Suit by Covington Catholic student against Washington Post dismissed

[Anonymous]

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This whole event was deliberate on his part.

He made them make a racist gesture? Do you think he has secret mind powers? He walked up to them, was, I guess mildly provocative, and they responded by mocking him and his culture. You know what what kind of person responds to a slight provocation with racism? A racist.

Why would he walk up to them? He was looking for trouble. His fault.

Okay.

And WaPo should not have reported what he did?

They should have verified what was alleged to have happened, before they reported it.

Please. Many of us have watched several of the videos of this incident and we're arguing about it. WaPo's reporting was fine. They also ran opinion articles about it. This kid can't seem to tell them apart. Can't even seem to tell the various news agencies apart.

If their reporting was fine, why did they publish a retraction?

[Anonymous]

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It is not racist. So, the entire Atlanta Braves home crowd is racist? The entire Florida State home crowd? Kansas City Chiefs home crowd?

They're making racist gestures, absolutely. I have no idea if they are racist personally, but they're doing a racist thing. This isn't new. Native people have been pointing out that the chop is racist pretty much as soon as it spread to the Braves.

In this context, which isn't even a sporting event with a history of doing the chop, it's even more obvious. Why do you see a Native man and decide to do the Tomahawk Chop at him? To mock him and his culture, there's no other conceivable explanation.

Yes, can't believe PP is trying to argue that it's NOT racist. Ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This whole event was deliberate on his part.

He made them make a racist gesture? Do you think he has secret mind powers? He walked up to them, was, I guess mildly provocative, and they responded by mocking him and his culture. You know what what kind of person responds to a slight provocation with racism? A racist.

Why would he walk up to them? He was looking for trouble. His fault.

Okay.

And WaPo should not have reported what he did?

They should have verified what was alleged to have happened, before they reported it.

Please. Many of us have watched several of the videos of this incident and we're arguing about it. WaPo's reporting was fine. They also ran opinion articles about it. This kid can't seem to tell them apart. Can't even seem to tell the various news agencies apart.

If their reporting was fine, why did they publish a retraction?

The retraction said their reporting was fine. Remember?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/01/editors-note-related-lincoln-memorial-incident/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This whole event was deliberate on his part.

He made them make a racist gesture? Do you think he has secret mind powers? He walked up to them, was, I guess mildly provocative, and they responded by mocking him and his culture. You know what what kind of person responds to a slight provocation with racism? A racist.

Why would he walk up to them? He was looking for trouble. His fault.

Okay.

And WaPo should not have reported what he did?

They should have verified what was alleged to have happened, before they reported it.

Please. Many of us have watched several of the videos of this incident and we're arguing about it. WaPo's reporting was fine. They also ran opinion articles about it. This kid can't seem to tell them apart. Can't even seem to tell the various news agencies apart.

If their reporting was fine, why did they publish a retraction?

The retraction said their reporting was fine. Remember?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/01/editors-note-related-lincoln-memorial-incident/

From the "retraction": "...contradicting or failing to confirm accounts provided in that story — including that Native American activist Nathan Phillips was prevented by one student from moving on, that his group had been taunted by the students in the lead-up to the encounter, and that the students were trying to instigate a conflict."

Doesn't sound fine to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This whole event was deliberate on his part.

He made them make a racist gesture? Do you think he has secret mind powers? He walked up to them, was, I guess mildly provocative, and they responded by mocking him and his culture. You know what what kind of person responds to a slight provocation with racism? A racist.

Why would he walk up to them? He was looking for trouble. His fault.

Okay.

And WaPo should not have reported what he did?

They should have verified what was alleged to have happened, before they reported it.

Please. Many of us have watched several of the videos of this incident and we're arguing about it. WaPo's reporting was fine. They also ran opinion articles about it. This kid can't seem to tell them apart. Can't even seem to tell the various news agencies apart.

If their reporting was fine, why did they publish a retraction?

The retraction said their reporting was fine. Remember?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/01/editors-note-related-lincoln-memorial-incident/

From the "retraction": "...contradicting or failing to confirm accounts provided in that story — including that Native American activist Nathan Phillips was prevented by one student from moving on, that his group had been taunted by the students in the lead-up to the encounter, and that the students were trying to instigate a conflict."

Doesn't sound fine to me.

Nice ellipsis. It's working very hard for you.

"Subsequent reporting" is the part that you left out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This whole event was deliberate on his part.

He made them make a racist gesture? Do you think he has secret mind powers? He walked up to them, was, I guess mildly provocative, and they responded by mocking him and his culture. You know what what kind of person responds to a slight provocation with racism? A racist.

Why would he walk up to them? He was looking for trouble. His fault.

Okay.

And WaPo should not have reported what he did?

They should have verified what was alleged to have happened, before they reported it.

Please. Many of us have watched several of the videos of this incident and we're arguing about it. WaPo's reporting was fine. They also ran opinion articles about it. This kid can't seem to tell them apart. Can't even seem to tell the various news agencies apart.

If their reporting was fine, why did they publish a retraction?

The retraction said their reporting was fine. Remember?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/01/editors-note-related-lincoln-memorial-incident/

From the "retraction": "...contradicting or failing to confirm accounts provided in that story — including that Native American activist Nathan Phillips was prevented by one student from moving on, that his group had been taunted by the students in the lead-up to the encounter, and that the students were trying to instigate a conflict."

Doesn't sound fine to me.

Nice ellipsis. It's working very hard for you.

"Subsequent reporting" is the part that you left out.

Thank you.

In case you missed it, this is about the initial reporting...you know, the reporting that the plaintiffs have an issue with?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This whole event was deliberate on his part.

He made them make a racist gesture? Do you think he has secret mind powers? He walked up to them, was, I guess mildly provocative, and they responded by mocking him and his culture. You know what what kind of person responds to a slight provocation with racism? A racist.

Why would he walk up to them? He was looking for trouble. His fault.

Okay.

And WaPo should not have reported what he did?

They should have verified what was alleged to have happened, before they reported it.

Please. Many of us have watched several of the videos of this incident and we're arguing about it. WaPo's reporting was fine. They also ran opinion articles about it. This kid can't seem to tell them apart. Can't even seem to tell the various news agencies apart.

If their reporting was fine, why did they publish a retraction?

The retraction said their reporting was fine. Remember?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/01/editors-note-related-lincoln-memorial-incident/

From the "retraction": "...contradicting or failing to confirm accounts provided in that story — including that Native American activist Nathan Phillips was prevented by one student from moving on, that his group had been taunted by the students in the lead-up to the encounter, and that the students were trying to instigate a conflict."

Doesn't sound fine to me.

Nice ellipsis. It's working very hard for you.

"Subsequent reporting" is the part that you left out.

Thank you.

In case you missed it, this is about the initial reporting...you know, the reporting that the plaintiffs have an issue with?

The first complaint didn't cute specific articles or specific language. Does the second complaint? What exactly do the plaintiffs have an issue with?

[Anonymous]

I think the reporting was accurate. When I watched the video I saw a rude, threatening white teenage boy trying to intimidate a man of color, a Native Indian, who was merely doing his thing. The teenage boy looked like a typical entitled high school jerk whose parents didnt raise him properly. He clearly thinks his "sh!t don't stink." He is a type that most of us know well as every high school has some verison of this jerk.

That he was wearing a MAGA hat was merely an extra detail that added to his threatening demeanor because of its racsists, bullying connotations generally. But the red hat didn't, in and of itself, make him seem threatening. The boy's own behavior was what was threatenting and scary.

I've seen lots of foks in those red hats and, unless they are at a Trump rally screaming at the press and the so-called-elites, they dont come across as threatening or scary.

If my white, privleged teenage son acted like that boy did, he would be in a sh!t load of trouble at home, at church and at school. It would be a big big deal. If that boy had decent parents, moral teachers, godly priests and good friends, he wouldnt never have acted that way. This boy is the epitome of why Americans on the coasts think folks who live in places like Kentucky are uneducated, racists boors. As a southerner myself, with many midwestern relatives, I know thats just not true but many folks dont. Were I from Kentucky I'd have a boat load to say to this boy's community. They are as much to blame as he is.

The WaPo got it right. This kid is the worst of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the reporting was accurate. When I watched the video I saw a rude, threatening white teenage boy trying to intimidate a man of color, a Native Indian, who was merely doing his thing. The teenage boy looked like a typical entitled high school jerk whose parents didnt raise him properly. He clearly thinks his "sh!t don't stink." He is a type that most of us know well as every high school has some verison of this jerk.

That he was wearing a MAGA hat was merely an extra detail that added to his threatening demeanor because of its racsists, bullying connotations generally. But the red hat didn't, in and of itself, make him seem threatening. The boy's own behavior was what was threatenting and scary.

I've seen lots of foks in those red hats and, unless they are at a Trump rally screaming at the press and the so-called-elites, they dont come across as threatening or scary.

If my white, privleged teenage son acted like that boy did, he would be in a sh!t load of trouble at home, at church and at school. It would be a big big deal. If that boy had decent parents, moral teachers, godly priests and good friends, he wouldnt never have acted that way. This boy is the epitome of why Americans on the coasts think folks who live in places like Kentucky are uneducated, racists boors. As a southerner myself, with many midwestern relatives, I know thats just not true but many folks dont. Were I from Kentucky I'd have a boat load to say to this boy's community. They are as much to blame as he is.

The WaPo got it right. This kid is the worst of us.

Which is it? What about his behavior was threatening and scary? You said that unless they are at a Trump rally screaming at the press and the so-called-elites, they don't come across as threatening or scary. He was not at a Trump rally, and was not screaming.

He did absolutely nothing wrong. HE was insulted by the Black Israelites. HE was approached by Phillips. HE said NOTHING to Phillips.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the reporting was accurate. When I watched the video I saw a rude, threatening white teenage boy trying to intimidate a man of color, a Native Indian, who was merely doing his thing. The teenage boy looked like a typical entitled high school jerk whose parents didnt raise him properly. He clearly thinks his "sh!t don't stink." He is a type that most of us know well as every high school has some verison of this jerk.

That he was wearing a MAGA hat was merely an extra detail that added to his threatening demeanor because of its racsists, bullying connotations generally. But the red hat didn't, in and of itself, make him seem threatening. The boy's own behavior was what was threatenting and scary.

I've seen lots of foks in those red hats and, unless they are at a Trump rally screaming at the press and the so-called-elites, they dont come across as threatening or scary.

If my white, privleged teenage son acted like that boy did, he would be in a sh!t load of trouble at home, at church and at school. It would be a big big deal. If that boy had decent parents, moral teachers, godly priests and good friends, he wouldnt never have acted that way. This boy is the epitome of why Americans on the coasts think folks who live in places like Kentucky are uneducated, racists boors. As a southerner myself, with many midwestern relatives, I know thats just not true but many folks dont. Were I from Kentucky I'd have a boat load to say to this boy's community. They are as much to blame as he is.

The WaPo got it right. This kid is the worst of us.

Which is it? What about his behavior was threatening and scary? You said that unless they are at a Trump rally screaming at the press and the so-called-elites, they don't come across as threatening or scary. He was not at a Trump rally, and was not screaming.

He did absolutely nothing wrong. HE was insulted by the Black Israelites. HE was approached by Phillips. HE said NOTHING to Phillips.

Of course an amoral MAGA scum would think this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the reporting was accurate. When I watched the video I saw a rude, threatening white teenage boy trying to intimidate a man of color, a Native Indian, who was merely doing his thing. The teenage boy looked like a typical entitled high school jerk whose parents didnt raise him properly. He clearly thinks his "sh!t don't stink." He is a type that most of us know well as every high school has some verison of this jerk.

That he was wearing a MAGA hat was merely an extra detail that added to his threatening demeanor because of its racsists, bullying connotations generally. But the red hat didn't, in and of itself, make him seem threatening. The boy's own behavior was what was threatenting and scary.

I've seen lots of foks in those red hats and, unless they are at a Trump rally screaming at the press and the so-called-elites, they dont come across as threatening or scary.

If my white, privleged teenage son acted like that boy did, he would be in a sh!t load of trouble at home, at church and at school. It would be a big big deal. If that boy had decent parents, moral teachers, godly priests and good friends, he wouldnt never have acted that way. This boy is the epitome of why Americans on the coasts think folks who live in places like Kentucky are uneducated, racists boors. As a southerner myself, with many midwestern relatives, I know thats just not true but many folks dont. Were I from Kentucky I'd have a boat load to say to this boy's community. They are as much to blame as he is.

The WaPo got it right. This kid is the worst of us.

Which is it? What about his behavior was threatening and scary? You said that unless they are at a Trump rally screaming at the press and the so-called-elites, they don't come across as threatening or scary. He was not at a Trump rally, and was not screaming.

He did absolutely nothing wrong. HE was insulted by the Black Israelites. HE was approached by Phillips. HE said NOTHING to Phillips.

Of course an amoral MAGA scum would think this.

What did he do wrong? Be specific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the reporting was accurate. When I watched the video I saw a rude, threatening white teenage boy trying to intimidate a man of color, a Native Indian, who was merely doing his thing. The teenage boy looked like a typical entitled high school jerk whose parents didnt raise him properly. He clearly thinks his "sh!t don't stink." He is a type that most of us know well as every high school has some verison of this jerk.

That he was wearing a MAGA hat was merely an extra detail that added to his threatening demeanor because of its racsists, bullying connotations generally. But the red hat didn't, in and of itself, make him seem threatening. The boy's own behavior was what was threatenting and scary.

I've seen lots of foks in those red hats and, unless they are at a Trump rally screaming at the press and the so-called-elites, they dont come across as threatening or scary.

If my white, privleged teenage son acted like that boy did, he would be in a sh!t load of trouble at home, at church and at school. It would be a big big deal. If that boy had decent parents, moral teachers, godly priests and good friends, he wouldnt never have acted that way. This boy is the epitome of why Americans on the coasts think folks who live in places like Kentucky are uneducated, racists boors. As a southerner myself, with many midwestern relatives, I know thats just not true but many folks dont. Were I from Kentucky I'd have a boat load to say to this boy's community. They are as much to blame as he is.

The WaPo got it right. This kid is the worst of us.

Which is it? What about his behavior was threatening and scary? You said that unless they are at a Trump rally screaming at the press and the so-called-elites, they don't come across as threatening or scary. He was not at a Trump rally, and was not screaming.

He did absolutely nothing wrong. HE was insulted by the Black Israelites. HE was approached by Phillips. HE said NOTHING to Phillips.

Of course an amoral MAGA scum would think this.

What did he do wrong? Be specific.

If you dont see a problem with his demeanor, attitude and stance, the wrongness of his behavior, then you are part of the problem. He is radiating disrespect and challenge - noone stands like that, rigid and unsmiling directly where another perosn is clearly trying to go, purposefully in someone's way, unless you intend to send a message. His demeanor is clearly transmitting his ill-regard and disrespect for the other man. Normal behavior, when one means no ill-intent, would be to move to the side, without hesitation. A person who was not trying to get into a fight or argument in this instance would obviously have moved away. There was no reason, other than to intimidate, for him to stand like that in the other man's way. Its not normal behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the reporting was accurate. When I watched the video I saw a rude, threatening white teenage boy trying to intimidate a man of color, a Native Indian, who was merely doing his thing. The teenage boy looked like a typical entitled high school jerk whose parents didnt raise him properly. He clearly thinks his "sh!t don't stink." He is a type that most of us know well as every high school has some verison of this jerk.

That he was wearing a MAGA hat was merely an extra detail that added to his threatening demeanor because of its racsists, bullying connotations generally. But the red hat didn't, in and of itself, make him seem threatening. The boy's own behavior was what was threatenting and scary.

I've seen lots of foks in those red hats and, unless they are at a Trump rally screaming at the press and the so-called-elites, they dont come across as threatening or scary.

If my white, privleged teenage son acted like that boy did, he would be in a sh!t load of trouble at home, at church and at school. It would be a big big deal. If that boy had decent parents, moral teachers, godly priests and good friends, he wouldnt never have acted that way. This boy is the epitome of why Americans on the coasts think folks who live in places like Kentucky are uneducated, racists boors. As a southerner myself, with many midwestern relatives, I know thats just not true but many folks dont. Were I from Kentucky I'd have a boat load to say to this boy's community. They are as much to blame as he is.

The WaPo got it right. This kid is the worst of us.

Which is it? What about his behavior was threatening and scary? You said that unless they are at a Trump rally screaming at the press and the so-called-elites, they don't come across as threatening or scary. He was not at a Trump rally, and was not screaming.

He did absolutely nothing wrong. HE was insulted by the Black Israelites. HE was approached by Phillips. HE said NOTHING to Phillips.

Of course an amoral MAGA scum would think this.

What did he do wrong? Be specific.

If you dont see a problem with his demeanor, attitude and stance, the wrongness of his behavior, then you are part of the problem. He is radiating disrespect and challenge - noone stands like that, rigid and unsmiling directly where another perosn is clearly trying to go, purposefully in someone's way, unless you intend to send a message. His demeanor is clearly transmitting his ill-regard and disrespect for the other man. Normal behavior, when one means no ill-intent, would be to move to the side, without hesitation. A person who was not trying to get into a fight or argument in this instance would obviously have moved away. There was no reason, other than to intimidate, for him to stand like that in the other man's way. Its not normal behavior.

Should have said "rigid and smiling" - the smile increases the menace as its not a real smile. He isnt happy, he isnt engaged in some joyful pursuit. That "smile" also sends a message, and not a nice one. Srriously, anyone who understands normal social clues can understand the teenager's message.

[Anonymous]

Be generous, PP. Maybe the kid has B!itchy Smiling Face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the reporting was accurate. When I watched the video I saw a rude, threatening white teenage boy trying to intimidate a man of color, a Native Indian, who was merely doing his thing. The teenage boy looked like a typical entitled high school jerk whose parents didnt raise him properly. He clearly thinks his "sh!t don't stink." He is a type that most of us know well as every high school has some verison of this jerk.

That he was wearing a MAGA hat was merely an extra detail that added to his threatening demeanor because of its racsists, bullying connotations generally. But the red hat didn't, in and of itself, make him seem threatening. The boy's own behavior was what was threatenting and scary.

I've seen lots of foks in those red hats and, unless they are at a Trump rally screaming at the press and the so-called-elites, they dont come across as threatening or scary.

If my white, privleged teenage son acted like that boy did, he would be in a sh!t load of trouble at home, at church and at school. It would be a big big deal. If that boy had decent parents, moral teachers, godly priests and good friends, he wouldnt never have acted that way. This boy is the epitome of why Americans on the coasts think folks who live in places like Kentucky are uneducated, racists boors. As a southerner myself, with many midwestern relatives, I know thats just not true but many folks dont. Were I from Kentucky I'd have a boat load to say to this boy's community. They are as much to blame as he is.

The WaPo got it right. This kid is the worst of us.

Which is it? What about his behavior was threatening and scary? You said that unless they are at a Trump rally screaming at the press and the so-called-elites, they don't come across as threatening or scary. He was not at a Trump rally, and was not screaming.

He did absolutely nothing wrong. HE was insulted by the Black Israelites. HE was approached by Phillips. HE said NOTHING to Phillips.

Of course an amoral MAGA scum would think this.

What did he do wrong? Be specific.

If you dont see a problem with his demeanor, attitude and stance, the wrongness of his behavior, then you are part of the problem. He is radiating disrespect and challenge - noone stands like that, rigid and unsmiling directly where another perosn is clearly trying to go, purposefully in someone's way, unless you intend to send a message. His demeanor is clearly transmitting his ill-regard and disrespect for the other man. Normal behavior, when one means no ill-intent, would be to move to the side, without hesitation. A person who was not trying to get into a fight or argument in this instance would obviously have moved away. There was no reason, other than to intimidate, for him to stand like that in the other man's way. Its not normal behavior.

Sorry. He was NOT standing "where another perosn (sic) is clearly trying to go, purposefully in someone's way". Watch the video. the entire video. The group of students was standing off to the left side of the front of the Memorial steps, NOT directly in front of it. Phillips said he was trying to get to the Memorial. He could have walked DIRECTLY up the steps, unimpeded, to the Memorial. There was PLENTY of unimpeded clear space for him to proceed directly up the steps to visit Abe. . He chose to veer to the left and approach the group of students. There is NO WAY that Sandmann was blocking his attempt to get to the Memorial, as he claimed. You can spin it all you want, because you don't like Sandmann and the group of students, but your version is simply not the truth.