Serena is a bully and a crybaby

[Anonymous]

Conners
McEnroe
Agassi

all did far worse. This was racism and sexism, more the former but exacerbated by the latter. I’m glad Serena called him out.

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Anonymous wrote:Evert said she’d never seen anything like it in her career and the chair ump was “out of line”. Andy Roddick said it was the worst referring he had ever seen .... ever. Neither mentioned sex or race.

I didn't see this but I instantly wondered....

Is there any chance that the chair ump was paying her back and making things difficult for her because of that body suit bruhaha?

"You make things tough for us, we'll make things tough on you."

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Anonymous wrote:Ramos enforced the rules. It’s not his job to compare himself or his actions to other umpires who handle rules differently. It’s his job to enforce the rules. Not doing so is like the excuse “everyone else does it, so I should, too”.

He enforces the rules in a discriminatory manner. He doesn’t enforce those same rules against the men.

What possible evidence do you have of this? By all accounts he's well respected and has worked a number of major finales. Ratchet down your inane hysteria.

You are wrong. He has had several run ins with other players. Both Rafa and Djokovic have complained about him recently. You are doing the expected mansplaing. You are assuming the pp is female and because she has a strong opinion she is hysterical. Take you sexism and shove it.

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Anonymous wrote:The world owes you an apology
Not just the umpire
Not just the French Open
Not just racists who ask if you feel intimidated by Sharapova’s basic looks
Or being drug tested more than
The basic looking actual drug user
The nurses and doctors who ignored
Your knowledge
Of your own body
Almost causing your death
Every time they questioned your
Femininity
Ability
Strength
Integrity
Victory
They did so because of your skin
Asian parents who mold their children are
Tiger mothers
White parents who risk everything
Turn sex tapes into millions
Are momagers
But your father who made legends out of
Compton Concrete
Shaping you and your sister
Like Michelangelo chiseled David
He is loud
Obnoxious
Insane
The world owes you an apology
But we know it will never come
Because first they would have to acknowledge
The hatred
The racism
It isn’t your black panther suit
Your beauty
Your millions
You venting to a umpire
A broken racket
Or a demand of proper medical care
It’s your blackness that offends
Your power when you should be powerless
Your confidence
When you should always grovel
Always remind yourself
That you should thank them
for allowing you
To be on the courts at all
As if a Queen tells the jester
thank you for her
Throne
You are the living breathing embodiment of
#blackgirlmagic
The dream of our ancestors
The power of our foremothers
The strength that the
Middle passage
Slavery
Jim Crow
and America
Could not break
Your are more than the
GOAT
You are goddess
Fearless
More than tennis
You are a living black legend
And they hate you for it
#Serena #GOAT #USOpenTennis #JustDoIt
#FistAndFire #Buymybookifyouwanna

-Lesle Honore

Excellence.

But, they not gone like you. You know that, right?

Yep.

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Anonymous wrote:You know, sometimes an issue isn’t men vs. women or black vs. white. It’s about a person’s behavior during a tough moment. That’s what this is about. Serena’s behavior during a tough situation. She didn’t handle it well. And, she doesn’t get a pass because she’s a mom, or a black woman or a super athlete.

She didn't "handle it well" because she was being treated unfairly. How would any of us react in the same situation, playing a championship game and having, first, one point, and then, an entire game handed to our opponent? If there is any point in life where a person needs to stand up for herself, this is it. If we don't stand up for ourselves during a tough moment, when will we?

Stop trying to make sense to these posters. You know most of them would never stand up for themselves. That’s why women are always the perpetual losers. They rarely fight back. They need a me too moment and require someone else to step forward first.

Women are still punished for speaking up like adults. If we do we are overly emotional. Serena was trying to be reasonable but knew what the guy did was never done. He did it to her during a final of a major and she was in shock. It just doesn't happen. Women are punished for speaking up where it is accepted from men.

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Anonymous wrote:Evert said she’d never seen anything like it in her career and the chair ump was “out of line”. Andy Roddick said it was the worst referring he had ever seen .... ever. Neither mentioned sex or race.

I didn't see this but I instantly wondered....

Is there any chance that the chair ump was paying her back and making things difficult for her because of that body suit bruhaha?

"You make things tough for us, we'll make things tough on you."

No. Just no. That was the French tennis association and how does her wearing a body suit make things tough for them? This has to be the most insane comment on this thread. And btw, there was no bruhaha. Serena accepted their judgement and made it clear she was ok with the decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Evert said she’d never seen anything like it in her career and the chair ump was “out of line”. Andy Roddick said it was the worst referring he had ever seen .... ever. Neither mentioned sex or race.

I didn't see this but I instantly wondered....

Is there any chance that the chair ump was paying her back and making things difficult for her because of that body suit bruhaha?

"You make things tough for us, we'll make things tough on you."

Chair umpire has absolutely nothing to do with dress rules for an event. Nothing at all. What a stupid statement.

[Anonymous]

Horrible sportsmanship from Serena. What a nasty example for young athletes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Evert said she’d never seen anything like it in her career and the chair ump was “out of line”. Andy Roddick said it was the worst referring he had ever seen .... ever. Neither mentioned sex or race.

I didn't see this but I instantly wondered....

Is there any chance that the chair ump was paying her back and making things difficult for her because of that body suit bruhaha?

"You make things tough for us, we'll make things tough on you."

Chair umpire has absolutely nothing to do with dress rules for an event. Nothing at all. What a stupid statement.

Well excuse me! I was not aware that the chair ump lived in such a tight bubble that they would never form a personal opinion about something like that body suit incident. I'll bet those chair umps never, ever talk to any other authorities in the sport.....never mind!

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Anonymous wrote:Bully? I disagree. Emotional? Yes. Happens to the best of us.

She threatened the referee with never being allowed to officiate one of her tournaments, not to mention insulting him (during her childish tantrum).

Yes - this was bullying on national display.

NO it was not. I have followed tennis for over 40 years. I never miss a major and watch almost all tournaments. YOU DO NOT KNOW PROFESSIONAL TENNIS.

What we saw today was absolute sexist bullshit.

Coaching happens all the time and no one gets called for it. On the men's side, the coaches are practically on the court with a notebook.

What Serena's coach did was so minimal and meaningless it was ridiculous for her to be called for it.

The chair umpire inserted himself into the match like an egotist. There are so many players who go off on line judges and chair umps and usually, at most, they get a warning. What Serena did was so ridiculously mild. Singles tennis is an intense mental game and screwing with a player like Carlos did is horrible. It just doesn't happen.

Rafa threatened the ump with never officiating again that and got nothing but a warning. Rafa got into it with Carlos Bernardes and threatened his job. All of tennis supported Rafa. David Ferrer, who was loved by all, went off on a female chair ump when she warned him for cursing and he had a nice little tantrum screaming at her that "You are a woman, women can't do anything" and on. I don't think he was even fined. At another tournament Ferrer hit a ball with his racquet in anger and hit a linesman. The umpire did nothing. Leyton Hewitt got pissed when he got called for foot faults when playing against James Blake and accused the chair ump of who was black of calling in favor of Blake who was also black. No fine. No penalty no nothing. I can go on for days about things Hewitt. He called a line judge and idiot and the chair ump a moron and everyone put up with it. Andy Roddick, omg, what he got away with. He loved to tell chair umps in lovely terms that they were intellectually deficient. John Isner also goes nuts pretty often. So many of the players have their moments. I could go on for days about the fits tennis players have thrown and directed at umps and lines people. Agassi was another great one. He screamed at a chair ump to get his fat ass out of the chair and check a mark on the court. No fine. He spit on a chair umpire who let it go until after he saw the tv footage. I was surprised they actually punished Fabio Fognini for calling the female chair ump a whore and a pig. These are just some of the instances I remember. I could google every top 20 player and find matches where they went off and got a warning at most.

What is a basic truth about tennis is that the top male players rarely get called out for their behavior. Only Nick Kyrios gets any punishment and he's a complete ass. Everyone bends over backwards to pat him on the back when he acts decent for 5 minutes. One of the best chair umps of all time, Mohamed Lahyani, got bad press because during one of Kyrios' matches last week he came down from his chair to ENCOURAGE this asshat when he started acting like an asshat.

I've read tennis forums for as long as they have existed on the internet and, across the board until the last 5 years, the comments about Serena have been vile, disgusting, and racist. Anytime any one mentioned a match the comments about her looking like and ape, or a pig, or being fat piled on. Guys I knew who could discuss tennis rationally became cretins when it came to Serena. She isn't a svelte traditionally cute little something who minces her words and she has paid for this. That is sexist. I dont know what changed so that people recognized her greatness, but now I see more people defending her.

I'm not even going to try to explain to you people who know nothing about tennis about the unfair and racist crap she has had to put up with.

I agree with much of what you said, however why are you comparing Serena to men? She doesn't play again them and whatever is tolerated from them does not put her at a disadvantage. The truth is that she often behaves like a diva. And other women don't. I do think that umpire screwed this ip royally but most other women tennis players would react differently.

Other women do blow up as well. One player recently attacked the chair umps chair. I'm pointing out the double standard in the way men and women are treated. The double standard is sexist. Lots of other female players act like divas as well. Serena gets noticed because she destroys other players. Until recently no one could challenge her. There is so much resentment because of this. You clearly don't watch much tennis.

i have been following tennis for 30 years so please stop lecturing me.

the coaching rule has been enforced inconsistently among women and men. the same offense made by the same coach/player team will be penalized by the same umpire in one match and no in the other. in fact, it wont be even penalized consistently during the same match. this has nothing to do with discriminating anyone, it's just that coaching is a part of a match and can't be eradicated. sort of like jaywalking... people do it all the time and then someone occasionally gets punished.

now, umpire should not have penalized serena for it yesterday. the context matters and it was timing was unwise. at the same time, this is not the first this happened to her or other players. wrong calls are made all the time, and the players, ideally get over it.

i am not saying that other players don't blow up. men do it much more often than women, and yes, serena does it more often than most of other women. those are facts for us who follow it.

finally, again, comparing serena to men and calling it 'double standard' makes no sense because they don't play the same sport. men need to win 3 sets at grand slams - that's a double standard as well. men must play federer and nadal vs osaka and kerber and that is a double standard as well. the fact of the matter is that women's tennis is nowhere as great a sport as men's tennis is and serena at her best wouldn't be able to get a set from any top 100 player.

You were making sense until that last idiotic paragraph. The rules are the same in mens and womens tennis but enforced differently. That's why it's a double standard. It has nothing to do with how many sets they play and who they compete against.

And that double standard is sexist and intolerable.

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Anonymous wrote:Ramos is a thief and worse. I hope his career is done.

Ditto.

+1

X 100.

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Anonymous wrote:Ramos is a thief and worse. I hope his career is done.

Ditto.

+1

X 100.

US Open is the US tournament. If they thought Ramos was a bad ref they wouldn’t have allowed him to ref the final.

Ain’t nobody who won’t get blamed if Serena loses because she’s never to blame.

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Anonymous wrote:Evert said she’d never seen anything like it in her career and the chair ump was “out of line”. Andy Roddick said it was the worst referring he had ever seen .... ever. Neither mentioned sex or race.

I didn't see this but I instantly wondered....

Is there any chance that the chair ump was paying her back and making things difficult for her because of that body suit bruhaha?

"You make things tough for us, we'll make things tough on you."

Chair umpire has absolutely nothing to do with dress rules for an event. Nothing at all. What a stupid statement.

So much stupidity on this thread and so many idiotic comments from people that didn't watch the match and know nothing about tennis. Bottom line, Osaka was the better player last night and deserved the win. What she didn't deserve was the juvenile tantrum from her opponent spoiling her moment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Horrible sportsmanship from Serena. What a nasty example for young athletes.

Wow. I thought Twitter was your single mode of communication.

How's Melanie?

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Anonymous wrote:Evert said she’d never seen anything like it in her career and the chair ump was “out of line”. Andy Roddick said it was the worst referring he had ever seen .... ever. Neither mentioned sex or race.

I didn't see this but I instantly wondered....

Is there any chance that the chair ump was paying her back and making things difficult for her because of that body suit bruhaha?

"You make things tough for us, we'll make things tough on you."

Chair umpire has absolutely nothing to do with dress rules for an event. Nothing at all. What a stupid statement.

So much stupidity on this thread and so many idiotic comments from people that didn't watch the match and know nothing about tennis. Bottom line, Osaka was the better player last night and deserved the win. What she didn't deserve was the juvenile tantrum from her opponent spoiling her moment.

Maybe the umps are not inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt anymore.