Since this is anonymous, why did you REALLY redshirt your kid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I honestly think there is one (or at most a few) really disgruntled anti-redshirter out there posting similar comments on every thread about this subject. Give it a rest already

[Anonymous]

For us, redshirting was the right decision for our son. However, friends who didn't redshirt their son, kept pointing out, every time their son was behind on reading, writing, behavior issues, speech, etc., how our son was so much older than their son. It became really annoying. Just do what you think is right for your child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

You do realize that private schools usually have different cutoffs from one another , and many states do as well, right? That negates the effects of redshirting. My 2022 kid would be a 2021 if we lived in New York. If your kid is applying to Harvard he or she is competing against kids at BS who repeat a grade in high school. International kids who graduated from high school in the January before they apply because that’s when their school year ends. Trust me, the Harvard application pool isn’t all 17/18 year olds and a lone 19 year old. Harvard doesn’t admit someone just because they are Val or Sal. Once you pass the academic bar i(which both the Val and sal might) it’s all holistic factors.

[Anonymous]

Pp here. The Harvard waitlist isn’t ordered either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

You've got serious problems lady, but they sure aren't redshirted kids. And mine wasn't redshirted. I just recognize privileged crazy when I see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

You do realize that private schools usually have different cutoffs from one another , and many states do as well, right? That negates the effects of redshirting. My 2022 kid would be a 2021 if we lived in New York. If your kid is applying to Harvard he or she is competing against kids at BS who repeat a grade in high school. International kids who graduated from high school in the January before they apply because that’s when their school year ends. Trust me, the Harvard application pool isn’t all 17/18 year olds and a lone 19 year old. Harvard doesn’t admit someone just because they are Val or Sal. Once you pass the academic bar i(which both the Val and sal might) it’s all holistic factors.

There’s also lots of Canadian kids who are an year older bc of their education system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

Okay. As you seem to be worried about unjust advantages, I assume you will also bar kids from "good" school districts, kids in private schools, kids who can afford outside tutoring, and kids who are born to wealthy parents. Those kids did nothing to deserve those advantages and those advantages have a far, far more significant impact on poorer kids than redshirting. Looking forward to hearing you walk the walk. Or are you just s hypocrite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

Okay. As you seem to be worried about unjust advantages, I assume you will also bar kids from "good" school districts, kids in private schools, kids who can afford outside tutoring, and kids who are born to wealthy parents. Those kids did nothing to deserve those advantages and those advantages have a far, far more significant impact on poorer kids than redshirting. Looking forward to hearing you walk the walk. Or are you just s hypocrite?

Usually, all the kids from a school have similar backgrounds. So a kid from a wealthy family is most likely going to go to a school where his or her classmates are also from wealthy families and will, therefore, only be competing against other kids from wealthy backgrounds. Conversely, a kid from a poor family is most likely going to go to a school where his or her classmates are also from poor families and will, therefore, only be competing against other kids from boor backgrounds. And usually, you have to take, and pass, a test to get into a private school, so a kid at a private school probably did earn that advantage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

Okay. As you seem to be worried about unjust advantages, I assume you will also bar kids from "good" school districts, kids in private schools, kids who can afford outside tutoring, and kids who are born to wealthy parents. Those kids did nothing to deserve those advantages and those advantages have a far, far more significant impact on poorer kids than redshirting. Looking forward to hearing you walk the walk. Or are you just s hypocrite?

Usually, all the kids from a school have similar backgrounds. So a kid from a wealthy family is most likely going to go to a school where his or her classmates are also from wealthy families and will, therefore, only be competing against other kids from wealthy backgrounds. Conversely, a kid from a poor family is most likely going to go to a school where his or her classmates are also from poor families and will, therefore, only be competing against other kids from boor backgrounds. And usually, you have to take, and pass, a test to get into a private school, so a kid at a private school probably did earn that advantage.

My kids go to actually diverse public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tried to have a baby for 12 years. I finally had my son at age 42, after a very long, expensive journey. He’s a July baby, and I wanted the extra year with him. He will graduate at age 18, go to college at 19.

A kid with a July birthday is pretty close to the middle. In fact, someone born on July 1st would be on the older half, as July 2nd is the middle day of a non-leap-year and the first day on the later half of a leap-year. Someone born after July 2nd would be slightly on the younger half, but nowhere near the youngest. Even if he was born on July 31st, he would've been older than roughly 42 percent of his classmates. I can understanding redshirting someone born betweenOctober and December, but redshirting someone who's roughly in the middle just seems a bit greedy.

What? I assume the school had a sept cutoff?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

Okay. As you seem to be worried about unjust advantages, I assume you will also bar kids from "good" school districts, kids in private schools, kids who can afford outside tutoring, and kids who are born to wealthy parents. Those kids did nothing to deserve those advantages and those advantages have a far, far more significant impact on poorer kids than redshirting. Looking forward to hearing you walk the walk. Or are you just s hypocrite?

Usually, all the kids from a school have similar backgrounds. So a kid from a wealthy family is most likely going to go to a school where his or her classmates are also from wealthy families and will, therefore, only be competing against other kids from wealthy backgrounds. Conversely, a kid from a poor family is most likely going to go to a school where his or her classmates are also from poor families and will, therefore, only be competing against other kids from boor backgrounds. And usually, you have to take, and pass, a test to get into a private school, so a kid at a private school probably did earn that advantage.

So the answer is "Yes, I am a giant hypocrite."

Well, that much was obvious.

[Anonymous]

Interestingly (maybe), I have b/g twins and the school suggested that we not wait, even though we were open to it. They told us the b actually came across as very mature and ready, insinuating that if anything the g was a bit immature—but that she would prob catch up. We kind of suspected this was the case. We sent them that year and all was fine.

[Anonymous]

PP here, I hit “submit” before I was really ready. We had family discussions of whether we should hold them back a year for her benefit more than his. We seriously considered it. It ended up being fine, as I said, for both of them. BUT honestly she could have probably benefited more from waiting a year, and sometimes we wish we’d done it.

[Anonymous]

Our preschool teacher recommended it because our DS, whose birthday was right on the cut off, was shy. I almost cried, I was so ready for him to start kindergarten, and I asked her repeatedly as we neared the end of the school year if she still felt the same way. She did, so I signed him up for one more year of preschool.

I think he would have been fine if he had gone to school with his peers. He still had a difficult time relaxing in the beginning of each school year anyway, which was his only issue, so it didn't really help him to wait. He's not an athlete so it didn't benefit him that way, and he's also off the charts smart so I don't think he had an advantage academically either. So all in all, I really don't think it was a benefit.

I know kids who skipped a grade who are sort of left out socially as kids enter puberty. That seems worse.