ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

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Can someone give insights on MV?

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Anonymous wrote:Boys slate is nothing short of a disgrace? No AP or JW???

You can't keep saying this now that we know that JW was offered a position and turned it down.

Who cares what they were offered or turned down. Leadership did a piss poor job of negotiating and now McLean lost its best coaches. How is this good for the players? We know AP was not offered a spot. It’s clear CW and NM offered up control of Boys program which means JW had no future as ATD. Nobody is pointing out that Brent H is also not listed. That’s 3 coaches not returning. Girls coaches were never in danger. Only boys. Once again showing the bias. They even added Tyler M to the boys side. Nepotism much. What a joke. He is a girls ECNL coach. Why would anyone want to work for an organization that treats its best employees like this. You don’t see this mess at good clubs. Players and parents should leave for better clubs.

It matters because you keep lobbing accusations and, when contradicted, pivot to a different narrative. You are making McLean parents look spoiled, dishonest, and irrational.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone give insights on MV?

Old crotchety man. 08s finally started winning when he left them and Lindsey started coaching them. And now he’s weaseled his way back in.

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Who is Tyler M? Never heard of him.

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Anonymous wrote:Boys slate is nothing short of a disgrace? No AP or JW???

You can't keep saying this now that we know that JW was offered a position and turned it down.

Who cares what they were offered or turned down. Leadership did a piss poor job of negotiating and now McLean lost its best coaches. How is this good for the players? We know AP was not offered a spot. It’s clear CW and NM offered up control of Boys program which means JW had no future as ATD. Nobody is pointing out that Brent H is also not listed. That’s 3 coaches not returning. Girls coaches were never in danger. Only boys. Once again showing the bias. They even added Tyler M to the boys side. Nepotism much. What a joke. He is a girls ECNL coach. Why would anyone want to work for an organization that treats its best employees like this. You don’t see this mess at good clubs. Players and parents should leave for better clubs.

It matters because you keep lobbing accusations and, when contradicted, pivot to a different narrative. You are making McLean parents look spoiled, dishonest, and irrational.

What does it mean that CW and NM offered up control of boys program. Did it say anywhere that VA Union got one gender and BRAVE got the other?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone give insights on MV?

I know some McLean parents are upset by this, but at least you got a few emails from your club. Brave got nothing. MV is in charge. That tells you a bit about the level of communication that you should expect.

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Anonymous wrote:On the boys side they should just put Bill Hamid in charge. I don’t know if he can even coach, but he’s got chops for days compared to the other boy’s coaches.

I don't know if he has the experience to be in charge of other coaches but he is a good goalie coach and an incredibly nice guy.

Don’t know the circumstances around JS, but not retaining him is a big loss. I’ve seen many keepers develop under his tutelage. Very unfortunate.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the solution:
Each ECNL team will be assigned 3 coaches—1 unanimously selected from each of the 3 club voting groups. The coaches rotate with each practice/game. Rock/paper/scissors decides who starts the rotation. Each player will have the benefit of 3 coaching styles, 3 evaluators, 3 styles of play, and 3 college references. The annual cost will have go up just a little to around $7,500 (uniforms, snacks, and travel not included), but well worth it! Problem solved.

The Judgment of Solomon. Why do you need the Union coaches to come to agreement? Let them out, this is a Deja Vu - old BRYC Boys TD didn’t want to sign off on BRAVE.

And replace them with the BRAVE boys coaches which have done a bang up job? That makes so much sense. You obviously don't know anything about the McLean Boys coaches. These are the coaches that have rebuilt McLean's reputation after they lost DA. They won the clubs only National Championship and have do so much to transform the boys program. And MYS leadership just wants to throw them out like nothing. It's a masterclass in weak leadership by Louise. From what I was told the the McLean Boys TD would have signed off on the merger if he could keep his best coaches. Which makes all the sense in the world. Why wouldn't the club want that? Instead McLean Girls leaders (Louise, Clyde, Nadir) are offering up the boys program in order to make the Girls stronger. The smoke screen is that it's the boys program's fault - which is patently false. Nobody has even confirmed what the clubs standing were in past years. It's just being assumed looking at their current rankings this year that the boys program has been bad. Except in 2022 they were National Finalist at U19. You don't see the club leadership pushing that narrative do you. This is all politics to cover up what's really happening. The real issue is that SYC is no longer a pipeline for Nadir and Clyde and they CAN'T develop young talent so they need fresh blood. Kevin James isn't an idiot. He knows he is on the hot seat for his sh*t deal with BRYC that has failed. The league was only going to kick out one club and the obvious choice is BRAVE. Plain and simple. Kevin and Nadir got together and made a deal to save their asses and in order to do so they have to fire the most important McLean Boys coaches.

I’ve always believed the McLean Boys coaches were very good, but at the moment their egos appear to be putting a lot of kids in a very bad spot. Their bosses made the decision without them. That’s uncool.
But their stonewalling isn’t doing anyone favors.

McLean Boys parent here. The club isn't listening to its members. It's not the coaches stonewalling. The parents have written countless letters to the leadership that they don't want this merger. They are trying to protect their coaches from being unjustly fired. Louise and company should be fired for their incompetence. This the worst rollout of a partnership ever (second to the SYC rollout).

There was no choice, the vote would have been merge with Brave or lose ECNL. Your Club told you that. It’s what BRYC was told with Vienna and probably what McLean was told about SYC.
It’s done, it’s not great for a lot of people, but it’s not going away.
Why make it worse than it already will be for a lot of kids.

I guess you just believe everything you hear and don't ask questions ever. What a dumb comment. Wake up. We are being lied to for self-interest of a few and hurting our own players.

So you wanted to stay just McLean and not try to improve? There is one half way decent Union boys team and they still don’t have a winning record.

2011 - 13th of 16
2010 - 13th of 16
2009 - 10th of 16
2008 - 6th of 16
2007 - 10th of 16
2005/2006 - 16th of 16

Nice try. Season for U13 and U14 is not done so ranking is not even relevant. But compared to Brave:

Union 2011 - 3-11-1. Brave 2011 - 2-12-1
Union 2010 - 4-9-1. Brave 2010 - 5-6-4
Union 2009 - 5-8-2. Brave 2009 - 1-13-1
Union 2008 - 8-3-4. Brave 2008 - 0-15-0
Union 2007- 6-8-1. Brave 2008 - 6-8-1
Union 2006 - 1-11-2. Brave 2006 - 4-8-3

I am not against a merger. I am against losing our best coaches to a program that is worse than ours.

What was the record between clubs on the boys and girls when they played this year?

Brave won the boys fixture this year against Union 3-2-1
Union won the girls fixture this year 5-1 (only 08s Brave won)

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Means the girls will be heavy on VYS players especially the 2012s.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone give insights on MV?

As a parent, I have no insights because he doesn't talk much to me. My child likes playing on his team. That makes me like him. End of story.

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Anonymous wrote:See I told you that MV was going to be the 08Gs HC.

Can someone please tell me if MV is any good?!

If you’re not from VYS and your DD is borderline then you should volunteer to be the team manager, purchase trainers on behalf of the club or donate to his semi-pro team. This will help your DD chances.

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Anonymous wrote:Boys slate is nothing short of a disgrace? No AP or JW???

You can't keep saying this now that we know that JW was offered a position and turned it down.

Who cares what they were offered or turned down. Leadership did a piss poor job of negotiating and now McLean lost its best coaches. How is this good for the players? We know AP was not offered a spot. It’s clear CW and NM offered up control of Boys program which means JW had no future as ATD. Nobody is pointing out that Brent H is also not listed. That’s 3 coaches not returning. Girls coaches were never in danger. Only boys. Once again showing the bias. They even added Tyler M to the boys side. Nepotism much. What a joke. He is a girls ECNL coach. Why would anyone want to work for an organization that treats its best employees like this. You don’t see this mess at good clubs. Players and parents should leave for better clubs.

It matters because you keep lobbing accusations and, when contradicted, pivot to a different narrative. You are making McLean parents look spoiled, dishonest, and irrational.

This is the stupidest shit. AP was out months ago. Nobody forced anyone out.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone give insights on MV?

As a parent, I have no insights because he doesn't talk much to me. My child likes playing on his team. That makes me like him. End of story.

^ BRAVE criteria.

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Anonymous wrote:See I told you that MV was going to be the 08Gs HC.

Can someone please tell me if MV is any good?!

MV coaches the Brave 09. This is what we are to expect.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1168828.page

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone give insights on MV?

As a parent, I have no insights because he doesn't talk much to me. My child likes playing on his team. That makes me like him. End of story.

How will the players be selected? 11 players from each club or top 22 players trying out?