Is “WASP” culture still a thing?

[Anonymous]

Yes it does. And if you have to ask... youre not meant to know about it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure if I qualify as a WASP and I don't really care whether I do or not.

I'm white, some of my heritage is Anglo-Saxon but not the majority of it, and I went to a Protestant church when I was a kid but haven't been in over 20 years. I never belonged to a Country Club and I'm not rich. My family is from Ohio, not New England. Are Midwestern, Scandinavian-desent, agnostics "WASP"s?

nope- you are not a wasp, Scandinavian heritage is still "ethnic white" especially in the midwest where the cultural roots are strong.

There are "waspy" families of Scandinavian and German heritages. WASPs were always more than just Boston or Philadelphia Anglo Saxon Protestant. Old money Midwestern cities are as traditional as they come and have strong doses of German and Scandinavian heritages.

Those are old money and WASP adjacent but true WASPs are rooted on the east coast, occasionally in certain glamorous west coast cities like San Francisco or Los Angeles. Midwestern German stock white people with their green bean casseroles are not WASP culture (though there are many similarities and lots of overlap)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure if I qualify as a WASP and I don't really care whether I do or not.

I'm white, some of my heritage is Anglo-Saxon but not the majority of it, and I went to a Protestant church when I was a kid but haven't been in over 20 years. I never belonged to a Country Club and I'm not rich. My family is from Ohio, not New England. Are Midwestern, Scandinavian-desent, agnostics "WASP"s?

nope- you are not a wasp, Scandinavian heritage is still "ethnic white" especially in the midwest where the cultural roots are strong.

There are "waspy" families of Scandinavian and German heritages. WASPs were always more than just Boston or Philadelphia Anglo Saxon Protestant. Old money Midwestern cities are as traditional as they come and have strong doses of German and Scandinavian heritages.

No one is saying that Old money families of Scandinavian or German heritage don’t exist, especially in the Midwest, we’re just saying they are very distinct in their culture and are really, really not WASPy in their views, outlooks, etc. even if they do go to country clubs and send their kids to private school, etc.

—signed a a Jew who sees a huge difference between the two groups and who has always felt significantly more comfortable around WASPs than with rich Midwestern German/Scandinavian “waspy” types.

I think the polite response is "whatever." I'm not quite sure what this idealized WASP is. For some people it's listening to NPR!

Can someone point out a real example of a WASP?

Whatever, feel better? This whole thread and the very term itself is full of proper descriptions of who a WASP person is. For whatever reason, you don’t like that definition, so you’re choosing to ignore it.

Let’s start with the basics: 1)White 2) Anglo Saxon 3)Protestant. If a person does not satisfy those three categories he or she is not a WASP.

A prime example of a WASP is the very person who coined the term: E. Digby Baltzell. Here is a link to his wiki page:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Digby_Baltzell

I’m not sure why this definition is so confusing (hint it has nothing to do with NPR) or as you say, “idealized.” It just is what it is. If you’ve seen them roaming about in their native habitats, WASPs are quite easy to recognize. And yes, they do still exist.

I'm puzzled because I'm a) white, b) Anglo-Saxon, c) Protestant, and grew up in a world most people would vaguely recognize as waspy, including the boarding schools, summering in New England, 19th-century family portraits and old inherited silver and a few ancestors who were prominent figures. And I find all these descriptions somewhat peculiar and amazingly rigid and narrow.

What about these descriptions is “peculiar and amazingly rigid and narrow?” Would you prefer if we said Snoop Dog was also a WASP? Or perhaps just Martha Stewart would do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I totally disagree that *the stereotypes* of wealthy wealthy Jews and WASPS are similar. Note: I am not talking individuals, just the types.

Yes education is important to both but the personality types couldn't be more diametrically opposed: frank, candid, direct, loud vs reserved, inhibited, discreet, quiet. Warm with family and throw big parties vs cold and don't serve enough food. Again, stereotypes... but they are pretty much diametrically opposed.

I grew up in New England among both communities and the WASP culture was a strong presence in my high school and even college, but much more so among friends' parents and grandparents. I don't see it as much anymore. For one thing prep schools and Ivies are no longer WASP bastions so pretty much everything is different. Are there still pockets of exclusivity and is there still a certain style? Yes, but it is disappearing. In my opinion this is mostly a good thing, but also too bad in certain ways.

I agree with this assessment. I would, however, say that many WASPs stepped away from the Ivies (about a generation ago) because they realized they were a bad investment. I think Jews are reluctantly coming around to that same position, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I totally disagree that *the stereotypes* of wealthy wealthy Jews and WASPS are similar. Note: I am not talking individuals, just the types.

Yes education is important to both but the personality types couldn't be more diametrically opposed: frank, candid, direct, loud vs reserved, inhibited, discreet, quiet. Warm with family and throw big parties vs cold and don't serve enough food. Again, stereotypes... but they are pretty much diametrically opposed.

I grew up in New England among both communities and the WASP culture was a strong presence in my high school and even college, but much more so among friends' parents and grandparents. I don't see it as much anymore. For one thing prep schools and Ivies are no longer WASP bastions so pretty much everything is different. Are there still pockets of exclusivity and is there still a certain style? Yes, but it is disappearing. In my opinion this is mostly a good thing, but also too bad in certain ways.

Gee, this doesn't sound biased at all 🤔 I guess I could fire back some fairly rude assessments of Jews and start praising WASPs but I have a feeling that wouldn't be allowed. Although I agree with you the groups are NOT similar in the slightest.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally disagree that *the stereotypes* of wealthy wealthy Jews and WASPS are similar. Note: I am not talking individuals, just the types.

Yes education is important to both but the personality types couldn't be more diametrically opposed: frank, candid, direct, loud vs reserved, inhibited, discreet, quiet. Warm with family and throw big parties vs cold and don't serve enough food. Again, stereotypes... but they are pretty much diametrically opposed.

I grew up in New England among both communities and the WASP culture was a strong presence in my high school and even college, but much more so among friends' parents and grandparents. I don't see it as much anymore. For one thing prep schools and Ivies are no longer WASP bastions so pretty much everything is different. Are there still pockets of exclusivity and is there still a certain style? Yes, but it is disappearing. In my opinion this is mostly a good thing, but also too bad in certain ways.

I agree with this assessment. I would, however, say that many WASPs stepped away from the Ivies (about a generation ago) because they realized they were a bad investment. I think Jews are reluctantly coming around to that same position, too.

This is funny. WASPs moved away from the Ivies because we can't get in anymore! Everyone through our fathers went to HYP, then my generation (Gen X) could barely get in unless we played squash or rowed, so we ended up at NESCAC schools. Now our own kids can't get into those and are prevalent at Bucknell, Dennison and the like.
It's a sad downward spiral.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally disagree that *the stereotypes* of wealthy wealthy Jews and WASPS are similar. Note: I am not talking individuals, just the types.

Yes education is important to both but the personality types couldn't be more diametrically opposed: frank, candid, direct, loud vs reserved, inhibited, discreet, quiet. Warm with family and throw big parties vs cold and don't serve enough food. Again, stereotypes... but they are pretty much diametrically opposed.

I grew up in New England among both communities and the WASP culture was a strong presence in my high school and even college, but much more so among friends' parents and grandparents. I don't see it as much anymore. For one thing prep schools and Ivies are no longer WASP bastions so pretty much everything is different. Are there still pockets of exclusivity and is there still a certain style? Yes, but it is disappearing. In my opinion this is mostly a good thing, but also too bad in certain ways.

Gee, this doesn't sound biased at all 🤔 I guess I could fire back some fairly rude assessments of Jews and start praising WASPs but I have a feeling that wouldn't be allowed. Although I agree with you the groups are NOT similar in the slightest.

Go for it! I think those stereotypes are right on, especially about the food. Go to a wealthy WASPy wedding and a wealthy Jewish one. Compare the food and get back to me. Yes, the WASPy wedding will be beautiful and have amazing flowers and decor, but for some reason, they are going to scrimp on the food. The Jews will leave the flowers out, if need be, but not the food.

Also, the big elephant in the room difference was left out: Jews are far less likely than WASPs to have an alcohol problem.

Your turn…

[Anonymous]

I'm Jewish and attended a very Waspy New England boarding school. Jews are much more clique-y, Wasps are intensely individualistic to the point of loneliness. Jews can err into gaudiness, Wasps cling to LL Bean/J Crew uniform.

I think the drinking happens in both communities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally disagree that *the stereotypes* of wealthy wealthy Jews and WASPS are similar. Note: I am not talking individuals, just the types.

Yes education is important to both but the personality types couldn't be more diametrically opposed: frank, candid, direct, loud vs reserved, inhibited, discreet, quiet. Warm with family and throw big parties vs cold and don't serve enough food. Again, stereotypes... but they are pretty much diametrically opposed.

I grew up in New England among both communities and the WASP culture was a strong presence in my high school and even college, but much more so among friends' parents and grandparents. I don't see it as much anymore. For one thing prep schools and Ivies are no longer WASP bastions so pretty much everything is different. Are there still pockets of exclusivity and is there still a certain style? Yes, but it is disappearing. In my opinion this is mostly a good thing, but also too bad in certain ways.

Gee, this doesn't sound biased at all 🤔 I guess I could fire back some fairly rude assessments of Jews and start praising WASPs but I have a feeling that wouldn't be allowed. Although I agree with you the groups are NOT similar in the slightest.

Go for it! I think those stereotypes are right on, especially about the food. Go to a wealthy WASPy wedding and a wealthy Jewish one. Compare the food and get back to me. Yes, the WASPy wedding will be beautiful and have amazing flowers and decor, but for some reason, they are going to scrimp on the food. The Jews will leave the flowers out, if need be, but not the food.

Also, the big elephant in the room difference was left out: Jews are far less likely than WASPs to have an alcohol problem.

Your turn…

Alrighty... since you've asked me to... grasping strivers, loud, new money, ostentatious, pushy/mannerless, cliquey/not welcoming to outsiders, horrible food (gefilte fish?! WTF), trashy, etc.

I will say that as much as you say people dont like WASP weddings, many people pay big bucks to get married in "WASPy" locations with a "WASP" style (which is kind of derived from English style). Not many people getting married in chuppahs despite being Filipino, IJS.

Anyway... each group can have their own judgements of their others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally disagree that *the stereotypes* of wealthy wealthy Jews and WASPS are similar. Note: I am not talking individuals, just the types.

Yes education is important to both but the personality types couldn't be more diametrically opposed: frank, candid, direct, loud vs reserved, inhibited, discreet, quiet. Warm with family and throw big parties vs cold and don't serve enough food. Again, stereotypes... but they are pretty much diametrically opposed.

I grew up in New England among both communities and the WASP culture was a strong presence in my high school and even college, but much more so among friends' parents and grandparents. I don't see it as much anymore. For one thing prep schools and Ivies are no longer WASP bastions so pretty much everything is different. Are there still pockets of exclusivity and is there still a certain style? Yes, but it is disappearing. In my opinion this is mostly a good thing, but also too bad in certain ways.

I agree with this assessment. I would, however, say that many WASPs stepped away from the Ivies (about a generation ago) because they realized they were a bad investment. I think Jews are reluctantly coming around to that same position, too.

This is funny. WASPs moved away from the Ivies because we can't get in anymore! Everyone through our fathers went to HYP, then my generation (Gen X) could barely get in unless we played squash or rowed, so we ended up at NESCAC schools. Now our own kids can't get into those and are prevalent at Bucknell, Dennison and the like.
It's a sad downward spiral.

Agreed, but it was because your parents didn’t feel like paying extra to help you get in. Just as you WISELY don’t feel like doing that for your kids. If you really wanted to, you could find a way to make it happen, but you don’t even bother thinking about it. The Ivies now take that kinda money from foreign students and governments. You’re not missing much.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally disagree that *the stereotypes* of wealthy wealthy Jews and WASPS are similar. Note: I am not talking individuals, just the types.

Yes education is important to both but the personality types couldn't be more diametrically opposed: frank, candid, direct, loud vs reserved, inhibited, discreet, quiet. Warm with family and throw big parties vs cold and don't serve enough food. Again, stereotypes... but they are pretty much diametrically opposed.

I grew up in New England among both communities and the WASP culture was a strong presence in my high school and even college, but much more so among friends' parents and grandparents. I don't see it as much anymore. For one thing prep schools and Ivies are no longer WASP bastions so pretty much everything is different. Are there still pockets of exclusivity and is there still a certain style? Yes, but it is disappearing. In my opinion this is mostly a good thing, but also too bad in certain ways.

Gee, this doesn't sound biased at all 🤔 I guess I could fire back some fairly rude assessments of Jews and start praising WASPs but I have a feeling that wouldn't be allowed. Although I agree with you the groups are NOT similar in the slightest.

Go for it! I think those stereotypes are right on, especially about the food. Go to a wealthy WASPy wedding and a wealthy Jewish one. Compare the food and get back to me. Yes, the WASPy wedding will be beautiful and have amazing flowers and decor, but for some reason, they are going to scrimp on the food. The Jews will leave the flowers out, if need be, but not the food.

Also, the big elephant in the room difference was left out: Jews are far less likely than WASPs to have an alcohol problem.

Your turn…

Alrighty... since you've asked me to... grasping strivers, loud, new money, ostentatious, pushy/mannerless, cliquey/not welcoming to outsiders, horrible food (gefilte fish?! WTF), trashy, etc.

I will say that as much as you say people dont like WASP weddings, many people pay big bucks to get married in "WASPy" locations with a "WASP" style (which is kind of derived from English style). Not many people getting married in chuppahs despite being Filipino, IJS.

Anyway... each group can have their own judgements of their others.

The initial comment that you took offense to called Jews “frank,” “direct” and “loud.” Those were polite euphemisms. But I suppose that it makes you feel classier to spell it out “grasping strivers” and “trashy?”

I said point blank that WASPy weddings are aesthetically beautiful. It’s just that I make a point of eating before I go to one. With a Jewish wedding, I get a workout in first. Don’t even get me started on the lavishness that is an Indian wedding…but I digress. Also, practically every wedding I’ve gone to in the last decade has the bride being given away by both of her parents per Jewish tradition.

I’m not sure why you’re so offended by the descriptions of WASPs. I don’t see them to be very mean at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally disagree that *the stereotypes* of wealthy wealthy Jews and WASPS are similar. Note: I am not talking individuals, just the types.

Yes education is important to both but the personality types couldn't be more diametrically opposed: frank, candid, direct, loud vs reserved, inhibited, discreet, quiet. Warm with family and throw big parties vs cold and don't serve enough food. Again, stereotypes... but they are pretty much diametrically opposed.

I grew up in New England among both communities and the WASP culture was a strong presence in my high school and even college, but much more so among friends' parents and grandparents. I don't see it as much anymore. For one thing prep schools and Ivies are no longer WASP bastions so pretty much everything is different. Are there still pockets of exclusivity and is there still a certain style? Yes, but it is disappearing. In my opinion this is mostly a good thing, but also too bad in certain ways.

Gee, this doesn't sound biased at all 🤔 I guess I could fire back some fairly rude assessments of Jews and start praising WASPs but I have a feeling that wouldn't be allowed. Although I agree with you the groups are NOT similar in the slightest.

Go for it! I think those stereotypes are right on, especially about the food. Go to a wealthy WASPy wedding and a wealthy Jewish one. Compare the food and get back to me. Yes, the WASPy wedding will be beautiful and have amazing flowers and decor, but for some reason, they are going to scrimp on the food. The Jews will leave the flowers out, if need be, but not the food.

Also, the big elephant in the room difference was left out: Jews are far less likely than WASPs to have an alcohol problem.

Your turn…

Alrighty... since you've asked me to... grasping strivers, loud, new money, ostentatious, pushy/mannerless, cliquey/not welcoming to outsiders, horrible food (gefilte fish?! WTF), trashy, etc.

I will say that as much as you say people dont like WASP weddings, many people pay big bucks to get married in "WASPy" locations with a "WASP" style (which is kind of derived from English style). Not many people getting married in chuppahs despite being Filipino, IJS.

Anyway... each group can have their own judgements of their others.

The initial comment that you took offense to called Jews “frank,” “direct” and “loud.” Those were polite euphemisms. But I suppose that it makes you feel classier to spell it out “grasping strivers” and “trashy?”

I said point blank that WASPy weddings are aesthetically beautiful. It’s just that I make a point of eating before I go to one. With a Jewish wedding, I get a workout in first. Don’t even get me started on the lavishness that is an Indian wedding…but I digress. Also, practically every wedding I’ve gone to in the last decade has the bride being given away by both of her parents per Jewish tradition.

I’m not sure why you’re so offended by the descriptions of WASPs. I don’t see them to be very mean at all.

Yes, they called Jews "frank, direct, and loud vs reserved, inhibited, discreet, quiet. Warm with family and throw big parties vs cold and don't serve enough food." Clearly biased, as my previous comment said and whoever replied (you?) said you'd like to hear my honest assessment and that WASPs also have alcohol problems. So a second ago you wanted people to "go for it" and be honest but now that someone was you're offended?

[Anonymous]

Don't forget that within Jewish culture there is a distinct difference between German Jews and Polish/Eastern European Jews, and then the Sephardics of the Mediterranean and North Africa worlds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally disagree that *the stereotypes* of wealthy wealthy Jews and WASPS are similar. Note: I am not talking individuals, just the types.

Yes education is important to both but the personality types couldn't be more diametrically opposed: frank, candid, direct, loud vs reserved, inhibited, discreet, quiet. Warm with family and throw big parties vs cold and don't serve enough food. Again, stereotypes... but they are pretty much diametrically opposed.

I grew up in New England among both communities and the WASP culture was a strong presence in my high school and even college, but much more so among friends' parents and grandparents. I don't see it as much anymore. For one thing prep schools and Ivies are no longer WASP bastions so pretty much everything is different. Are there still pockets of exclusivity and is there still a certain style? Yes, but it is disappearing. In my opinion this is mostly a good thing, but also too bad in certain ways.

Gee, this doesn't sound biased at all 🤔 I guess I could fire back some fairly rude assessments of Jews and start praising WASPs but I have a feeling that wouldn't be allowed. Although I agree with you the groups are NOT similar in the slightest.

Go for it! I think those stereotypes are right on, especially about the food. Go to a wealthy WASPy wedding and a wealthy Jewish one. Compare the food and get back to me. Yes, the WASPy wedding will be beautiful and have amazing flowers and decor, but for some reason, they are going to scrimp on the food. The Jews will leave the flowers out, if need be, but not the food.

Also, the big elephant in the room difference was left out: Jews are far less likely than WASPs to have an alcohol problem.

Your turn…

Alrighty... since you've asked me to... grasping strivers, loud, new money, ostentatious, pushy/mannerless, cliquey/not welcoming to outsiders, horrible food (gefilte fish?! WTF), trashy, etc.

I will say that as much as you say people dont like WASP weddings, many people pay big bucks to get married in "WASPy" locations with a "WASP" style (which is kind of derived from English style). Not many people getting married in chuppahs despite being Filipino, IJS.

Anyway... each group can have their own judgements of their others.

The initial comment that you took offense to called Jews “frank,” “direct” and “loud.” Those were polite euphemisms. But I suppose that it makes you feel classier to spell it out “grasping strivers” and “trashy?”

I said point blank that WASPy weddings are aesthetically beautiful. It’s just that I make a point of eating before I go to one. With a Jewish wedding, I get a workout in first. Don’t even get me started on the lavishness that is an Indian wedding…but I digress. Also, practically every wedding I’ve gone to in the last decade has the bride being given away by both of her parents per Jewish tradition.

I’m not sure why you’re so offended by the descriptions of WASPs. I don’t see them to be very mean at all.

Yes, they called Jews "frank, direct, and loud vs reserved, inhibited, discreet, quiet. Warm with family and throw big parties vs cold and don't serve enough food." Clearly biased, as my previous comment said and whoever replied (you?) said you'd like to hear my honest assessment and that WASPs also have alcohol problems. So a second ago you wanted people to "go for it" and be honest but now that someone was you're offended?

I don’t think the initial comment by a different poster is biased at all. I think it’s very accurate on all counts. I’m also not remotely offended by your comment.

I think you’re quite funny. Why? Because while championing their cause, you don’t come across as politely WASPy in the least, nor do you have the coolheaded WASPy demeanor, the kind that built this country. Nope, instead you are seem to be deeply offended by WASPs being called “discreet” and “reserved,” which is not only not inoffensive but, also very true. Keep it coming! And please don’t tell me you’re a bot, I’ll be disappointed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally disagree that *the stereotypes* of wealthy wealthy Jews and WASPS are similar. Note: I am not talking individuals, just the types.

Yes education is important to both but the personality types couldn't be more diametrically opposed: frank, candid, direct, loud vs reserved, inhibited, discreet, quiet. Warm with family and throw big parties vs cold and don't serve enough food. Again, stereotypes... but they are pretty much diametrically opposed.

I grew up in New England among both communities and the WASP culture was a strong presence in my high school and even college, but much more so among friends' parents and grandparents. I don't see it as much anymore. For one thing prep schools and Ivies are no longer WASP bastions so pretty much everaything is different. Are there still pockets of exclusivity and is there still a certain style? Yes, but it is disappearing. In my opinion this is mostly a good thing, but also too bad in certain ways.

Gee, this doesn't sound biased at all 🤔 I guess I could fire back some fairly rude assessments of Jews and start praising WASPs but I have a feeling that wouldn't be allowed. Although I agree with you the groups are NOT similar in the slightest.

Go for it! I think those stereotypes are right on, especially about the food. Go to a wealthy WASPy wedding and a wealthy Jewish one. Compare the food and get back to me. Yes, the WASPy wedding will be beautiful and have amazing flowers and decor, but for some reason, they are going to scrimp on the food. The Jews will leave the flowers out, if need be, but not the food.

Also, the big elephant in the room difference was left out: Jews are far less likely than WASPs to have an alcohol problem.

Your turn…

Alrighty... since you've asked me to... grasping strivers, loud, new money, ostentatious, pushy/mannerless, cliquey/not welcoming to outsiders, horrible food (gefilte fish?! WTF), trashy, etc.

I will say that as much as you say people dont like WASP weddings, many people pay big bucks to get married in "WASPy" locations with a "WASP" style (which is kind of derived from English style). Not many people getting married in chuppahs despite being Filipino, IJS.

Anyway... each group can have their own judgements of their others.

The initial comment that you took offense to called Jews “frank,” “direct” and “loud.” Those were polite euphemisms. But I suppose that it makes you feel classier to spell it out “grasping strivers” and “trashy?”

I said point blank that WASPy weddings are aesthetically beautiful. It’s just that I make a point of eating before I go to one. With a Jewish wedding, I get a workout in first. Don’t even get me started on the lavishness that is an Indian wedding…but I digress. Also, practically every wedding I’ve gone to in the last decade has the bride being given away by both of her parents per Jewish tradition.

I’m not sure why you’re so offended by the descriptions of WASPs. I don’t see them to be very mean at all.

Yes, they called Jews "frank, direct, and loud vs reserved, inhibited, discreet, quiet. Warm with family and throw big parties vs cold and don't serve enough food." Clearly biased, as my previous comment said and whoever replied (you?) said you'd like to hear my honest assessment and that WASPs also have alcohol problems. So a second ago you wanted people to "go for it" and be honest but now that someone was you're offended?

I don’t think the initial comment by a different poster is biased at all. I think it’s very accurate on all counts. I’m also not remotely offended by your comment.

I think you’re quite funny. Why? Because while championing their cause, you don’t come across as politely WASPy in the least, nor do you have the coolheaded WASPy demeanor, the kind that built this country. Nope, instead you are seem to be deeply offended by WASPs being called “discreet” and “reserved,” which is not only not inoffensive but, also very true. Keep it coming! And please don’t tell me you’re a bot, I’ll be disappointed.

I'm glad you're not offended. And thanks for proving my point that your stereotypes about WASPs, the WASPs you THINK you know and are so pleased to have figured out, are completely wrong. Maybe they are "cold" and "reserved" with YOU and that's for a reason. I guarantee the conversations are different in private, when youre not around. That's the politest way I can say it. Have a good one.