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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Or we just have fundamentally different values.

Scorecard data, BTW, will not be indicative of salaries generally.  It’s based only on attendees who received federal aid.[/quote]

Wrong. Gov scorecard pulls all students.[/quote]

No you're wrong. The Govt can only track the data of folks they have data on and these are the folks who applied for financial aid through the Govt. It is incomplete data, specially for schools that have a lot of institutional funds and are need blind and also have a lot of full pay kids.

Finally, Chicago has changed a lot in the last year years. All Govt or private pay level data for Chicago based on earlier cohorts is just not representative anymore. They are now attracting richer and more professionally oriented students and these students will have different career trajectories[/quote]

That's even better if the scorecard data controls for extraneous factors. Scorecard also shows the following:

MIT.            $94200
Harvard.      $90900
Yale.            $83200
Princeton.    $80500
Stanford      $85700
Duke.          $77000
UChicago.    $65000[/quote]

God you are dense. You can't compare these schools because their rates of student loan participation was very different ( for example HYPS data is skewed higher because they have need blind longer than Chicago, and support their kids with their own funds, so those poor kids don't show up in these surveys) and availability of engineering majors at these schools skews the data. It will also depend Where the graduates live. Also, alums who are 34 a free years ago graduated a long time ago when Chicago had a very different School profile and demographics. The careers and demographics of the current student body looks nothing like it was at that time

If you are looking at a number like this and infering that one school is better than the other, you are an idiot[/quote]

Sounds like you are in denial. It comes to this: do I trust this data or do I trust a UChicago alum or parent's self serving speculative analysis? [/quote]

Normally, I'd never trust a government data if I can find same info elsewhere.  But the question is, trust government data or a Chicago fan's analysis?  I'll make an exception and go with the government data.
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It's ignorant to reject out-of-hand reasonable observations that pertain to the analysis of the data set - regardless of the source.  A critical analysis and evaluation would incorporate all the information available and come up with a more nuanced, conditional, and accurate understanding.  But feel free to insist on the "government data" - lots of fools do.[/quote]

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