Hardy MS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're fine sending your kids to Eaton or Stoddert - including having a % of OOB students and some diversity, you'll be ok sending your kids to Hardy. If you want a "public school that's just like a private" as people often say about Mann or Key and then go to private - than you are likely never going to be ok with sending your kid to Hardy (or Deal ... or Wilson). That's fine, but there's no need to also then 'trash' on Hardy. It's at the point of hitting all standards for a high performing public school. Just be a private school family & be fine with that...

-- a public school grad with two Ivy league degrees & HHI & fine sending my kids to public school too

I think this reflects many of the parents of new IB Hardy students (mostly Eaton/Stoddert). Lots of incomes 200-400k, multiple Ivy degrees, don't really see the need to have a nanny ferry the kids to an "elite" private, and in general chose to live in DC instead of Virginia or Maryland. Who do you think are buying those 1M+ Glover Park townhomes? Its not like they couldn't have bought a place in the 'burbs. A bit of diversity never hurt anyone, but nobody wants their kid to be too 'different'. Hardy seems to be winning over these folks. While they can spring 40K for tuition or move to Bethesda, why?

But some of the families that send kids to Key or Mann? Yeah, most Stoddert families would prefer they keep their kids out of Hardy - not because the kids are problematic, but that their parents are (see the racist incident at Key).

I love the “hey there are some educated white people here”. They use it to try attract more because deep down they know that there is a lot of other types there and they wish it was more like them.

I am not sure how woke one is when they bask in how urban there life is when they spend every breath trying to make it more homogeneous like the mcleans and Bethesdas of the world. What exactly are you trying to flip at hardy? Hypocrites

Wow. I’m the PP and Latina. Thanks for proving the point, some families will never be ok sending their kid to school with mine. And in a few years you’ll be crying over the URM and legacy kids “taking” the positions at your target colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're fine sending your kids to Eaton or Stoddert - including having a % of OOB students and some diversity, you'll be ok sending your kids to Hardy. If you want a "public school that's just like a private" as people often say about Mann or Key and then go to private - than you are likely never going to be ok with sending your kid to Hardy (or Deal ... or Wilson). That's fine, but there's no need to also then 'trash' on Hardy. It's at the point of hitting all standards for a high performing public school. Just be a private school family & be fine with that...

-- a public school grad with two Ivy league degrees & HHI & fine sending my kids to public school too

I think this reflects many of the parents of new IB Hardy students (mostly Eaton/Stoddert). Lots of incomes 200-400k, multiple Ivy degrees, don't really see the need to have a nanny ferry the kids to an "elite" private, and in general chose to live in DC instead of Virginia or Maryland. Who do you think are buying those 1M+ Glover Park townhomes? Its not like they couldn't have bought a place in the 'burbs. A bit of diversity never hurt anyone, but nobody wants their kid to be too 'different'. Hardy seems to be winning over these folks. While they can spring 40K for tuition or move to Bethesda, why?

But some of the families that send kids to Key or Mann? Yeah, most Stoddert families would prefer they keep their kids out of Hardy - not because the kids are problematic, but that their parents are (see the racist incident at Key).

I love the “hey there are some educated white people here”. They use it to try attract more because deep down they know that there is a lot of other types there and they wish it was more like them.

I am not sure how woke one is when they bask in how urban there life is when they spend every breath trying to make it more homogeneous like the mcleans and Bethesdas of the world. What exactly are you trying to flip at hardy? Hypocrites

We'd love to see academic quality and achievement on the level of McLean and Bethesda schools. Virginia and Bethesda are not homogeneous but I know that East Asian and South Asian diversity is not considered "diversity" in DC (which still seems to apply a narrow definition of diversity from the Barry era of the 70s).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like lots of the Hardy perceptions are out of date here. Most of the 6th and 7th are feeders, with lots of IB students. Not sure why people think that Hardy hasn’t flipped. Maybe since it takes 3 years for the statistics to propagate through?

Or maybe the people differ on what they consider flipped. It certainly doesn’t look like a school on the edge of Georgetown. I think people are trying to will people’s perceptions of DC schools because they spent so much to move where they did private isn’t really an option. For those of us that aren’t house poor, our judgement is less clouded and it isn’t really a viable option.

Hardy will basically flip when all of its feeders have flipped.

[Anonymous]

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It is one person. One tedious person who will, hopefully - for their own sake - be able to move on one day.

Lol - they'll never drop it. Bit like those Obama birthers, flat earthers, or moon landing fakers!

Of course, the Obama kids passed on Hardy also.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hardy does not need a critical mass from Key or Mann to have flipped. They have Stoddert as their base followed by Eaton. The grades feeding from Eaton are a make up of IB and B students. The OOB families who have gotten their kids to Eaton for years did it with the end goal of a path to Wilson. They are going to continue getting their children to Hardy.

All you need is a handful of students from Hyde, Mann and Key and you have filled up the school with feeder students.

Not likely. OOB will probably be less than 10% of Eaton, and declining, within five years. IB enrollment is way up and is projected to continue to climb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy does not need a critical mass from Key or Mann to have flipped. They have Stoddert as their base followed by Eaton. The grades feeding from Eaton are a make up of IB and B students. The OOB families who have gotten their kids to Eaton for years did it with the end goal of a path to Wilson. They are going to continue getting their children to Hardy.

All you need is a handful of students from Hyde, Mann and Key and you have filled up the school with feeder students.

Not likely. OOB will probably be less than 10% of Eaton, and declining, within five years. IB enrollment is way up and is projected to continue to climb.

Yeah, this echos that Hardy will mostly be a Stoddert/Eaton extension. I think many IB people will be happy with that outcome

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardy does not need a critical mass from Key or Mann to have flipped. They have Stoddert as their base followed by Eaton. The grades feeding from Eaton are a make up of IB and B students. The OOB families who have gotten their kids to Eaton for years did it with the end goal of a path to Wilson. They are going to continue getting their children to Hardy.

All you need is a handful of students from Hyde, Mann and Key and you have filled up the school with feeder students.

Not likely. OOB will probably be less than 10% of Eaton, and declining, within five years. IB enrollment is way up and is projected to continue to climb.

OK with us. DC has created a system of neighborhood based schools and why shouldn’t Eaton, like other Ward 3 schools, be firmly anchored as a neighborhood school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardy does not need a critical mass from Key or Mann to have flipped. They have Stoddert as their base followed by Eaton. The grades feeding from Eaton are a make up of IB and B students. The OOB families who have gotten their kids to Eaton for years did it with the end goal of a path to Wilson. They are going to continue getting their children to Hardy.

All you need is a handful of students from Hyde, Mann and Key and you have filled up the school with feeder students.

Not likely. OOB will probably be less than 10% of Eaton, and declining, within five years. IB enrollment is way up and is projected to continue to climb.

OK with us. DC has created a system of neighborhood based schools and why shouldn’t Eaton, like other Ward 3 schools, be firmly anchored as a neighborhood school?

Eaton doesn't seem to be taking any OOB students in the lottery this year.

[Anonymous]

Speaking up to be counted here, since the conversation seems to be that nobody would choose Hardy over Deal if they had the option. Well, I am an EOTP parent of mid/upper elementary kids who had great lottery results. We got into a Deal feeder and accepted. Then got called off the waitlist for a Hardy Feeder. I chose the Hardy feeder deliberately because i prefer it to Deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you're fine sending your kids to Eaton or Stoddert - including having a % of OOB students and some diversity, you'll be ok sending your kids to Hardy. If you want a "public school that's just like a private" as people often say about Mann or Key and then go to private - than you are likely never going to be ok with sending your kid to Hardy (or Deal ... or Wilson). That's fine, but there's no need to also then 'trash' on Hardy. It's at the point of hitting all standards for a high performing public school. Just be a private school family & be fine with that...

-- a public school grad with two Ivy league degrees & HHI & fine sending my kids to public school too

I’m a Mann parent with a (now graduated) 5th grader and I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised at the number of Mann kids at Hardy next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're fine sending your kids to Eaton or Stoddert - including having a % of OOB students and some diversity, you'll be ok sending your kids to Hardy. If you want a "public school that's just like a private" as people often say about Mann or Key and then go to private - than you are likely never going to be ok with sending your kid to Hardy (or Deal ... or Wilson). That's fine, but there's no need to also then 'trash' on Hardy. It's at the point of hitting all standards for a high performing public school. Just be a private school family & be fine with that...

-- a public school grad with two Ivy league degrees & HHI & fine sending my kids to public school too

I’m a Mann parent with a (now graduated) 5th grader and I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised at the number of Mann kids at Hardy next year.

Was it by choice - or a really competitive year for getting into privates and Hardy was the safety? [I know kids going to Deal who it was not the 1st choice for the family - but wound up being the only choice]

[Anonymous]

Hardy has a chance as people are buying in parts of the city thought unimaginable not to long ago. Those parents are desperate to go to Wilson, not because it is that good but because the other options are really bad. Hardy will get richer and whiter because DC is getting richer and whiter and it’s scores and prestige will reflect that.

It will always be 2nd place to Deal because Deal simply has a huge head start

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy has a chance as people are buying in parts of the city thought unimaginable not to long ago. Those parents are desperate to go to Wilson, not because it is that good but because the other options are really bad. Hardy will get richer and whiter because DC is getting richer and whiter and it’s scores and prestige will reflect that.

It will always be 2nd place to Deal because Deal simply has a huge head start

That is like saying, "I went to Columbia since I didn't get into Harvard." Hardy is going to be just fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy has a chance as people are buying in parts of the city thought unimaginable not to long ago. Those parents are desperate to go to Wilson, not because it is that good but because the other options are really bad. Hardy will get richer and whiter because DC is getting richer and whiter and it’s scores and prestige will reflect that.

It will always be 2nd place to Deal because Deal simply has a huge head start

That is like saying, "I went to Columbia since I didn't get into Harvard." Hardy is going to be just fine.

More like university of Phoenix when UDC wouldn't take them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're fine sending your kids to Eaton or Stoddert - including having a % of OOB students and some diversity, you'll be ok sending your kids to Hardy. If you want a "public school that's just like a private" as people often say about Mann or Key and then go to private - than you are likely never going to be ok with sending your kid to Hardy (or Deal ... or Wilson). That's fine, but there's no need to also then 'trash' on Hardy. It's at the point of hitting all standards for a high performing public school. Just be a private school family & be fine with that...

-- a public school grad with two Ivy league degrees & HHI & fine sending my kids to public school too

I’m a Mann parent with a (now graduated) 5th grader and I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised at the number of Mann kids at Hardy next year.

Awesome, the entire DCPS gets stronger as more people buy into it. What convinced you (and other Mann -> Hardy) families?