DH doesn’t think this is a bad idea

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Dead Horse Still Dead.

[Anonymous]

Agree with splitting the days

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I’m a pp from the first page.

How is this 12 pages?!

Because this is DCUM and nobody misses a chance to pile on an OP. It's very sad to those of us who open a thread prepared to try and give actual, helpful advice in a nice manner. Those posts can be found if you look carefully, but you have to weed through posts from parents trying to make themselves feel superior by beating on someone else first.

The reason it is long is YOU. 90% of pps agree that this is not hard and that her DH is right. But, you are persisting in trying to prove the majority evil and wrong. Dcum loves to pilesure, be you are dcum, and piling on all the people who think it is a pretty good idea and that all her excuses are lame. Once you stop posting, the thread will disappear.

How do YOU decide it’s 90%? So ridiculous. I pointed out earlier there are threads ALL THE TIME about traveling with kids being difficult. Did you see the post a couple years ago Trip vs Vacation that resonated with so many parents?
Like most things in life, it’s personal. Go if you want to and don’t if you don’t.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d also go. But then we were/are the type of family that never really slowed down for the baby. I would hate for my older kid to miss out on fun times.

This. I can't imagine completely missing out on life for years because of naps.

I've known people like you. You have an easy kid who will nap anywhere and look askance at others who don't drag their kids all over kingdom come because they have kids who don't nap just anywhere and need their sleep.

I don't begrudge you you're fun, but stop with the judgment and keep your yap shut.

DP. People that go out have all kind of babies, some a screamers, some are quiet. Isn't it funny how nobody understands your martyrdom of a fussy baby?! Methinks your baby is just a baby and it is YOU who trained your baby to only sleep in the crib, just like non martyr mom that takes her baby everywhere trained her baby to sleep in a stroller. You are just incompetent and probably a first time mom. It is not the kids are are inflexible it is the parents. Bit of a narcissistic mommy complex, I would guess on your part. How else can you be a martyr if your baby was super easy??

I don't have a difficult baby and I'm not a martyr. My kids are in ES and were easy.

I just know the types like you... basically judgy jerks. You just proved it with your nasty post.

I kind of agree with this. People put so much pressure on new moms. Just stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I’m a pp from the first page.

How is this 12 pages?!

Because this is DCUM and nobody misses a chance to pile on an OP. It's very sad to those of us who open a thread prepared to try and give actual, helpful advice in a nice manner. Those posts can be found if you look carefully, but you have to weed through posts from parents trying to make themselves feel superior by beating on someone else first.

The reason it is long is YOU. 90% of pps agree that this is not hard and that her DH is right. But, you are persisting in trying to prove the majority evil and wrong. Dcum loves to pilesure, be you are dcum, and piling on all the people who think it is a pretty good idea and that all her excuses are lame. Once you stop posting, the thread will disappear.

How do YOU decide it’s 90%? So ridiculous. I pointed out earlier there are threads ALL THE TIME about traveling with kids being difficult. Did you see the post a couple years ago Trip vs Vacation that resonated with so many parents?
Like most things in life, it’s personal. Go if you want to and don’t if you don’t.

Guys, stop.

[Anonymous]

I didn't read everything, but my $0.02:

OP says: "my fear is that I will end up there myself half the time with the baby." Maybe. Maybe you and DH could split that time, so it's only 1/4 of the time and each of you has fun with the older kid 3/4 of the time? That sounds awesome to me!

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Anonymous wrote:I’d also go. But then we were/are the type of family that never really slowed down for the baby. I would hate for my older kid to miss out on fun times.

This. I can't imagine completely missing out on life for years because of naps.

I've known people like you. You have an easy kid who will nap anywhere and look askance at others who don't drag their kids all over kingdom come because they have kids who don't nap just anywhere and need their sleep.

I don't begrudge you you're fun, but stop with the judgment and keep your yap shut.

My kids didn't nap everywhere but we still took them on vacation. Yes, we didn't sleep as well but we still had fun. It wasn't worth stopping everything for years. So you keep your yap shut.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d also go. But then we were/are the type of family that never really slowed down for the baby. I would hate for my older kid to miss out on fun times.

This. I can't imagine completely missing out on life for years because of naps.

I've known people like you. You have an easy kid who will nap anywhere and look askance at others who don't drag their kids all over kingdom come because they have kids who don't nap just anywhere and need their sleep.

I don't begrudge you you're fun, but stop with the judgment and keep your yap shut.

My kids didn't nap everywhere but we still took them on vacation. Yes, we didn't sleep as well but we still had fun. It wasn't worth stopping everything for years. So you keep your yap shut.

So you're kind of giving a mixed message here. Everyone is saying - go, it's so easy, people are being ridiculous to stop traveling for a couple of years. I think here you acknowledge it IS somewhat difficult.
Your tolerance for what is "worth it" certainly could be different from another family based on father's involvement, overall stress, personality of a baby and a million other things...

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Anonymous wrote:I’d also go. But then we were/are the type of family that never really slowed down for the baby. I would hate for my older kid to miss out on fun times.

This. I can't imagine completely missing out on life for years because of naps.

I've known people like you. You have an easy kid who will nap anywhere and look askance at others who don't drag their kids all over kingdom come because they have kids who don't nap just anywhere and need their sleep.

I don't begrudge you you're fun, but stop with the judgment and keep your yap shut.

My kids didn't nap everywhere but we still took them on vacation. Yes, we didn't sleep as well but we still had fun. It wasn't worth stopping everything for years. So you keep your yap shut.

So you're kind of giving a mixed message here. Everyone is saying - go, it's so easy, people are being ridiculous to stop traveling for a couple of years. I think here you acknowledge it IS somewhat difficult.
Your tolerance for what is "worth it" certainly could be different from another family based on father's involvement, overall stress, personality of a baby and a million other things...

Not PP, but just because a trip can have difficulties doesn't mean you shouldn't go. Of course there are elements of traveling with young kids that are hard. But there are also wonderful perks. A trip doesn't have to be easy to be worth going.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d also go. But then we were/are the type of family that never really slowed down for the baby. I would hate for my older kid to miss out on fun times.

This. I can't imagine completely missing out on life for years because of naps.

I've known people like you. You have an easy kid who will nap anywhere and look askance at others who don't drag their kids all over kingdom come because they have kids who don't nap just anywhere and need their sleep.

I don't begrudge you you're fun, but stop with the judgment and keep your yap shut.

My kids didn't nap everywhere but we still took them on vacation. Yes, we didn't sleep as well but we still had fun. It wasn't worth stopping everything for years. So you keep your yap shut.

So you're kind of giving a mixed message here. Everyone is saying - go, it's so easy, people are being ridiculous to stop traveling for a couple of years. I think here you acknowledge it IS somewhat difficult.
Your tolerance for what is "worth it" certainly could be different from another family based on father's involvement, overall stress, personality of a baby and a million other things...

Not PP, but just because a trip can have difficulties doesn't mean you shouldn't go. Of course there are elements of traveling with young kids that are hard. But there are also wonderful perks. A trip doesn't have to be easy to be worth going.

Of course not, but people are giving OP so much grief she’s a whiner and they can’t understand why she wouldn’t go. Is it that hard to see the perks don’t outweigh the difficulties for OP?

[Anonymous]

Would love to actually hear back from the OP. She seems to have disappeared.

[Anonymous]

I didn't read all 13 pages of this but I understand the gist. What really makes me LOL at these sorts of fights on here is that if you were to take a look at some sleep training threads this place LOVES Weissbluth. And Weissbluth LOVES crib naps. He is very clear that sleep in motion is not quality sleep. It's okay if it happens occasionally, but it should not be a regular thing. He even points out that us adults do not get quality sleep in motion (car, plane, etc.), even if we do, in fact, fall asleep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't read all 13 pages of this but I understand the gist. What really makes me LOL at these sorts of fights on here is that if you were to take a look at some sleep training threads this place LOVES Weissbluth. And Weissbluth LOVES crib naps. He is very clear that sleep in motion is not quality sleep. It's okay if it happens occasionally, but it should not be a regular thing. He even points out that us adults do not get quality sleep in motion (car, plane, etc.), even if we do, in fact, fall asleep.

OP’s baby can get crib naps on this vacation, by either herself or DH staying behind while the baby naps (most likely in a pack n play.) Or are you too stupid to understand that?

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read all 13 pages of this but I understand the gist. What really makes me LOL at these sorts of fights on here is that if you were to take a look at some sleep training threads this place LOVES Weissbluth. And Weissbluth LOVES crib naps. He is very clear that sleep in motion is not quality sleep. It's okay if it happens occasionally, but it should not be a regular thing. He even points out that us adults do not get quality sleep in motion (car, plane, etc.), even if we do, in fact, fall asleep.

OP’s baby can get crib naps on this vacation, by either herself or DH staying behind while the baby naps (most likely in a pack n play.) Or are you too stupid to understand that?

Why are you so invested in OP going on this vacation? Ask yourself that.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read all 13 pages of this but I understand the gist. What really makes me LOL at these sorts of fights on here is that if you were to take a look at some sleep training threads this place LOVES Weissbluth. And Weissbluth LOVES crib naps. He is very clear that sleep in motion is not quality sleep. It's okay if it happens occasionally, but it should not be a regular thing. He even points out that us adults do not get quality sleep in motion (car, plane, etc.), even if we do, in fact, fall asleep.

OP’s baby can get crib naps on this vacation, by either herself or DH staying behind while the baby naps (most likely in a pack n play.) Or are you too stupid to understand that?

Wow, I was just commenting on the bits I read where people were tearing OP to shreds because they all "trained" their babies to sleep on the go and thus were superior mothers. I'm pretty sure nowhere in my post did I suggest where I stood on the trip in general. But since you inquired so nicely: I have a 1.5 year old who only sleeps in a crib. I, coincidentally, recently went to Maine with my extended family for the 4th, and every day between 1 and 4 (DS's nap time) at least 1 of us sat on the couch and decompressed. It was lovely.

So to answer your question directly--no, I'm not too stupid to understand that.