Concerned about buying in WJ cluster because of re-zoning

[Anonymous]

"real estate market in North Bethesda, Garrett Park and Kensington is going to crash"

No one said it will crash, but it may put downward pressure for years to come.

[Anonymous]

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Woodward has room for 2700 seats, but I seriously doubt they'd fill it to capacity on day 1.

I'd imagine WJ will contribute 800-1000 students to Woodward. Around 700 to address it's overcrowding directly and shift a few hundred from Whitman to WJ to address overcrowding there too.

That still leaves 1700-1900 seats to fill at Woodward. The simplest solution is to fill them from the adjacent schools.

Since Einstein is around 700 over capacity it would likely contribute the lions share. I'd wager B-CC ends up giving 400-500 too, but 200 minimum to offset future overcrowding at B-CC.

Now Northwood is right next to Blair and it's expansion creates 1200 additional seats there. Roughly 700 are needed to address Northwood's overcrowding by 2022. That means 400-500 will likely go to address Blair's overcrowding. Now Blair will need around 700 total seats so they'll a couple hundred short. Those seats will likely come from the two schools directly adjacent to its West. Those schools are also adjacent to Woodward so it's easy to make the room. Sure the County could put the burden entirely on Einstein but why wouldn't B-CC get a pass?

It's all total speculation so I wouldn't get worked up over it. Do you remember those puzzle games you played as a kid that you solve by shifting the blocks? If your goal is to optimally fill these schools, make minimal changes to the overall map without busing people across the county that's how it could play out.

Sounds about right.

[Anonymous]

Will Woodward be made part of the DCC or will it be its own cluster?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Woodward has room for 2700 seats, but I seriously doubt they'd fill it to capacity on day 1.

I'd imagine WJ will contribute 800-1000 students to Woodward. Around 700 to address it's overcrowding directly and shift a few hundred from Whitman to WJ to address overcrowding there too.

That still leaves 1700-1900 seats to fill at Woodward. The simplest solution is to fill them from the adjacent schools.

Since Einstein is around 700 over capacity it would likely contribute the lions share. I'd wager B-CC ends up giving 400-500 too, but 200 minimum to offset future overcrowding at B-CC.

Now Northwood is right next to Blair and it's expansion creates 1200 additional seats there. Roughly 700 are needed to address Northwood's overcrowding by 2022. That means 400-500 will likely go to address Blair's overcrowding. Now Blair will need around 700 total seats so they'll a couple hundred short. Those seats will likely come from the two schools directly adjacent to its West. Those schools are also adjacent to Woodward so it's easy to make the room. Sure the County could put the burden entirely on Einstein but why wouldn't B-CC get a pass?

It's all total speculation so I wouldn't get worked up over it. Do you remember those puzzle games you played as a kid that you solve by shifting the blocks? If your goal is to optimally fill these schools, make minimal changes to the overall map without busing people across the county that's how it could play out.

Sounds about right.

Does anyone think that kids in South Kensington and Chevy Chase View, which is currently zoned for BCC, would be rezoned to Woodward? If Woodward was made up of Kensington-Parkwood, North Chevy Chase, Rock View, Garrett Park, and Viers Mill students it would actually be a good mix and I don't think test scores would be that bad either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Question for the hysterics in this thread who think WJ and Woodward are going to somehow both turn into 4/10 schools and the whole real estate market in North Bethesda, Garrett Park and Kensington is going to crash: Can you please explain the logic behind MoCo and the state government purposefully tanking two public high schools in an area that they're priming as the main site in the state for Amazon's HQ2? That makes absolutely no sense at all.

Look at the map. The only elementary schools that make sense from the DCC to go to Woodward are either Rock View ES or Viers Mill ES. Combining kids from these two elementaries with kids from WJ and some kids from BCC is not going to result in test scores plummeting and the high school being a 4/10 and your property values plummeting. Langley Park is zoned for Blair and a lot of kids in Blair are excelling and home prices in Takoma Park are booming. Calm down. You're living in one of the most desirable counties in the entire country, in one of the most desirable public school districts in the area and you're close to a city that is recession proof. Your home values are going to be fine and your kids are going to be alright. Breathe.

Agree with almost all of this, except Langley Park is in PG, so not zoned for Blair.

Much of the worst parts of Langely Park are actually Takoma Park and part of MoCo. One of the reasons eastern sucks and Blair has so many issues

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will Woodward be made part of the DCC or will it be its own cluster?

Who knows, if the board takes the easy way out they could keep rezoning to a minimum and put it in the DCC and let the middle class parents try and opt in and balance the admissions by homeschool need/crowading. If they get heavy handed and move too many currently anchored neighborhoods, they will most likely make it closed access like the W’s.

The board will most likely chose the path of least resistance and do option one which will leave all but WJ and Einstein alone and make it DCC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will Woodward be made part of the DCC or will it be its own cluster?

Who knows, if the board takes the easy way out they could keep rezoning to a minimum and put it in the DCC and let the middle class parents try and opt in and balance the admissions by homeschool need/crowading. If they get heavy handed and move too many currently anchored neighborhoods, they will most likely make it closed access like the W’s.

The board will most likely chose the path of least resistance and do option one which will leave all but WJ and Einstein alone and make it DCC.

I would put good money that 95% + of the people rezoned won’t have an actual Bethesda address. GP, North Bethesda, Kensington and silver spring will be in the deck to be shuffled but it will be the better parts of those areas so the net result should be ok. I think the biggest loser will be the what’s left at Einstein as that school only has a few decent areas feeding into as it is. If the Kensington’s and forest glens leave.... I hope the Woodside residents left some budget for privates.

[Anonymous]

Can the Svengalis of the board give us an idea of what elementary schools will be zoned for Woodward? I hear a lot of vague regions being discussed, but no specific elementary schools being named. From the map, it looks like the closest elementary schools are Luxmanor, Farmland, Garrett Park, Viers Mill and Rock View. Unless I'm missing something that mix does not signal a 6/10 school, when the lowest of the DCC elementary schools is a 5/10 (Rock View).

Also, I don't see anyone even the least bit excited about the prospect of their DD or DS moving into a brand new high school. There's just a bunch of irrational fretting about test scores based on boundary changes that no one even has the slightest clue about.

[Anonymous]

Looks like buyers are really scared of the impending implosion of the Kensington / Garrett Park / North Bethesda real estate market.

Anything decent listed recently in Parkwood under $1M has gone pending in 6 days or less:

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Bethesda/4606-Woodfield-Rd-20814/home/10996866

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Bethesda/4620-Woodfield-Rd-20814/home/10996183

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Bethesda/4604-Woodfield-Rd-20814/home/10996800

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Kensington/4518-Dresden-St-20895/home/10955884

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Kensington/4514-Saul-Rd-20895/home/10995904

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will Woodward be made part of the DCC or will it be its own cluster?

Who knows, if the board takes the easy way out they could keep rezoning to a minimum and put it in the DCC and let the middle class parents try and opt in and balance the admissions by homeschool need/crowading. If they get heavy handed and move too many currently anchored neighborhoods, they will most likely make it closed access like the W’s.

The board will most likely chose the path of least resistance and do option one which will leave all but WJ and Einstein alone and make it DCC.

Sounds about right. Woodward being part of DCC will be the path of least resistance and it can happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can the Svengalis of the board give us an idea of what elementary schools will be zoned for Woodward? I hear a lot of vague regions being discussed, but no specific elementary schools being named. From the map, it looks like the closest elementary schools are Luxmanor, Farmland, Garrett Park, Viers Mill and Rock View. Unless I'm missing something that mix does not signal a 6/10 school, when the lowest of the DCC elementary schools is a 5/10 (Rock View).

Seems logical. Pair kids zoned for Tilden Middle School with two or three elementary schools from Wheaton / Einstein that are close by. Still not a bad mix considering Luxmanor and Farmland are some of the highest rated elementary schools in the WJ pyramid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can the Svengalis of the board give us an idea of what elementary schools will be zoned for Woodward? I hear a lot of vague regions being discussed, but no specific elementary schools being named. From the map, it looks like the closest elementary schools are Luxmanor, Farmland, Garrett Park, Viers Mill and Rock View. Unless I'm missing something that mix does not signal a 6/10 school, when the lowest of the DCC elementary schools is a 5/10 (Rock View).

Also, I don't see anyone even the least bit excited about the prospect of their DD or DS moving into a brand new high school.

You could be right. If two DCC elementary join with 3 WJ elementary tschools then the most likely outcome will be Woodward becoming slightly inferior version of RM. RM is a bit elevated due to IB, but if you take out IB then Woodward and RM will look similar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can the Svengalis of the board give us an idea of what elementary schools will be zoned for Woodward? I hear a lot of vague regions being discussed, but no specific elementary schools being named. From the map, it looks like the closest elementary schools are Luxmanor, Farmland, Garrett Park, Viers Mill and Rock View. Unless I'm missing something that mix does not signal a 6/10 school, when the lowest of the DCC elementary schools is a 5/10 (Rock View).

Seems logical. Pair kids zoned for Tilden Middle School with two or three elementary schools from Wheaton / Einstein that are close by. Still not a bad mix considering Luxmanor and Farmland are some of the highest rated elementary schools in the WJ pyramid.

Three elementary school from Wheaton & Einstein will make Woodward inferior than QO and superior than Wheaton.

[Anonymous]

This thread is largely histrionics without any factual basis, but when I read the hateful ignorance in many of these posts I wish the county would integrate the segregated areas to promote empathy and understanding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can the Svengalis of the board give us an idea of what elementary schools will be zoned for Woodward? I hear a lot of vague regions being discussed, but no specific elementary schools being named. From the map, it looks like the closest elementary schools are Luxmanor, Farmland, Garrett Park, Viers Mill and Rock View. Unless I'm missing something that mix does not signal a 6/10 school, when the lowest of the DCC elementary schools is a 5/10 (Rock View).

Seems logical. Pair kids zoned for Tilden Middle School with two or three elementary schools from Wheaton / Einstein that are close by. Still not a bad mix considering Luxmanor and Farmland are some of the highest rated elementary schools in the WJ pyramid.

Three elementary school from Wheaton & Einstein will make Woodward inferior than QO and superior than Wheaton.

Not when the bulk of the population growth will be made up of people who live in the high-end condos and townhomes that are scheduled to be built along Rockville Pike near Metro. Zoning those elementary schools to a better high school would also dramatically increase prices in those Einstein / Wheaton ES neighborhoods wouldn't it, and lead to gentrification?