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Anonymous wrote:I hope all these inspired Ward 6 parents have already filled out their lottery applications and have Miner ranked #1.

Using Maury kids as pawns in an experiment that has already failed on the Hill instead of your own is high level hypocrisy.



It's not hypocritical-- many of us send our kids to schools like Payne, Watkins, JO, Van Ness, and Tyler (my kids' school is on this list). I don't have to prove my bona fides to you. I am already doing my part to create truly integrated Ward 6 schools and support the education of at risk students in my school. I don't need to lottery for Miner because I'm already doing it somewhere else.

Your turn.


DP. My went from Maury to EH - are you going to send your kid to the IB MS? The fact is, zero parents (including black and lower SES) make school choices based on some abstract sense of “creating a truly integrated Ward 6.” That’s nonsense.


I 100% made school choices out of a belief in integrated schools. In fact, we were offered a lottery spot at one of the coveted Hill schools and turned it down to stay at our school with a higher at risk percentage. Again, I dare you to call me a hypocrite. I walk the walk.


Ok, weirdo.

-DP


I love that this is the response to someone stating that they chose to attend an IB school with a high at risk percentage over lotterying into a school with a low at risk percentage, even though this is precisely the choice Maury families are demanding Miner IB families make in order to fix Miner without requiring a cluster.

DCUM never disappoints. It's hypocrisy and nonsense all the way down.


They allegedly chose to attend their IB school due to some white savior complex. At best, they're IB for Payne and patting themselves on the back for supporting "integration." But more likely, they're a troll.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope all these inspired Ward 6 parents have already filled out their lottery applications and have Miner ranked #1.

Using Maury kids as pawns in an experiment that has already failed on the Hill instead of your own is high level hypocrisy.



It's not hypocritical-- many of us send our kids to schools like Payne, Watkins, JO, Van Ness, and Tyler (my kids' school is on this list). I don't have to prove my bona fides to you. I am already doing my part to create truly integrated Ward 6 schools and support the education of at risk students in my school. I don't need to lottery for Miner because I'm already doing it somewhere else.

Your turn.


DP. My went from Maury to EH - are you going to send your kid to the IB MS? The fact is, zero parents (including black and lower SES) make school choices based on some abstract sense of “creating a truly integrated Ward 6.” That’s nonsense.


I 100% made school choices out of a belief in integrated schools. In fact, we were offered a lottery spot at one of the coveted Hill schools and turned it down to stay at our school with a higher at risk percentage. Again, I dare you to call me a hypocrite. I walk the walk.


How old? And will you send your kid to Eastern? There are a very small minority who tell themselves this, but understand there are more important priorities later. I mean if you are saving for college in a 529 that in and of itself is prioritizing educational factors other than diversity.


Mid-elementary (as in has taken PARCC), we 100% will go to our feeder MS. Have not made a decision either way on Eastern. Regardless, whatever HS our kids attended will be both racially and socioeconomically diverse.[b] I grew up going to schools like this and I think it made me a better person, and I am committed to giving my own kids that opportunity.[/b[


OMG spare us. Talk to us again when your third grader is 12.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope all these inspired Ward 6 parents have already filled out their lottery applications and have Miner ranked #1.

Using Maury kids as pawns in an experiment that has already failed on the Hill instead of your own is high level hypocrisy.



It's not hypocritical-- many of us send our kids to schools like Payne, Watkins, JO, Van Ness, and Tyler (my kids' school is on this list). I don't have to prove my bona fides to you. I am already doing my part to create truly integrated Ward 6 schools and support the education of at risk students in my school. I don't need to lottery for Miner because I'm already doing it somewhere else.

Your turn.


DP. My went from Maury to EH - are you going to send your kid to the IB MS? The fact is, zero parents (including black and lower SES) make school choices based on some abstract sense of “creating a truly integrated Ward 6.” That’s nonsense.


I 100% made school choices out of a belief in integrated schools. In fact, we were offered a lottery spot at one of the coveted Hill schools and turned it down to stay at our school with a higher at risk percentage. Again, I dare you to call me a hypocrite. I walk the walk.


So, you tried the lottery and succeeded with a spot into a high performing Hill elementary but turned it down.

I'd be very interested in your 180 degree change of heart.

I'm betting the school you are at from the list you provided is good enough (much better than Miner) and the commute to the other Hill elementary wasn't practical.

Walk the walk and lottery into Miner.



Our school has moderately lower at risk percentages than Miner but not a huge difference. Test scores slightly better but not dramatically so. The school we received a lottery offer at is maybe an extra 5 minute walk? Commute was not a factor.

We entered the lottery because one of our children was in the midst of special needs evaluation and testing, and we wanted to be able to evaluate SpEd programs at multiple schools as we received that diagnosis, and make an informed decision that best met our child's needs, while also prioritizing having both children on the same campus and a reasonable commute. So we did a lottery application for both kids for 4 schools within a walkable commute of our home and randomly got high lottery numbers that resulted in an offer at this other school. We toured it, talked to their SpEd staff, and took a week to make our decision, but ultimately decided that while the school seemed lovely, we were content at our current school, satisfied with how they were approaching our child's SN concerns (by then we had a diagnosis and were in the midst of the IEP process), and it didn't make sense to uproot both kids and abandon a school we liked and where we were involved to move to a nearby school. I have zero regrets about our decision.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope all these inspired Ward 6 parents have already filled out their lottery applications and have Miner ranked #1.

Using Maury kids as pawns in an experiment that has already failed on the Hill instead of your own is high level hypocrisy.



It's not hypocritical-- many of us send our kids to schools like Payne, Watkins, JO, Van Ness, and Tyler (my kids' school is on this list). I don't have to prove my bona fides to you. I am already doing my part to create truly integrated Ward 6 schools and support the education of at risk students in my school. I don't need to lottery for Miner because I'm already doing it somewhere else.

Your turn.


DP. My went from Maury to EH - are you going to send your kid to the IB MS? The fact is, zero parents (including black and lower SES) make school choices based on some abstract sense of “creating a truly integrated Ward 6.” That’s nonsense.


I 100% made school choices out of a belief in integrated schools. In fact, we were offered a lottery spot at one of the coveted Hill schools and turned it down to stay at our school with a higher at risk percentage. Again, I dare you to call me a hypocrite. I walk the walk.


Ok, weirdo.

-DP


I love that this is the response to someone stating that they chose to attend an IB school with a high at risk percentage over lotterying into a school with a low at risk percentage, even though this is precisely the choice Maury families are demanding Miner IB families make in order to fix Miner without requiring a cluster.

DCUM never disappoints. It's hypocrisy and nonsense all the way down.


They allegedly chose to attend their IB school due to some white savior complex. At best, they're IB for Payne and patting themselves on the back for supporting "integration." But more likely, they're a troll.


Y'all are so convinced that everyone is as self-serving and value-free as you are. It's actually sad.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope all these inspired Ward 6 parents have already filled out their lottery applications and have Miner ranked #1.

Using Maury kids as pawns in an experiment that has already failed on the Hill instead of your own is high level hypocrisy.



It's not hypocritical-- many of us send our kids to schools like Payne, Watkins, JO, Van Ness, and Tyler (my kids' school is on this list). I don't have to prove my bona fides to you. I am already doing my part to create truly integrated Ward 6 schools and support the education of at risk students in my school. I don't need to lottery for Miner because I'm already doing it somewhere else.

Your turn.


DP. My went from Maury to EH - are you going to send your kid to the IB MS? The fact is, zero parents (including black and lower SES) make school choices based on some abstract sense of “creating a truly integrated Ward 6.” That’s nonsense.


I 100% made school choices out of a belief in integrated schools. In fact, we were offered a lottery spot at one of the coveted Hill schools and turned it down to stay at our school with a higher at risk percentage. Again, I dare you to call me a hypocrite. I walk the walk.


How old? And will you send your kid to Eastern? There are a very small minority who tell themselves this, but understand there are more important priorities later. I mean if you are saving for college in a 529 that in and of itself is prioritizing educational factors other than diversity.


Mid-elementary (as in has taken PARCC), we 100% will go to our feeder MS. Have not made a decision either way on Eastern. Regardless, whatever HS our kids attended will be both racially and socioeconomically diverse.[b] I grew up going to schools like this and I think it made me a better person, and I am committed to giving my own kids that opportunity.[/b[


OMG spare us. Talk to us again when your third grader is 12.


How will I be able to do that? You'll have left DCPS for Latin, BASIS, a private, or simply moved. By the time my 4th grader is 12 (current third graders have not taken PARCC), you will have abandoned the schools my children attend for something else and will no longer be engaged in this conversation.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope all these inspired Ward 6 parents have already filled out their lottery applications and have Miner ranked #1.

Using Maury kids as pawns in an experiment that has already failed on the Hill instead of your own is high level hypocrisy.



It's not hypocritical-- many of us send our kids to schools like Payne, Watkins, JO, Van Ness, and Tyler (my kids' school is on this list). I don't have to prove my bona fides to you. I am already doing my part to create truly integrated Ward 6 schools and support the education of at risk students in my school. I don't need to lottery for Miner because I'm already doing it somewhere else.

Your turn.


DP. My went from Maury to EH - are you going to send your kid to the IB MS? The fact is, zero parents (including black and lower SES) make school choices based on some abstract sense of “creating a truly integrated Ward 6.” That’s nonsense.


I 100% made school choices out of a belief in integrated schools. In fact, we were offered a lottery spot at one of the coveted Hill schools and turned it down to stay at our school with a higher at risk percentage. Again, I dare you to call me a hypocrite. I walk the walk.


So, you tried the lottery and succeeded with a spot into a high performing Hill elementary but turned it down.

I'd be very interested in your 180 degree change of heart.

I'm betting the school you are at from the list you provided is good enough (much better than Miner) and the commute to the other Hill elementary wasn't practical.

Walk the walk and lottery into Miner.



Our school has moderately lower at risk percentages than Miner but not a huge difference. Test scores slightly better but not dramatically so. The school we received a lottery offer at is maybe an extra 5 minute walk? Commute was not a factor.

We entered the lottery because one of our children was in the midst of special needs evaluation and testing, and we wanted to be able to evaluate SpEd programs at multiple schools as we received that diagnosis, and make an informed decision that best met our child's needs, while also prioritizing having both children on the same campus and a reasonable commute. So we did a lottery application for both kids for 4 schools within a walkable commute of our home and randomly got high lottery numbers that resulted in an offer at this other school. We toured it, talked to their SpEd staff, and took a week to make our decision, but ultimately decided that while the school seemed lovely, we were content at our current school, satisfied with how they were approaching our child's SN concerns (by then we had a diagnosis and were in the midst of the IEP process), and it didn't make sense to uproot both kids and abandon a school we liked and where we were involved to move to a nearby school. I have zero regrets about our decision.


So if you deemed one of the other schools a better fit, you were going to take the lottery spot. Uh-huh.

You have the same self-interest motivations as any parent that wants the best for their child.

You just deem going to a school with a greater percentage of at-risk to be better for your child. And your opinion is in the extreme minority but you would like to impose it on those who disagree.

Your arm must hurt from patting yourself on the back all day long.
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Reading between the lines, the poster(s)' proposition really seems to be that combining the schools will help the MC and UMC kids at Miner/in the Miner boundary. Right? They're the ones who aren't getting enough attention in classrooms that are overwhelmingly at-risk, so they stand to benefit most from reallocating the at-risk kids between the two schools. That's why they're not bothered about whether it will actually improve performance of the at-risk kids. That's not their focus.
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Anonymous wrote:To me it's clear something needs to be done to lower the at risk percentage at Miner. I understand the objections to the cluster, but you can make similar objections to any proposal.

It feels like a lot of people are basically arguing for the status quo, which means Miner remains a school with a lot of at risk kids who it ultimately fails.

It feels like no matter what is proposed, it will be rejected as infeasible, and nothing will change.


How about DC actually figure out how to teach at-risk kids? Moving them from one school to another is NOT an instructional strategy!!! The status quo id terrible but moving kids around does ZERO to fix it.


Are you a Maury parent? Then you are a DCPS parent. If you don't think DC does a good job educating the 46% of DCPS students who are at risk, then why do you live here and send your kid to a DSPS school? Especially one that feeds to a MS and HS that are majority at risk.

Maury parents want it both ways. Please leave us alone to run our school with a 12% at risk percentage and don't you dare interfere in any way, but also the fact that DCPS, the school system we participate in and pay taxes into, is crap at educating at risk kids (heck we can't even handle the 12% at risk kids at our school and are demanding more resources to handle them in upper grades when the non-at-risk families bail for charters or private anyway because, again, our MS/HS feed is majority at risk) is someone else's problem, please deal with it but not in a way that impacts our school at all.

This is the reality of being in DCPS. You don't want to deal with at risk kids, high percentages of SpEd kids, administrative challenges, etc.? MOVE. And before you cry "But Ward 3!!!" at me, guess what -- Ward 3 has problems, too. Go talk to families with kids at Deal, Hardy, and JR about behavior, discipline, drug use, etc. We have friends with kids at Deal and JR who simply do not use the bathroom at school because it feels dangerous to them. These are inner-city schools. They have the problems of inner city schools.

As for Brent and LT, I would absolutely support at risk set asides for them and exploring cluster options. An LT-JOW cluster does have certain synergies, though I understand why Maury-Miner was selected first because of the more dramatic differences in demographics. I don't know that Brent lends itself as well to a cluster. Maybe with Van Ness, though being on either side of the freeway makes that less appealing, IMO. I actually think some kind of program that unites Brent with Amidon-Bowen could be beneficial -- the Jefferson Middle triangle is weirdly disjointed geographically, and finding ways to build community across the triangle could have real benefits for Jefferson as well as the participating elementary schools.


I’m sending my kid to DCPS because so far the schools seem to do an OK job educating him. If your argument is “all DCPS schools should be equally bad and you have no right to expect your child to receive a grade-level education,” I don’t really know what to say.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope all these inspired Ward 6 parents have already filled out their lottery applications and have Miner ranked #1.

Using Maury kids as pawns in an experiment that has already failed on the Hill instead of your own is high level hypocrisy.



It's not hypocritical-- many of us send our kids to schools like Payne, Watkins, JO, Van Ness, and Tyler (my kids' school is on this list). I don't have to prove my bona fides to you. I am already doing my part to create truly integrated Ward 6 schools and support the education of at risk students in my school. I don't need to lottery for Miner because I'm already doing it somewhere else.

Your turn.


DP. My went from Maury to EH - are you going to send your kid to the IB MS? The fact is, zero parents (including black and lower SES) make school choices based on some abstract sense of “creating a truly integrated Ward 6.” That’s nonsense.


I 100% made school choices out of a belief in integrated schools. In fact, we were offered a lottery spot at one of the coveted Hill schools and turned it down to stay at our school with a higher at risk percentage. Again, I dare you to call me a hypocrite. I walk the walk.


How old? And will you send your kid to Eastern? There are a very small minority who tell themselves this, but understand there are more important priorities later. I mean if you are saving for college in a 529 that in and of itself is prioritizing educational factors other than diversity.


Mid-elementary (as in has taken PARCC), we 100% will go to our feeder MS. Have not made a decision either way on Eastern. Regardless, whatever HS our kids attended will be both racially and socioeconomically diverse. I grew up going to schools like this and I think it made me a better person, and I am committed to giving my own kids that opportunity.


lol. such a hypocrite.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope all these inspired Ward 6 parents have already filled out their lottery applications and have Miner ranked #1.

Using Maury kids as pawns in an experiment that has already failed on the Hill instead of your own is high level hypocrisy.



It's not hypocritical-- many of us send our kids to schools like Payne, Watkins, JO, Van Ness, and Tyler (my kids' school is on this list). I don't have to prove my bona fides to you. I am already doing my part to create truly integrated Ward 6 schools and support the education of at risk students in my school. I don't need to lottery for Miner because I'm already doing it somewhere else.

Your turn.


DP. My went from Maury to EH - are you going to send your kid to the IB MS? The fact is, zero parents (including black and lower SES) make school choices based on some abstract sense of “creating a truly integrated Ward 6.” That’s nonsense.


I 100% made school choices out of a belief in integrated schools. In fact, we were offered a lottery spot at one of the coveted Hill schools and turned it down to stay at our school with a higher at risk percentage. Again, I dare you to call me a hypocrite. I walk the walk.


Ok, weirdo.

-DP


I love that this is the response to someone stating that they chose to attend an IB school with a high at risk percentage over lotterying into a school with a low at risk percentage, even though this is precisely the choice Maury families are demanding Miner IB families make in order to fix Miner without requiring a cluster.

DCUM never disappoints. It's hypocrisy and nonsense all the way down.


It’s because a) there are an extremely small number of parents who actually choose a lower-performing school specifically for “diversity”; and b) the PP is a self-aggrandizing scold because they no dount chose a decent IB rather than lotterying into a higher risk Hill school, and admit that they won’t send their kid to Eastern.
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Anonymous wrote:Data point: Payne is doing overall really well recently. It is 34% at-risk.


Imagine if Payne continued this trajectory and a Miner-Maury cluster got it's at risk percentage to 30% or less. Then imagine EH gets its at risk percentage down to 30% or less. Now look at the trajectory of LT, and the potential for JOW to capitalize on the decline of Two Rivers and its new building to follow suit, and the impact this could have on SH. Now consider that Amidon-Bowen has also received increased neighborhood buy-in recently and is ALSO slated for an upcoming renovation, and it feeds to Jefferson along with Brent.

Now remember all of this happens and what the impact could be on Eastern High School.

But it requires families in Ward 6 to work together, instead of being pitted against each other. It means acting in collective interest instead of individual self-interest. Which is the entire premise behind public education.


I love the idyllic picture you have painted of a world in which we have managed to get rid of most of the poors.


Alternatively -- a world in which poor people who live in Ward 6 are better served by Ward 6 schools because they are good across the board instead of becoming landing places for poor children from the entire East side.

We're not talking about getting the at risk percentage to zero, we're talking about getting it down to a manageable percentage that actually allows schools to serve both at risk and non-at-risk at the same time.


The borders of Ward 6 are every bit as arbitrary as the borders of the Maury and Miner zones.

While we're at it, by my reckoning the at-risk percentage across CH schools is about 25%, so the proposed cluster overcorrects Maury by quite a bit. If we correct SWS, Peabody, LT, CHMS, and most of all Brent up to 25%, that would be much more fair.


Agree. A Miner-SWS cluster actually makes the most sense. Give Miner IB rights to SWS and fill the rest of the seats in the lottery.


LT families tried to get IB rights to SWS 10 years ago and DCPS refused.


I think it was actually going to be a proximity preference that would mostly apply to LT students (since SWS is in the LT IB), but actually (ironically) likely would have applied to some Miner families as well given the distance discussions.

I'm glad DCPS said no, given the enormous improvement in IB buy-in LT has made since then. 10 years ago, LT was 297 students; this year it has 487. It was 77% Black, 12% white & only 23% IB; I can't find the at risk percentage, because everything from the time just reports it as 99% FARMS because of its T1 status. It had a principal who was extremely antagonistic to IB parents and told them it was not their school during an open house. However, the metrics of student performance & growth and teacher retention, discipline, etc were actually incredibly solid. When a new principal came in a few years later and aggressively courted IB families while maintaining teacher support, everything started to change fast because the fundamentals for a good school were in place. Last year (so 9 years later), it was 34% Black, 49% white, 60% IB & 17% at risk; given the 50 additional students LT added this school year, I think these trends will only accelerate. The point is, change can actually come from within if the building blocks are in place. Yes, the LT IB demographics are different than the Miner demographics (although note that Miner already has a higher percentage of white kids than LT did only 9 years ago), but LT had solid test scores and school fundamentals before IB families came when it was heavily minority, OOB and at-risk. The school was never failing even if it was unpopular with IB families. The IB families followed a very good & welcoming principal and solid fundamentals; if Miner gets those pieces in place, IB families will come. 9 years is nothing in DCPS land, it's one single boundary review. Just think: When these conversations were happening 10 years ago, LT demographically (which is what DME is focused on) was very similar to Miner now only with LESS IB buy-in.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope all these inspired Ward 6 parents have already filled out their lottery applications and have Miner ranked #1.

Using Maury kids as pawns in an experiment that has already failed on the Hill instead of your own is high level hypocrisy.



It's not hypocritical-- many of us send our kids to schools like Payne, Watkins, JO, Van Ness, and Tyler (my kids' school is on this list). I don't have to prove my bona fides to you. I am already doing my part to create truly integrated Ward 6 schools and support the education of at risk students in my school. I don't need to lottery for Miner because I'm already doing it somewhere else.

Your turn.


DP. My went from Maury to EH - are you going to send your kid to the IB MS? The fact is, zero parents (including black and lower SES) make school choices based on some abstract sense of “creating a truly integrated Ward 6.” That’s nonsense.


I 100% made school choices out of a belief in integrated schools. In fact, we were offered a lottery spot at one of the coveted Hill schools and turned it down to stay at our school with a higher at risk percentage. Again, I dare you to call me a hypocrite. I walk the walk.


Ok, weirdo.

-DP


I love that this is the response to someone stating that they chose to attend an IB school with a high at risk percentage over lotterying into a school with a low at risk percentage, even though this is precisely the choice Maury families are demanding Miner IB families make in order to fix Miner without requiring a cluster.

DCUM never disappoints. It's hypocrisy and nonsense all the way down.


They allegedly chose to attend their IB school due to some white savior complex. At best, they're IB for Payne and patting themselves on the back for supporting "integration." But more likely, they're a troll.


Y'all are so convinced that everyone is as self-serving and value-free as you are. It's actually sad.


It's not "self-serving" to pick the school you think is best for your kids, often at significant cost to yourself. That's actually a much more recognizable value to most parents.
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Love the people who believe the status quo, in which we have three high performing elementary schools and a host of low performing elementary schools on the hill, three middle schools with weak IB buy in as many families choose to lottery for charters or move, and a high school with 75% of students at risk and 0% of students scoring at or above grade level in math (not a typo, you read that right).

There are such a weird number of parents on here who are like "Yes that is fine as long as my kids attend one of the three high performing elementaries, I will just lottery for Latin and Basis and if that doesn't work, pay for private or move. All good, this is normal and it should stay this way."

Bananas.
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Anonymous wrote:Data point: Payne is doing overall really well recently. It is 34% at-risk.


Imagine if Payne continued this trajectory and a Miner-Maury cluster got it's at risk percentage to 30% or less. Then imagine EH gets its at risk percentage down to 30% or less. Now look at the trajectory of LT, and the potential for JOW to capitalize on the decline of Two Rivers and its new building to follow suit, and the impact this could have on SH. Now consider that Amidon-Bowen has also received increased neighborhood buy-in recently and is ALSO slated for an upcoming renovation, and it feeds to Jefferson along with Brent.

Now remember all of this happens and what the impact could be on Eastern High School.

But it requires families in Ward 6 to work together, instead of being pitted against each other. It means acting in collective interest instead of individual self-interest. Which is the entire premise behind public education.


I love the idyllic picture you have painted of a world in which we have managed to get rid of most of the poors.


Alternatively -- a world in which poor people who live in Ward 6 are better served by Ward 6 schools because they are good across the board instead of becoming landing places for poor children from the entire East side.

We're not talking about getting the at risk percentage to zero, we're talking about getting it down to a manageable percentage that actually allows schools to serve both at risk and non-at-risk at the same time.


The borders of Ward 6 are every bit as arbitrary as the borders of the Maury and Miner zones.

While we're at it, by my reckoning the at-risk percentage across CH schools is about 25%, so the proposed cluster overcorrects Maury by quite a bit. If we correct SWS, Peabody, LT, CHMS, and most of all Brent up to 25%, that would be much more fair.


Agree. A Miner-SWS cluster actually makes the most sense. Give Miner IB rights to SWS and fill the rest of the seats in the lottery.


LT families tried to get IB rights to SWS 10 years ago and DCPS refused.


I think it was actually going to be a proximity preference that would mostly apply to LT students (since SWS is in the LT IB), but actually (ironically) likely would have applied to some Miner families as well given the distance discussions.

I'm glad DCPS said no, given the enormous improvement in IB buy-in LT has made since then. 10 years ago, LT was 297 students; this year it has 487. It was 77% Black, 12% white & only 23% IB; I can't find the at risk percentage, because everything from the time just reports it as 99% FARMS because of its T1 status. It had a principal who was extremely antagonistic to IB parents and told them it was not their school during an open house. However, the metrics of student performance & growth and teacher retention, discipline, etc were actually incredibly solid. When a new principal came in a few years later and aggressively courted IB families while maintaining teacher support, everything started to change fast because the fundamentals for a good school were in place. Last year (so 9 years later), it was 34% Black, 49% white, 60% IB & 17% at risk; given the 50 additional students LT added this school year, I think these trends will only accelerate. The point is, change can actually come from within if the building blocks are in place. Yes, the LT IB demographics are different than the Miner demographics (although note that Miner already has a higher percentage of white kids than LT did only 9 years ago), but LT had solid test scores and school fundamentals before IB families came when it was heavily minority, OOB and at-risk. The school was never failing even if it was unpopular with IB families. The IB families followed a very good & welcoming principal and solid fundamentals; if Miner gets those pieces in place, IB families will come. 9 years is nothing in DCPS land, it's one single boundary review. Just think: When these conversations were happening 10 years ago, LT demographically (which is what DME is focused on) was very similar to Miner now only with LESS IB buy-in.


The problem is that the bolded cannot currently be said for Miner. LT was able to rapidly get IB buy in when it got a principal who was not openly hostile to IB families because LT already had proven it could educate kids -- it had and still has phenomenal staff who get results with kids from all backgrounds.

Miner can't say the same, and that will stand in the way of IB buy in even if they get a principal who focuses on welcoming IB families, which by itself is hard because politically things are different now than they were 9 years ago and it's actually harder to openly welcoming IB, UMC white families to a title 1 school today than it was back then.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope all these inspired Ward 6 parents have already filled out their lottery applications and have Miner ranked #1.

Using Maury kids as pawns in an experiment that has already failed on the Hill instead of your own is high level hypocrisy.



It's not hypocritical-- many of us send our kids to schools like Payne, Watkins, JO, Van Ness, and Tyler (my kids' school is on this list). I don't have to prove my bona fides to you. I am already doing my part to create truly integrated Ward 6 schools and support the education of at risk students in my school. I don't need to lottery for Miner because I'm already doing it somewhere else.

Your turn.


DP. My went from Maury to EH - are you going to send your kid to the IB MS? The fact is, zero parents (including black and lower SES) make school choices based on some abstract sense of “creating a truly integrated Ward 6.” That’s nonsense.


I 100% made school choices out of a belief in integrated schools. In fact, we were offered a lottery spot at one of the coveted Hill schools and turned it down to stay at our school with a higher at risk percentage. Again, I dare you to call me a hypocrite. I walk the walk.


Ok, weirdo.

-DP


I love that this is the response to someone stating that they chose to attend an IB school with a high at risk percentage over lotterying into a school with a low at risk percentage, even though this is precisely the choice Maury families are demanding Miner IB families make in order to fix Miner without requiring a cluster.

DCUM never disappoints. It's hypocrisy and nonsense all the way down.


They allegedly chose to attend their IB school due to some white savior complex. At best, they're IB for Payne and patting themselves on the back for supporting "integration." But more likely, they're a troll.


Y'all are so convinced that everyone is as self-serving and value-free as you are. It's actually sad.


It's not "self-serving" to pick the school you think is best for your kids, often at significant cost to yourself. That's actually a much more recognizable value to most parents.


It is self-serving to argue that your strong public elementary school should not be part of the solution for addressing serious inequities and poor outcomes at a neighboring public elementary school.

Maury families want to keep their low at risk percentage and watch Miner burn.
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