Is U Chicago worth cost over in-state UVA?
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Anonymous
| Going back to the original question, "worth it" is in the eye of the beholder. for whatever reasons important to them It's likely "worth it" if one has no question about it. If you don't know, you won't miss it. If you know and you can't afford it, well that's an answer too. |
Anonymous
If you're worried about rape at UVA, they you shouldn't send your daughter to any college at all. Rape is at every college campus. |
Anonymous
Another moron who hates the school and has no real advice to offer except the very tagline developed decades ago by UChicago students themselves to wryly describe themselves and their school humorously. Chicago is a totally different School now, but this idiot would not know that I guess this moron will also believe taglines such as "UChicago, because I was waitlisted at Hogwarts" or UChicago: Where the only thing that goes down on you if your GPA Ignore this intellectual midget |
Anonymous
God you are dense. You can't compare these schools because their rates of student loan participation was very different ( for example HYPS data is skewed higher because they have need blind longer than Chicago, and support their kids with their own funds, so those poor kids don't show up in these surveys) and availability of engineering majors at these schools skews the data. It will also depend Where the graduates live. Also, alums who are 34 a free years ago graduated a long time ago when Chicago had a very different School profile and demographics. The careers and demographics of the current student body looks nothing like it was at that time If you are looking at a number like this and infering that one school is better than the other, you are an idiot |
Anonymous
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https://www.quora.com/How-did-University-of-Chicago-rise-from-15-to-4-in-university-rankings-so-quickly
Interesting thread Crazy that it rose so much in the rankings |
Anonymous
I knew the previous dean of admissions personally. He was adamantly against these changes—one of which was beginning to accept the common app—and said it would destroy the soul of the school. As someone who went there for grad school, and the sister of an undergrad alum (I also got in for undergrad, but went elsewhere), I totally agree. It used to be special; now they’re marketing it as just another top school. Really sad. |
Anonymous
Sounds like you are in denial. It comes to this: do I trust this data or do I trust a UChicago alum or parent's self serving speculative analysis? |
Anonymous
Normally, I'd never trust a government data if I can find same info elsewhere. But the question is, trust government data or a Chicago fan's analysis? I'll make an exception and go with the government data. |
Anonymous
It's ignorant to reject out-of-hand reasonable observations that pertain to the analysis of the data set - regardless of the source. A critical analysis and evaluation would incorporate all the information available and come up with a more nuanced, conditional, and accurate understanding. But feel free to insist on the "government data" - lots of fools do. |
Anonymous
As stated, I'd never go to the government for data if the info were available else where. The problem is, we are dealing with the Chicago source. Chicago USNews ranking jumped enormously from 60% admit rate to what it is now in a relatively short time. Claremont McKenna manipulated the data the old fashioned way - by fudging the numbers it submitted to USNews. Not suggesting Chicago fudged the numbers. However, Chicago data is not what it purports to show. I'd be equally skeptical of a Chicago booster's analysis. |
Anonymous
They started taking the common app and marketing much more aggressively. That made their acceptance rate plummet, which led to their ranking going up. It’s not hard. |
Anonymous
"God you are dense." You lost me right there. That's not part of any logically recognized sound analysis. Ton of schools started taking common app. Most schools take common app nowadays or its equivalents. So, you are just begging the question when you bring up common app. Some schools like Claremont McKenna did it the old fashion way, by fudging numbers. Not suggesting Chicago is fudging numbers. But common app is not the answer. |
Anonymous
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So, after 13 pages...
Yes. U of C offers things a state school, even a good one, cannot. So, do you want these things for your kid, Andy can you pay for them without more than minimal borrowing? We can't answer that part. |
Anonymous
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So, after 13 pages...
If I can afford UChicago, I'd choose UChicago. If it requires a huge loan, no school, not even Harvard, is worth it, if that's going to weigh down student's future. That's me based on my financial situation. Only OP can decide what's best for the student and the family. |
Anonymous
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Northeastern in Boston, NYU, and UChicago have gone way up US News list. All three are known to be pretty shameless in their marketing and tactics.
Is UChicago worth 80000$/yr? Hell no. It's a miserable school for PhD gunners. Save the money for their wedding or an apartment after college. |