We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity

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Anonymous wrote:Let me summarize once again: no one is saying healthy eating and exercise aren’t good practices. People are saying that OP’s post reeked of her own disordered thinking - SEPARATE from those practices - and likely caused her kids issues in the first place.

Yes, this is a perfect description.

No, I think only one or a couple of you are doing this, and you're admitting that you're making assumptions about what you think is really going on. YOU sound like you have baggage around this and are projecting it onto OP.

Huh? You think it’s normal to act like grapes and bananas are unhealthy?

The kid I knew whose mom was like OP would literally eat crumbs from under the table in pre-K because she’d internalized that there wasn’t going to be enough food given to sustain her and also that eating was shameful.

Me: MD said not to restrict any food so I didn’t. Which surprised me because everyone knows that grapes, bananas, and puffs are junk food! And my baby was overweight at 8 pounds!! And finished off bottles.
You: OP is like a mom I knew whose kid had to lick crumbs off the floor

Any doubt it’s you, not me, who has issues?

Fixed that for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The child psychiatrists at our hospital have started looking at behavioral interventions for kids who are overweight as well (we give a lot of drugs that cause weight gain). They were looking at younger kids, but they found exactly the same thing. Food restrictions didn’t work at all. Therapy and cognitive interventions for kids and parents didn’t work. Teaching parents new, healthy recipes didn’t work. The only thing that worked was adding more fruits and veggies and increased exercise.

I thought - and I say this is someone who exercises a ton, so I wish it weren’t the case – that exercise has been proven to not make much of a difference when it comes to weight. As in, it’s all about diet. Is that not the same for kids? Asking seriously.

It’s true for overweight women. My guess, and I would have to go back and look at it, but I think it has something to do with the fact that overweight adults tend to already have some level of insulin resistance as well as decreased leptin levels and ghrelin is expressed at inappropriate times, so hunger and fullness signals are kind of screwed up.
My guess is that this isn’t true in most young children. But we didn’t measure these kinds of things in the study. So, I don’t really know.

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Anonymous wrote:A healthy diet eaten in moderation and daily exercise cures obesity. Who knew? lol

Some people in this thread think this is a disordered approach.

No they don’t. They think someone acting like this is a revelation (and dropping other flags all over the field) clearly is struggling to overcome disordered thinking.

THIS.

Well if it’s so obvious why don’t more people do it?

I agree. I think people are just jealous that op was able to do something

No not jealous. "cured" is a terrible vocabulary word to have used.

Why is it terrible?

Still waiting on the answer to this. Why is “cured” a “terrible vocabulary word” here?

[Anonymous]

I would ‘t use cured inly because weight control is a life time issue for most people. While different, you don’t cure someone with an addiction, treatment is a lifetime dedication to remaining sober. I would argue that most people have to dedicate themselves to eating healthy and getting some type of exercise in order to stay at a healthy. So you don’t cure someone when they get to a healthy weight but hope that you have established a healthy lifestyle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would ‘t use cured inly because weight control is a life time issue for most people. While different, you don’t cure someone with an addiction, treatment is a lifetime dedication to remaining sober. I would argue that most people have to dedicate themselves to eating healthy and getting some type of exercise in order to stay at a healthy. So you don’t cure someone when they get to a healthy weight but hope that you have established a healthy lifestyle.

OP’s child HAS established a healthy lifestyle now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let me summarize once again: no one is saying healthy eating and exercise aren’t good practices. People are saying that OP’s post reeked of her own disordered thinking - SEPARATE from those practices - and likely caused her kids issues in the first place.

Yes, this is a perfect description.

No, I think only one or a couple of you are doing this, and you're admitting that you're making assumptions about what you think is really going on. YOU sound like you have baggage around this and are projecting it onto OP.

Huh? You think it’s normal to act like grapes and bananas are unhealthy?

The kid I knew whose mom was like OP would literally eat crumbs from under the table in pre-K because she’d internalized that there wasn’t going to be enough food given to sustain her and also that eating was shameful.

Me: MD said not to restrict any food so I didn’t. Which surprised me because everyone knows that grapes, bananas, and puffs are junk food! And my baby was overweight at 8 pounds!! And finished off bottles.
You: OP is like a mom I knew whose kid had to lick crumbs off the floor

Any doubt it’s you, not me, who has issues?

Fixed that for you.

Lol exactly. Op, just stop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let me summarize once again: no one is saying healthy eating and exercise aren’t good practices. People are saying that OP’s post reeked of her own disordered thinking - SEPARATE from those practices - and likely caused her kids issues in the first place.

Yes, this is a perfect description.

No, I think only one or a couple of you are doing this, and you're admitting that you're making assumptions about what you think is really going on. YOU sound like you have baggage around this and are projecting it onto OP.

Huh? You think it’s normal to act like grapes and bananas are unhealthy?

The kid I knew whose mom was like OP would literally eat crumbs from under the table in pre-K because she’d internalized that there wasn’t going to be enough food given to sustain her and also that eating was shameful.

Me: MD said not to restrict any food so I didn’t. Which surprised me because everyone knows that grapes, bananas, and puffs are junk food! And my baby was overweight at 8 pounds!! And finished off bottles.
You: OP is like a mom I knew whose kid had to lick crumbs off the floor

Any doubt it’s you, not me, who has issues?

Fixed that for you.

Lol exactly. Op, just stop.

Just stop?

Why are you laughing at a mother who has changed her DD's diet, her lifestyle, to control her weight?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would ‘t use cured inly because weight control is a life time issue for most people. While different, you don’t cure someone with an addiction, treatment is a lifetime dedication to remaining sober. I would argue that most people have to dedicate themselves to eating healthy and getting some type of exercise in order to stay at a healthy. So you don’t cure someone when they get to a healthy weight but hope that you have established a healthy lifestyle.

OP’s child HAS established a healthy lifestyle now. [/quote

No from the tone and wording of her post she has not.

What she has done is "controlled" her child. There is a long term difference.

She had her kid pegged as being obese from day one. Many infants "drain their bottles" and are not satiated.

It's more her problem than her child's.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A healthy diet eaten in moderation and daily exercise cures obesity. Who knew? lol

Some people in this thread think this is a disordered approach.

No they don’t. They think someone acting like this is a revelation (and dropping other flags all over the field) clearly is struggling to overcome disordered thinking.

THIS.

Well if it’s so obvious why don’t more people do it?

I agree. I think people are just jealous that op was able to do something

No not jealous. "cured" is a terrible vocabulary word to have used.

Why is it terrible?

Still waiting on the answer to this. Why is “cured” a “terrible vocabulary word” here?

Really? "Cured". What about the definition of the word "cure" in this context do you not understand? It's a horrible word to use about weight loss or weight struggles. What is she going to do follow her DC around her whole life with a scale? Or police her activity levels or her food intake when her DC is say 21 and in college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The child psychiatrists at our hospital have started looking at behavioral interventions for kids who are overweight as well (we give a lot of drugs that cause weight gain). They were looking at younger kids, but they found exactly the same thing. Food restrictions didn’t work at all. Therapy and cognitive interventions for kids and parents didn’t work. Teaching parents new, healthy recipes didn’t work. The only thing that worked was adding more fruits and veggies and increased exercise.

Wow so weird child psychiatrists would recommend then what is apparently horrible parenting, disordered thinking, and a cocktail for eating disorders, according to a couple commenters on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A healthy diet eaten in moderation and daily exercise cures obesity. Who knew? lol

Some people in this thread think this is a disordered approach.

No they don’t. They think someone acting like this is a revelation (and dropping other flags all over the field) clearly is struggling to overcome disordered thinking.

THIS.

Well if it’s so obvious why don’t more people do it?

I agree. I think people are just jealous that op was able to do something

No not jealous. "cured" is a terrible vocabulary word to have used.

Why is it terrible?

Still waiting on the answer to this. Why is “cured” a “terrible vocabulary word” here?

Really? "Cured". What about the definition of the word "cure" in this context do you not understand? It's a horrible word to use about weight loss or weight struggles. What is she going to do follow her DC around her whole life with a scale? Or police her activity levels or her food intake when her DC is say 21 and in college?

Cancer has a tendency to recur. Should people who have beaten cancer be banned from using the word “cured” because it may well recur?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A healthy diet eaten in moderation and daily exercise cures obesity. Who knew? lol

Some people in this thread think this is a disordered approach.

No they don’t. They think someone acting like this is a revelation (and dropping other flags all over the field) clearly is struggling to overcome disordered thinking.

THIS.

Well if it’s so obvious why don’t more people do it?

I agree. I think people are just jealous that op was able to do something

No not jealous. "cured" is a terrible vocabulary word to have used.

Why is it terrible?

Still waiting on the answer to this. Why is “cured” a “terrible vocabulary word” here?

Really? "Cured". What about the definition of the word "cure" in this context do you not understand? It's a horrible word to use about weight loss or weight struggles. What is she going to do follow her DC around her whole life with a scale? Or police her activity levels or her food intake when her DC is say 21 and in college?

Cancer has a tendency to recur. Should people who have beaten cancer be banned from using the word “cured” because it may well recur?

No! If she had posted about an illness like cancer then "cured" would be a good or excellent vocabulary word.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would ‘t use cured inly because weight control is a life time issue for most people. While different, you don’t cure someone with an addiction, treatment is a lifetime dedication to remaining sober. I would argue that most people have to dedicate themselves to eating healthy and getting some type of exercise in order to stay at a healthy. So you don’t cure someone when they get to a healthy weight but hope that you have established a healthy lifestyle.

OP’s child HAS established a healthy lifestyle now.

No from the tone and wording of her post she has not.

What she has done is "controlled" her child. There is a long term difference.

She had her kid pegged as being obese from day one. Many infants "drain their bottles" and are not satiated.

It's more her problem than her child's.

Y'all are beyond words.

We all control what our children eat and what activities they do, when they're little.

This is a low even for DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A healthy diet eaten in moderation and daily exercise cures obesity. Who knew? lol

Some people in this thread think this is a disordered approach.

No they don’t. They think someone acting like this is a revelation (and dropping other flags all over the field) clearly is struggling to overcome disordered thinking.

THIS.

Well if it’s so obvious why don’t more people do it?

I agree. I think people are just jealous that op was able to do something

No not jealous. "cured" is a terrible vocabulary word to have used.

Why is it terrible?

Still waiting on the answer to this. Why is “cured” a “terrible vocabulary word” here?

Really? "Cured". What about the definition of the word "cure" in this context do you not understand? It's a horrible word to use about weight loss or weight struggles. What is she going to do follow her DC around her whole life with a scale? Or police her activity levels or her food intake when her DC is say 21 and in college?

As someone currently struggling with their weight, I think cured is the appropriate word. While we continue to maintain that obesity is a diagnosis, and a protected disability (i.e.. you can't kick someone off a plane because they're too fat to sit in the seat in a way where it's comfortable for the next passenger, etc) then cured is the right word. You (we) can't have it both ways. Either obesity is considered some sort of illness or it isn't.

If obesity is not a diagnosis and not a disability then people should be able to be discriminated against for it, when it's something that negatively affects the business and/or other customers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A healthy diet eaten in moderation and daily exercise cures obesity. Who knew? lol

Some people in this thread think this is a disordered approach.

No they don’t. They think someone acting like this is a revelation (and dropping other flags all over the field) clearly is struggling to overcome disordered thinking.

THIS.

Well if it’s so obvious why don’t more people do it?

I agree. I think people are just jealous that op was able to do something

No not jealous. "cured" is a terrible vocabulary word to have used.

Why is it terrible?

Still waiting on the answer to this. Why is “cured” a “terrible vocabulary word” here?

Really? "Cured". What about the definition of the word "cure" in this context do you not understand? It's a horrible word to use about weight loss or weight struggles. What is she going to do follow her DC around her whole life with a scale? Or police her activity levels or her food intake when her DC is say 21 and in college?

Cancer has a tendency to recur. Should people who have beaten cancer be banned from using the word “cured” because it may well recur?

No! If she had posted about an illness like cancer then "cured" would be a good or excellent vocabulary word.

Childhood obesity is an illness.