Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

Using the opt in is stupid. FCPS needs to set Western boundaries at the same time as all the other boundary changes and tell the newly rezoned Western families that want to stay at their current high school that they have the option to do so for the next three years and then allow sibling placements for the following 3-5 years. That will make everyone who wants to stay at their HS and who are worried about separating siblings happy and then everyone else will have Western required when it's an established high school with established sports, theatre, pathways in place, etc.

+1 Sounds like a plan.

FCPS should hire me!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is difference between concern/tactics what might happen, and trully wish what will happen.

You can defend for you neighbor, I can trust my other crossfield neighbor ALL wishing it will not happen.

Crossfield family here, we may not be your neighbor (we don't live in Franklin Farm), but we and several of our neighbors want to go to Western. It's closer and when our kids start driving, it will be much safer and basically a straight shot to get there.

Dp. They were talking about fox mill want to send crossfield to slhs. Different topic you were talking about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

Using the opt in is stupid. FCPS needs to set Western boundaries at the same time as all the other boundary changes and tell the newly rezoned Western families that want to stay at their current high school that they have the option to do so for the next three years and then allow sibling placements for the following 3-5 years. That will make everyone who wants to stay at their HS and who are worried about separating siblings happy and then everyone else will have Western required when it's an established high school with established sports, theatre, pathways in place, etc.

+1 Sounds like a plan.

FCPS should hire me!

Unfortunately, I don't think that common sense is a plus with FCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

Using the opt in is stupid. FCPS needs to set Western boundaries at the same time as all the other boundary changes and tell the newly rezoned Western families that want to stay at their current high school that they have the option to do so for the next three years and then allow sibling placements for the following 3-5 years. That will make everyone who wants to stay at their HS and who are worried about separating siblings happy and then everyone else will have Western required when it's an established high school with established sports, theatre, pathways in place, etc.

You have no argument against opt-in except inventing random ways you think that is better. I like opt-in because I believe majority of my schools have a different view than a few loud advocates. Opt-in is the only way to find out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

What happened to them trying to make the best decisions as opposed to simply listening to the loudest voices?

This School Board is a case study in cowardice and incompetence.

Using the opt-in data is NOT listening to the loudest voices.

It’s a very imprecise reading of tea leaves as opposed to actually putting on their big boy pants and making a principled decision.

Opt-in numbers is just one data point. But it’s absolutely not listening to the loudest voice. That’s my point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

Using the opt in is stupid. FCPS needs to set Western boundaries at the same time as all the other boundary changes and tell the newly rezoned Western families that want to stay at their current high school that they have the option to do so for the next three years and then allow sibling placements for the following 3-5 years. That will make everyone who wants to stay at their HS and who are worried about separating siblings happy and then everyone else will have Western required when it's an established high school with established sports, theatre, pathways in place, etc.

You have no argument against opt-in except inventing random ways you think that is better. I like opt-in because I believe majority of my schools have a different view than a few loud advocates. Opt-in is the only way to find out.

True.

It’s also better than a survey. Surveys are like polls. Opt-ins are like actual voting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

What happened to them trying to make the best decisions as opposed to simply listening to the loudest voices?

This School Board is a case study in cowardice and incompetence.

Using the opt-in data is NOT listening to the loudest voices.

It’s a very imprecise reading of tea leaves as opposed to actually putting on their big boy pants and making a principled decision.

Opt-in numbers is just one data point. But it’s absolutely not listening to the loudest voice. That’s my point.

Sure. And, do the people in other areas get to "opt in" or "opt out" of their schools?

They should first set the boundaries BEFORE they start the "opt in."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

What happened to them trying to make the best decisions as opposed to simply listening to the loudest voices?

This School Board is a case study in cowardice and incompetence.

Using the opt-in data is NOT listening to the loudest voices.

It’s a very imprecise reading of tea leaves as opposed to actually putting on their big boy pants and making a principled decision.

Opt-in numbers is just one data point. But it’s absolutely not listening to the loudest voice. That’s my point.

Sure. And, do the people in other areas get to "opt in" or "opt out" of their schools?

They should first set the boundaries BEFORE they start the "opt in."

Agree with this. It's incredibly weak and hypocritical to say this school was necessary (and deserved to delay other capital projects) because there was a critical need for capacity relief and then just make a decision on boundaries based on how many kids initially opt in to attending Western. That's a very noisy signal, since different communities will have different levels of understanding about the whole opt-in/opt-out process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

What happened to them trying to make the best decisions as opposed to simply listening to the loudest voices?

This School Board is a case study in cowardice and incompetence.

Using the opt-in data is NOT listening to the loudest voices.

It’s a very imprecise reading of tea leaves as opposed to actually putting on their big boy pants and making a principled decision.

Opt-in numbers is just one data point. But it’s absolutely not listening to the loudest voice. That’s my point.

Sure. And, do the people in other areas get to "opt in" or "opt out" of their schools?

They should first set the boundaries BEFORE they start the "opt in."

Agree with this. It's incredibly weak and hypocritical to say this school was necessary (and deserved to delay other capital projects) because there was a critical need for capacity relief and then just make a decision on boundaries based on how many kids initially opt in to attending Western. That's a very noisy signal, since different communities will have different levels of understanding about the whole opt-in/opt-out process.

and, the problem is that there IS a critical need. I do not understand why they are ignoring it and going forward with this crazy plan. Is it to satisfy that group that claimed it should be a magnet? Is it to satisfy others? Makes no sense at all. I suspect it has more to do with Reid's pie in the sky hope to create some sort of special 22nd century program that she can brag about. Sadly, the community just wants a traditional high school with strong academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

Using the opt in is stupid. FCPS needs to set Western boundaries at the same time as all the other boundary changes and tell the newly rezoned Western families that want to stay at their current high school that they have the option to do so for the next three years and then allow sibling placements for the following 3-5 years. That will make everyone who wants to stay at their HS and who are worried about separating siblings happy and then everyone else will have Western required when it's an established high school with established sports, theatre, pathways in place, etc.

You have no argument against opt-in except inventing random ways you think that is better. I like opt-in because I believe majority of my schools have a different view than a few loud advocates. Opt-in is the only way to find out.

Nope, because it only shows you the preference of families of 8th graders, which is a small sliver of the population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

Using the opt in is stupid. FCPS needs to set Western boundaries at the same time as all the other boundary changes and tell the newly rezoned Western families that want to stay at their current high school that they have the option to do so for the next three years and then allow sibling placements for the following 3-5 years. That will make everyone who wants to stay at their HS and who are worried about separating siblings happy and then everyone else will have Western required when it's an established high school with established sports, theatre, pathways in place, etc.

You have no argument against opt-in except inventing random ways you think that is better. I like opt-in because I believe majority of my schools have a different view than a few loud advocates. Opt-in is the only way to find out.

Nope, because it only shows you the preference of families of 8th graders, which is a small sliver of the population.

Exactly. Opt-in for the first year is a non representative sample of the overall potential boundary families that is heavily biased due to having older siblings, sports ambitions, or other factors. It leaves those with younger kids lacking any voice in the matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think crossfield as a feeder to western makes a lot of sense from an equity standpoint. Hopefully they use this opportunity to help balance SES.

Many of the communities potentially getting pulled into the WHS have similar house prices/ household incomes to those zoned to Crossfield with the exception of some outliers east of West Ox rd. Nice job trying to get people fired up though!

+1

Balancing SES is not the issue. But, the Western school should have a very good balance with plenty of high achievers.

The decision should be made on what works best for the most kids.

To me, it is clear:
reducing overcrowding
neighborhoods
proximity

Option A--but add all of Floris students.
It reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
Frees up some space at Westfield where there is lots of new construction and with minor adjustments can help free space at Centreville.
Reduces long bus rides to Oakton
Keeps neighborhoods together.

You’ll have several more months to argue your case. Absurd that establishing the boundaries for the new Western HS is not a higher priority than tinkering with boundaries elsewhere in the county. Reid and the School Board are truly a bunch of bumblers.

Crossfield here for Option B. Reducing bus ride is not my top 3 concern. Just like AP/IB choice for Fox Mill may not the big concern for some Fox Mill families as it made out to be.

Let's see who opt-in in Jan. and then we know what matters more for whom.

Using the opt in is stupid. FCPS needs to set Western boundaries at the same time as all the other boundary changes and tell the newly rezoned Western families that want to stay at their current high school that they have the option to do so for the next three years and then allow sibling placements for the following 3-5 years. That will make everyone who wants to stay at their HS and who are worried about separating siblings happy and then everyone else will have Western required when it's an established high school with established sports, theatre, pathways in place, etc.

You have no argument against opt-in except inventing random ways you think that is better. I like opt-in because I believe majority of my schools have a different view than a few loud advocates. Opt-in is the only way to find out.

Nope, because it only shows you the preference of families of 8th graders, which is a small sliver of the population.

Exactly. Opt-in for the first year is a non representative sample of the overall potential boundary families that is heavily biased due to having older siblings, sports ambitions, or other factors. It leaves those with younger kids lacking any voice in the matter.

+1

Amazing how this is unfolding--or, I guess it is not unfolding, it is a windmill.

[Anonymous]

The new school will be more like centreville, will not be as nearly good as Chantilly. Younger kids can make decision without surprise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The new school will be more like centreville, will not be as nearly good as Chantilly. Younger kids can make decision without surprise.

That’s a ridiculous assessment. No one has any idea what that school will become for better or worse.

[Anonymous]

The new school will be similar to Chantilly. Lots of high achievers and a good mix of diversity,