Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
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Anonymous
So... all those teams play in HoCo, so what does it matter if they're not geographically "DMV" teams? |
Anonymous
What are we even getting at here? If no DMV teams other than VLC played at Big 4, so what? If Baltimore clubs are not in the DMV, so what? |
Anonymous
The rec comment was aimed at how poorly a heralded club team like VLC played. DCE was at that location. I like the vibe at VLC but DCE is siphoning off talent. |
Anonymous
You do realize VLC plays with holdbacks as well, right? Lots of kids get held back for lots of different reasons, should they not play club sports? |
Anonymous
A former post stated that a dad of another DC area club was there. The only DC club was DCE '21 so it may have been an invented post. I still agree that DMV is NOT Baltimore. |
Anonymous
DCE was NOT at Desales! NO DC area clubs were there. Some good PA, NJ, NE, and Baltimore clubs no DC clubs at the DeSales location. You post as if Tourney Machine does not exist. |
Anonymous
(shrug) Not on any of the three VLC teams I'm familiar with, including the one my son is on. |
Anonymous
| If DCE was at the Hill School instead of De Sales, what the heck difference does that make? |
Anonymous
The only reason people don’t consider Baltimore or even teams like the Hawks DMV is because it would take away their bragging rights. |
Anonymous
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DCE is not siphoning talent away from VLC. Montgomery County families aren't going to travel to VLC practices and very few VA families would go to downtown Bethesda for practice.
DCE fights NL for talent. VLC and Madlax fight each other for talent. |
Anonymous
| When my son played, VLC had kids from schools in DC and MD. My understanding is that has changed quickly and dramatically. |
Anonymous
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I'll put my on caveat: I am a VLC parent
I looked at Tourney Machine from the Big 4 tournament this past weekend and it looks like some of the VLC teams absolutely struggled. It also looks like the teams they struggled against all placed very high at the tournament (I didn't check every single bracket but enough to conclude). Here is what I know about VLC. First, it wasn't built with winning tournaments as the driver. It was built to teach young men the game of lacrosse and IF they had the desire to play at the next level (DI, DII or DIII) they would have the ability to do so and a program and coaching staff with the reputation to get them connected. The commitments page says it all https://crabslax.com/AlumniVLC.aspx If getting into college to play lacrosse is the most important thing there is nothing about the VLC program that won't help you get there, no matter what happens in tournament play. College coaches don't evaluate scores, they evaluate players. VLC consistently puts out quality players. VLC has only recently started to cultivate a youth program, it previously was primarily a collection of high school aged teams (or 8th grade starting) and it was there to hone the skills of players and help them understand not only what they were learning on their high school teams but what the expectations are of college programs. The younger teams are absolutely a concentration of former rec kids, with a wide range of lacrosse IQ, but with time and work they will improve. You will see that as the teams get older, the performance gets better. Kids come to VLC with a variety of skills, habits and commitment to improvement. Many kids show potential early and don't put in the time, but those that do absolutely benefit. No pressure, no cliques, no parents who all think their kid is the next Paul Rabil and is going to get a full ride to Hopkins (or whatever school floats your boat). VLC teaches quality lacrosse and consistently plays against the best competition it can find. Some days that competition is just too good and it can be disheartening for parents and kids alike but we all learn far more from failure than we ever do from success. At the end of the day, as a parent, I want my son to put the sport in its proper perspective. Lacrosse is not life. I want my son to push himself as hard as he can for as long as he cares about what he is doing. If lacrosse is just another thing he does to make him attractive to the admissions board of a college he really wants to get into, then fantastic. VLC more than prepares young men for the demands of the college game. Countless players are playing (or have played) on D1 national championship teams and other highly skilled teams. VLC players are making it to the MLL and now the PLL. It's a great club, they all have their faults. If you are looking for a place where your son will learn and play, VLC is a great place. The coaches are approachable and run great practices. If you are at a tournament and the parents of your sons current team aren't very social, stop by ANY VLC tent and introduce yourself, I have no doubt that you'll be greeted warmly and any one of them can answer questions you may have. This is my experience and for reference my son did play for other teams and was a starter on all of them but the atmosphere wasn't conducive to who I wanted him to be and more importantly who he wanted to be. Just my two cents, hope this helps anyone who genuinely wants to know rather than someone who is clearly a keyboard tough guy belittling kids and their play. Nothing is gained from putting down others. Even when there are teams and parents that in my opinion have it all wrong, I still wouldn't put them down. When you stoop to evaluating a child and speaking about them in a way that you would never want someone speaking about your own child perhaps you need to step away from the keyboard and have a glass of the merlot and relax. |
Anonymous
| New poster. I watched VLC play last weekend. They have some real talent. Especially in the cage. The LSMs were excellent. There were a few mids who were very physical. But the attack had no vision, and most did not seem to grasp the concept of off-ball movement. I don’t believe they won a single face-off during the game I watched, and I know for sure the opponents face-off guy was not a FOGO, just a strong mid who was a wrestler and mad-dog rabid. I’m also a fan of VLC, mainly because they represent a big FU to Madlax. But if this is the best they can come up with these days, a glorified Cavaliers, then woe is them. |
Anonymous
| 23:10, putting aside that you are obviously a professional master of PR, I agree with what you are saying. Scores don’t matter for college coaches. |
Anonymous
| When a youth team goes to an out of state tournament and can’t win a game and gets blown out game after game, their club hasn’t done a good job for the kids or parents. Not criticizing the kids at all, it’s the program that needs to evaluate itself. |