Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It's not a NIMBY-driven issue, it's a county analysis as to whether a particular area can handle a higher volume of traffic and whether the building's footprint will be consistent with the land use requirements.

Do these "experts" have any common sense? Have they looked at a map?

1. The students going to Westfield cause far more traffic issues than they would to the new school. Crossfield, Floris, and Fox Mill already use that traffic pattern for Carson. They already had 1000 students going to that school, so I do not see how it could aggravate the traffic much. In fact, it would relieve traffic on 28 if kids going to Westfield from the area go to the new school. Certainly, if Oakton goes, it would relieve traffic on I66 and the winding back roads.

2. The building already has a footprint that was approved.

Fairfax is congested enough as it is, so I don't begrudge county planning people taking a look at this to make sure FCPS isn't creating any unforeseen traffic chock-holds around McLearen and 657.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's not a NIMBY-driven issue, it's a county analysis as to whether a particular area can handle a higher volume of traffic and whether the building's footprint will be consistent with the land use requirements.

Do these "experts" have any common sense? Have they looked at a map?

1. The students going to Westfield cause far more traffic issues than they would to the new school. Crossfield, Floris, and Fox Mill already use that traffic pattern for Carson. They already had 1000 students going to that school, so I do not see how it could aggravate the traffic much. In fact, it would relieve traffic on 28 if kids going to Westfield from the area go to the new school. Certainly, if Oakton goes, it would relieve traffic on I66 and the winding back roads.

2. The building already has a footprint that was approved.

LOL! So, the kids going down 657 and McLearen don't already do that for Carson? So, the kids going down 657 and McLearen don't already do that to get to Westfield--unless they are going down 28?

I don't know which way McNair and Coates use to get to Westfield--I'm guessing that some use 657 and some use 28. For sure, the Floris kids are using 657 and 28. Some likely also use McLearen.

This will be reducing traffic. And, remember, there were already 1000 KAA students using McLearen. I passed many KAA buses on McLearen Rd and West Ox.
What part of a "closer commute" contributes to more traffic?

Fairfax is congested enough as it is, so I don't begrudge county planning people taking a look at this to make sure FCPS isn't creating any unforeseen traffic chock-holds around McLearen and 657.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could there be a delay? Does anyone know about this process?

https://www.centre-view.com/news/2025/dec/17/could-2232-process-cast-a-shadow-over-western-high-school/

I don't understand the issue with traffic and "more trips." It's basically next to Carson and actually more accessible as the street is off McLearen and wider.

And, how can this be more trips when the students will all be attending schools closer than the ones they attend now?

Agree with comments about the way this has been run. They should have started and set boundaries within short months of the purchase. One of the options presented was quite reasonable. Another one could also work. C and D which left Discovery Square (right next to the facility) at Westfield were, to me, ridiculous.

The RIO complaints are all emotional and subjective and could apply to any group that does not want to move there. Any objective person could see this.

That trip to Oakton is awful from this area.

I think you're missing the point. The issue from the perspective of the planning folks is whether the area immediately near Western and Carson can handle the additional traffic, not whether it would mean shorter commutes in the aggregate. And there will be even more cars if there are families opting into Western who ultimately aren't within the boundaries established in June.

But of course it can, there's nothing there except one per two office buildings. data centers, more data centers, and some self storage facilities. Oh and Nysmith, but nobody cares about them, half those kids will end up at Western anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could there be a delay? Does anyone know about this process?

https://www.centre-view.com/news/2025/dec/17/could-2232-process-cast-a-shadow-over-western-high-school/

I don't understand the issue with traffic and "more trips." It's basically next to Carson and actually more accessible as the street is off McLearen and wider.

And, how can this be more trips when the students will all be attending schools closer than the ones they attend now?

Agree with comments about the way this has been run. They should have started and set boundaries within short months of the purchase. One of the options presented was quite reasonable. Another one could also work. C and D which left Discovery Square (right next to the facility) at Westfield were, to me, ridiculous.

The RIO complaints are all emotional and subjective and could apply to any group that does not want to move there. Any objective person could see this.

That trip to Oakton is awful from this area.

I think you're missing the point. The issue from the perspective of the planning folks is whether the area immediately near Western and Carson can handle the additional traffic, not whether it would mean shorter commutes in the aggregate. And there will be even more cars if there are families opting into Western who ultimately aren't within the boundaries established in June.

But of course it can, there's nothing there except one per two office buildings. data centers, more data centers, and some self storage facilities. Oh and Nysmith, but nobody cares about them, half those kids will end up at Western anyway.

Fine, then I don’t see why you’re getting your panties all in a bunch about one or two approvals you are so certain should be no-brainers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could there be a delay? Does anyone know about this process?

https://www.centre-view.com/news/2025/dec/17/could-2232-process-cast-a-shadow-over-western-high-school/

I don't understand the issue with traffic and "more trips." It's basically next to Carson and actually more accessible as the street is off McLearen and wider.

And, how can this be more trips when the students will all be attending schools closer than the ones they attend now?

Agree with comments about the way this has been run. They should have started and set boundaries within short months of the purchase. One of the options presented was quite reasonable. Another one could also work. C and D which left Discovery Square (right next to the facility) at Westfield were, to me, ridiculous.

The RIO complaints are all emotional and subjective and could apply to any group that does not want to move there. Any objective person could see this.

That trip to Oakton is awful from this area.

I think you're missing the point. The issue from the perspective of the planning folks is whether the area immediately near Western and Carson can handle the additional traffic, not whether it would mean shorter commutes in the aggregate. And there will be even more cars if there are families opting into Western who ultimately aren't within the boundaries established in June.

But of course it can, there's nothing there except one per two office buildings. data centers, more data centers, and some self storage facilities. Oh and Nysmith, but nobody cares about them, half those kids will end up at Western anyway.

True. And, it is off a four lane road (McLearen) which crosses Centreville Rd (another four lane road). If they claim traffic is a problem, where can you put a school? It will be easier to access than Carson (where you have to go through the parking lot.)