from the 1600 parent volunteers.

If the committee is so limited, why was one of the precious spots given to a non parent, political activist with no skin in the game?

Were the rest of the spots given to FCPS school board members' friends, favored activists and donors as a way to rubber stamp the county wide rezoning?

Where is the transparency of this committee?

Where are the meeting minutes and videos of their work?

Why are childless political activists getting spots on the committee, when the spots are so limited?

Does anyone have information to share on the committee and its appointments?

One woman, who is extremely active in our pyramid (has been PTSA president) and very outspoken, was chosen to be on the committee. We had been talking about the committee and boundary review process and I mentioned I had applied but hadn't heard anything. She told me she had been selected. I would imagine that the people who applied are probably fairly active to begin with (the second email did emphasize it would be a huge time committment.). I have no idea if she was selected because she's a "favored activist."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are other parents hearing this?

A big FCPS political activist just outed himself as being one of the people "randomly selected" for the parents advisory committee on rezoning.

The activist is a publicly open political activist for lbgtq causes and school board donor, with no children in FCPS. He is one of the people who seems to get a public speaking spot at nearly every school board meeting, in spite of those also designated as "random" selection. He was given one of the limited committee spots on the parent committee, in spite of not being a parent.

This is while FCPS, Reid and the school board are claiming the spots were "randomly" selected from the 1600 parent volunteers.

If the committee is so limited, why was one of the precious spots given to a non parent, political activist with no skin in the game?

Were the rest of the spots given to FCPS school board members' friends, favored activists and donors as a way to rubber stamp the county wide rezoning?

Where is the transparency of this committee?

Where are the meeting minutes and videos of their work?

Why are childless political activists getting spots on the committee, when the spots are so limited?

Does anyone have information to share on the committee and its appointments?

I think you need to read the description of the BRAC more carefully.

It suggests there were 48 randomly selected members, two from each pyramid, and then a number of additional appointed members composed of teachers, staff, and members of other FCPS committees. The total size of the BRAC wasn’t specified.

At the end of the day Reid and the School Board will do what they want to do regardless of the input from the BRAC. Of course, the more easily manipulated the BRAC is, the better for them.

None of that will keep the parents who want to sue from suing. They will still have standing; it’s just very hard to challenge a School Board decision in court successfully. The courts are usually very deferential.

This person is not any of those things.

He is a political activist and donor.

Yes, and they’re (unfortunately) free to stack the meetings with a bunch of political activists who are there to support the agenda. They have the 2 community representatives from every pyramid and ???? Number of hand-selected others who are who they really wanted on the committee all along.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are other parents hearing this?

A big FCPS political activist just outed himself as being one of the people "randomly selected" for the parents advisory committee on rezoning.

The activist is a publicly open political activist for lbgtq causes and school board donor, with no children in FCPS. He is one of the people who seems to get a public speaking spot at nearly every school board meeting, in spite of those also designated as "random" selection. He was given one of the limited committee spots on the parent committee, in spite of not being a parent.

This is while FCPS, Reid and the school board are claiming the spots were "randomly" selected from the 1600 parent volunteers.

If the committee is so limited, why was one of the precious spots given to a non parent, political activist with no skin in the game?

Were the rest of the spots given to FCPS school board members' friends, favored activists and donors as a way to rubber stamp the county wide rezoning?

Where is the transparency of this committee?

Where are the meeting minutes and videos of their work?

Why are childless political activists getting spots on the committee, when the spots are so limited?

Does anyone have information to share on the committee and its appointments?

I think you need to read the description of the BRAC more carefully.

It suggests there were 48 randomly selected members, two from each pyramid, and then a number of additional appointed members composed of teachers, staff, and members of other FCPS committees. The total size of the BRAC wasn’t specified.

At the end of the day Reid and the School Board will do what they want to do regardless of the input from the BRAC. Of course, the more easily manipulated the BRAC is, the better for them.

None of that will keep the parents who want to sue from suing. They will still have standing; it’s just very hard to challenge a School Board decision in court successfully. The courts are usually very deferential.

This person is not any of those things.

He is a political activist and donor.

He is currently listed in the staff directory of Herndon HS as a Latin teacher and he may be on other standing FCPS advisory committees.

So you are wrong about his qualifications to be on the committee. Whether he brings much to the table other than support for the current SB is a different issue.

Funny. Herndon doesn’t offer Latin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are other parents hearing this?

A big FCPS political activist just outed himself as being one of the people "randomly selected" for the parents advisory committee on rezoning.

The activist is a publicly open political activist for lbgtq causes and school board donor, with no children in FCPS. He is one of the people who seems to get a public speaking spot at nearly every school board meeting, in spite of those also designated as "random" selection. He was given one of the limited committee spots on the parent committee, in spite of not being a parent.

This is while FCPS, Reid and the school board are claiming the spots were "randomly" selected from the 1600 parent volunteers.

If the committee is so limited, why was one of the precious spots given to a non parent, political activist with no skin in the game?

Were the rest of the spots given to FCPS school board members' friends, favored activists and donors as a way to rubber stamp the county wide rezoning?

Where is the transparency of this committee?

Where are the meeting minutes and videos of their work?

Why are childless political activists getting spots on the committee, when the spots are so limited?

Does anyone have information to share on the committee and its appointments?

One woman, who is extremely active in our pyramid (has been PTSA president) and very outspoken, was chosen to be on the committee. We had been talking about the committee and boundary review process and I mentioned I had applied but hadn't heard anything. She told me she had been selected. I would imagine that the people who applied are probably fairly active to begin with (the second email did emphasize it would be a huge time committment.). I have no idea if she was selected because she's a "favored activist."

The parents selected "randomly" were required to sign strict NDAs.

It sounds like the political activists then were not.

I am sorry but what a crock of s&#!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are other parents hearing this?

A big FCPS political activist just outed himself as being one of the people "randomly selected" for the parents advisory committee on rezoning.

The activist is a publicly open political activist for lbgtq causes and school board donor, with no children in FCPS. He is one of the people who seems to get a public speaking spot at nearly every school board meeting, in spite of those also designated as "random" selection. He was given one of the limited committee spots on the parent committee, in spite of not being a parent.

This is while FCPS, Reid and the school board are claiming the spots were "randomly" selected from the 1600 parent volunteers.

If the committee is so limited, why was one of the precious spots given to a non parent, political activist with no skin in the game?

Were the rest of the spots given to FCPS school board members' friends, favored activists and donors as a way to rubber stamp the county wide rezoning?

Where is the transparency of this committee?

Where are the meeting minutes and videos of their work?

Why are childless political activists getting spots on the committee, when the spots are so limited?

Does anyone have information to share on the committee and its appointments?

I think you need to read the description of the BRAC more carefully.

It suggests there were 48 randomly selected members, two from each pyramid, and then a number of additional appointed members composed of teachers, staff, and members of other FCPS committees. The total size of the BRAC wasn’t specified.

At the end of the day Reid and the School Board will do what they want to do regardless of the input from the BRAC. Of course, the more easily manipulated the BRAC is, the better for them.

None of that will keep the parents who want to sue from suing. They will still have standing; it’s just very hard to challenge a School Board decision in court successfully. The courts are usually very deferential.

This person is not any of those things.

He is a political activist and donor.

He is currently listed in the staff directory of Herndon HS as a Latin teacher and he may be on other standing FCPS advisory committees.

So you are wrong about his qualifications to be on the committee. Whether he brings much to the table other than support for the current SB is a different issue.

Funny. Herndon doesn’t offer Latin.

You can check the staff directory for Herndon High. That is how he is listed, so perhaps he's a substitute but they acknowledged that he used to teach Latin at West Potomac.

I don't disagree that, if he's on the committee, he was appointed because they viewed him as a supporter of whatever they want to do with boundaries. He supports the School Board because they advocate for LBGTQ students, and in return he'll rubber-stamp what they want to do with boundaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are other parents hearing this?

A big FCPS political activist just outed himself as being one of the people "randomly selected" for the parents advisory committee on rezoning.

The activist is a publicly open political activist for lbgtq causes and school board donor, with no children in FCPS. He is one of the people who seems to get a public speaking spot at nearly every school board meeting, in spite of those also designated as "random" selection. He was given one of the limited committee spots on the parent committee, in spite of not being a parent.

This is while FCPS, Reid and the school board are claiming the spots were "randomly" selected from the 1600 parent volunteers.

If the committee is so limited, why was one of the precious spots given to a non parent, political activist with no skin in the game?

Were the rest of the spots given to FCPS school board members' friends, favored activists and donors as a way to rubber stamp the county wide rezoning?

Where is the transparency of this committee?

Where are the meeting minutes and videos of their work?

Why are childless political activists getting spots on the committee, when the spots are so limited?

Does anyone have information to share on the committee and its appointments?

I think you need to read the description of the BRAC more carefully.

It suggests there were 48 randomly selected members, two from each pyramid, and then a number of additional appointed members composed of teachers, staff, and members of other FCPS committees. The total size of the BRAC wasn’t specified.

At the end of the day Reid and the School Board will do what they want to do regardless of the input from the BRAC. Of course, the more easily manipulated the BRAC is, the better for them.

None of that will keep the parents who want to sue from suing. They will still have standing; it’s just very hard to challenge a School Board decision in court successfully. The courts are usually very deferential.

This person is not any of those things.

He is a political activist and donor.

He is currently listed in the staff directory of Herndon HS as a Latin teacher and he may be on other standing FCPS advisory committees.

So you are wrong about his qualifications to be on the committee. Whether he brings much to the table other than support for the current SB is a different issue.

Does Herndon even offer Latin?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are other parents hearing this?

A big FCPS political activist just outed himself as being one of the people "randomly selected" for the parents advisory committee on rezoning.

The activist is a publicly open political activist for lbgtq causes and school board donor, with no children in FCPS. He is one of the people who seems to get a public speaking spot at nearly every school board meeting, in spite of those also designated as "random" selection. He was given one of the limited committee spots on the parent committee, in spite of not being a parent.

This is while FCPS, Reid and the school board are claiming the spots were "randomly" selected from the 1600 parent volunteers.

If the committee is so limited, why was one of the precious spots given to a non parent, political activist with no skin in the game?

Were the rest of the spots given to FCPS school board members' friends, favored activists and donors as a way to rubber stamp the county wide rezoning?

Where is the transparency of this committee?

Where are the meeting minutes and videos of their work?

Why are childless political activists getting spots on the committee, when the spots are so limited?

Does anyone have information to share on the committee and its appointments?

I think you need to read the description of the BRAC more carefully.

It suggests there were 48 randomly selected members, two from each pyramid, and then a number of additional appointed members composed of teachers, staff, and members of other FCPS committees. The total size of the BRAC wasn’t specified.

At the end of the day Reid and the School Board will do what they want to do regardless of the input from the BRAC. Of course, the more easily manipulated the BRAC is, the better for them.

None of that will keep the parents who want to sue from suing. They will still have standing; it’s just very hard to challenge a School Board decision in court successfully. The courts are usually very deferential.

This person is not any of those things.

He is a political activist and donor.

He is currently listed in the staff directory of Herndon HS as a Latin teacher and he may be on other standing FCPS advisory committees.

So you are wrong about his qualifications to be on the committee. Whether he brings much to the table other than support for the current SB is a different issue.

Does Herndon even offer Latin?

The course catalog suggests it does. It may have been discontinued for a while.

https://insys.fcps.edu/CourseCatOnline/courselist/380/7/0/0/0/1

[Anonymous]

This is the problem with the posters from "that" part of the county. They don't check their facts because they are so sure that everything is a conspiracy to stick it to *their* school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the problem with the posters from "that" part of the county. They don't check their facts because they are so sure that everything is a conspiracy to stick it to *their* school.

That person should not have been given a committee spot.

He only got it because he is a vocal democrat donor.

Apointing him to the committee reeks of coruption.