UVA out tomorrow

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much UVA hate on this board. Super weird. This was just a thread announcing that UVA results are out tomorrow and it immediately turns into pointless bashing.

UVa has become out of reach for many hard-working instate students and that makes me sad. Instead, they take money from internationals and out-of-staters. They have done little change that. I’m an alum.

UVA is still 2/3s in-state students. That hasn’t changed. And it’s actually still harder for OOS and international students to get in than it is for in-state. It has become harder for in-state students because there are more of them applying every year. The same is true for literally every school across the country.

That is not what we are arguing here. We are pointing out that UVA has not kept up with avid ginia’s population growth. If it wants to claim that it is a public university, then it damn well better start acting like one or go private. Instead, it’s using its status as a top public institution to draw in elite money and elite students. It is also using a publicly on property to do the same.

That's exactly what UVA should be doing. For the instate kids who can't measure up, there are plenty of other public options (JMU, VCU, etc).

Exactly. That's why the Commonwealth provide only 6% of UVA's budget but is pumping in $42 million a year into GMU and the other 40 public universities in VA. If parents could just get beyond the "my kid has to go to UVA or W&M" mode of thinking, they would realize there are an amazing amount of college and university choices in VA with instate rates. I know six families at at Christopher Newport and have been thrilled with the quality of education their children have received. Same with the other colleges and universities

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I have kids and know lots of other families with kids at JMU, Tech, CNU, Mary Washington, GMU, etc. All have found their perfect "fit." VA really does have a school for everyone.

Almost everyone. There are stil a few holes, but it does a much better job than other states.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that the references to 75th percentile last year refer to the likely scores needed to get into UVA for the Class of 2018 versus 2017. The Common Data Set metrics of 75th percentile ACT, SAT & GPA.

Admitted is vastly different from enrolled. Common data set is enrolled.

It was still 27% admitted for 2021, 26% for 2022. and 28.9% for class of 2020, which DC is in, so I don't know what you're talking about. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2016/03/university-releases-admission-decisions-for-class-of-2020

I think they're saying that you can't compare the stats for "admitted" students against "enrolled" students. The stats for admitted students are generally higher than for enrolled as kids at the top of the stats have more options.

Not according to SCHEV For entering class of this past fall, the top 25% had a GPA of 4.47 or better, median 50% at 4.20, and bottom 25% at 4.10. And ACT composite average of 33. Those are very high stats (at least to me!).

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Anonymous wrote:From http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/unofficial-admission-statistics-for.html


Total applications: 37,222 (36,779 last year)
Total number of VA apps: 11,338
Total number of OOS apps: 25,884
We use completed applications in our statistics.


Overall offers: 9,849
Total VA offers: 4,303 (38% offer rate)
Total OOS offers: 5,546 (21.4% offer rate)
Schools admit more students than the enrollment goal with yield in mind. Yield is how many students accept an offer of admission.


Testing/Rank (offers only)
Middle 50% SAT score: 1330-1490 (VA) 1420-1530 (OOS)
Middle 50% ACT composite: 30-34 (VA) 33-35 (OOS)
We use scores from each section in our review, but the reports on averages generate totals.



Overall offer rate for the defer group: 16.6%
Students offered spots on the waiting list: 28.6%

The waiting list forms as students opt into it via SIS and we have seen up to HALF decline putting themselves on the list. The waiting list will have ten different segments (in-state and OOS for each of the five academic areas that take first-year students).

So 38% of in state applicants receive an offer and the middle 50% of successful VA applicants have SAT scores 1330-1490

You have to factor in the 250 TJ students who get in. That skews the results for in-state.

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I foresee my 9th grader needing to take ten to 12 APs now. I only took three and got in everywhere in the late nineties. *sigh*

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Anonymous wrote:From http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/unofficial-admission-statistics-for.html


Total applications: 37,222 (36,779 last year)
Total number of VA apps: 11,338
Total number of OOS apps: 25,884
We use completed applications in our statistics.


Overall offers: 9,849
Total VA offers: 4,303 (38% offer rate)
Total OOS offers: 5,546 (21.4% offer rate)
Schools admit more students than the enrollment goal with yield in mind. Yield is how many students accept an offer of admission.


Testing/Rank (offers only)
Middle 50% SAT score: 1330-1490 (VA) 1420-1530 (OOS)
Middle 50% ACT composite: 30-34 (VA) 33-35 (OOS)
We use scores from each section in our review, but the reports on averages generate totals.



Overall offer rate for the defer group: 16.6%
Students offered spots on the waiting list: 28.6%

The waiting list forms as students opt into it via SIS and we have seen up to HALF decline putting themselves on the list. The waiting list will have ten different segments (in-state and OOS for each of the five academic areas that take first-year students).

So 38% of in state applicants receive an offer and the middle 50% of successful VA applicants have SAT scores 1330-1490

You have to factor in the 250 TJ students who get in. That skews the results for in-state.

Do you know what those numbers are this year? Are the admits by school info out yet?

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Anonymous wrote:I foresee my 9th grader needing to take t[b]en to 12 APs now. I only took three and got in everywhere in the late nineties. *sigh*

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Isn't that amazing? That was my takeaway too from reading the UVA class of 2022 RD! It's so much stress on these kids. Over and over I read 10,11, 12 AP classes both for accepted, waitlisted and denied. Read also the UVA Class of 2022 EA. I'm just glad we're done with college applications. I follow the UVA stats because my youngest is there now but I don't think she would have gotten in this year. It's just too much stress on these kids. They have perfect scores, perfect SAT II subject matter scores, astronomical GPAs, run corporate America, have written three books and they still don't get in.

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Anonymous wrote:From http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/unofficial-admission-statistics-for.html


Total applications: 37,222 (36,779 last year)
Total number of VA apps: 11,338
Total number of OOS apps: 25,884
We use completed applications in our statistics.


Overall offers: 9,849
Total VA offers: 4,303 (38% offer rate)
Total OOS offers: 5,546 (21.4% offer rate)
Schools admit more students than the enrollment goal with yield in mind. Yield is how many students accept an offer of admission.


Testing/Rank (offers only)
Middle 50% SAT score: 1330-1490 (VA) 1420-1530 (OOS)
Middle 50% ACT composite: 30-34 (VA) 33-35 (OOS)
We use scores from each section in our review, but the reports on averages generate totals.



Overall offer rate for the defer group: 16.6%
Students offered spots on the waiting list: 28.6%

The waiting list forms as students opt into it via SIS and we have seen up to HALF decline putting themselves on the list. The waiting list will have ten different segments (in-state and OOS for each of the five academic areas that take first-year students).

So 38% of in state applicants receive an offer and the middle 50% of successful VA applicants have SAT scores 1330-1490

You have to factor in the 250 TJ students who get in. That skews the results for in-state.

Do you know what those numbers are this year? Are the admits by school info out yet?

Not that I am aware of. What is out is the list above, and this article: https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-releases-admissions-decisions-and-uva22-begins-trending-grounds.

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Anonymous wrote:I foresee my 9th grader needing to take ten to 12 APs now. I only took three and got in everywhere in the late nineties. *sigh*

Our small private limits the number of APs for students and for every year our child has attended, about a quarter of the senior class is accepted to UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:From http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/unofficial-admission-statistics-for.html


Total applications: 37,222 (36,779 last year)
Total number of VA apps: 11,338
Total number of OOS apps: 25,884
We use completed applications in our statistics.


Overall offers: 9,849
Total VA offers: 4,303 (38% offer rate)
Total OOS offers: 5,546 (21.4% offer rate)
Schools admit more students than the enrollment goal with yield in mind. Yield is how many students accept an offer of admission.


Testing/Rank (offers only)
Middle 50% SAT score: 1330-1490 (VA) 1420-1530 (OOS)
Middle 50% ACT composite: 30-34 (VA) 33-35 (OOS)
We use scores from each section in our review, but the reports on averages generate totals.



Overall offer rate for the defer group: 16.6%
Students offered spots on the waiting list: 28.6%

The waiting list forms as students opt into it via SIS and we have seen up to HALF decline putting themselves on the list. The waiting list will have ten different segments (in-state and OOS for each of the five academic areas that take first-year students).

So 38% of in state applicants receive an offer and the middle 50% of successful VA applicants have SAT scores 1330-1490

You have to factor in the 250 TJ students who get in. That skews the results for in-state.

Why would that skew the results for in-state? Are they not VA residents, high school kids? What difference does it make where they go to school? Surely they would have been accepted from their base school.

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Anonymous wrote:I foresee my 9th grader needing to take ten to 12 APs now. I only took three and got in everywhere in the late nineties. *sigh*

Our small private limits the number of APs for students and for every year our child has attended, about a quarter of the senior class is accepted to UVA.

I am a parent to two current UVA students, one who took 12+ AP classes in his public HS and the other who’s private HS had more limited AP classes and was able to take “only” 10 APs. I really wish more HSs would limit APs. UVA (and the other very selective colleges) create this insanity by always say they want students who took advantage of the “most rigorous” classes available at their high schools, so that students who, unless they have a hook, really do need to take 10+ AP classes to have a chance of acceptance.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that the references to 75th percentile last year refer to the likely scores needed to get into UVA for the Class of 2018 versus 2017. The Common Data Set metrics of 75th percentile ACT, SAT & GPA.

Admitted is vastly different from enrolled. Common data set is enrolled.

It was still 27% admitted for 2021, 26% for 2022. and 28.9% for class of 2020, which DC is in, so I don't know what you're talking about. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2016/03/university-releases-admission-decisions-for-class-of-2020

I think they're saying that you can't compare the stats for "admitted" students against "enrolled" students. The stats for admitted students are generally higher than for enrolled as kids at the top of the stats have more options.

Not according to SCHEV For entering class of this past fall, the top 25% had a GPA of 4.47 or better, median 50% at 4.20, and bottom 25% at 4.10. And ACT composite average of 33. Those are very high stats (at least to me!).

Those are unbelievably competitive stats. I cannot believe the trajectory of this from the early 1990s until now—especially the popularity of UVA with out of state applicants and the crush of nova applicants (as an aside, it seems like William and Mary is truly fading in terms of popularity). UVA figures to become even more intense with the likely arrival of Amazon.

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Anonymous wrote:I foresee my 9th grader needing to take ten to 12 APs now. I only took three and got in everywhere in the late nineties. *sigh*

Our small private limits the number of APs for students and for every year our child has attended, about a quarter of the senior class is accepted to UVA.

I am a parent to two current UVA students, one who took 12+ AP classes in his public HS and the other who’s private HS had more limited AP classes and was able to take “only” 10 APs. I really wish more HSs would limit APs. UVA (and the other very selective colleges) create this insanity by always say they want students who took advantage of the “most rigorous” classes available at their high schools, so that students who, unless they have a hook, really do need to take 10+ AP classes to have a chance of acceptance.

+1 When the HS imposes a limit on APs, colleges take that into account and it cuts down on the pressure to take high numbers. When there's no limit and lots of APs offered, it's a race to get the most. Unfortunately, too many parents support the race. I asked about our public HS imposing a limit and was told they used to have one but got so many parent complaints that they dropped it. So, I'll be imposing the limit myself and accepting that my kids will not go to UVA. That's fine, there are plenty of other options.

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Basically, if u are a non-protected status middle class public school kid, there’s a better chance of being struck by lightning than being admitted.

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Anonymous wrote:From http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/unofficial-admission-statistics-for.html


Total applications: 37,222 (36,779 last year)
Total number of VA apps: 11,338
Total number of OOS apps: 25,884
We use completed applications in our statistics.


Overall offers: 9,849
Total VA offers: 4,303 (38% offer rate)
Total OOS offers: 5,546 (21.4% offer rate)
Schools admit more students than the enrollment goal with yield in mind. Yield is how many students accept an offer of admission.


Testing/Rank (offers only)
Middle 50% SAT score: 1330-1490 (VA) 1420-1530 (OOS)
Middle 50% ACT composite: 30-34 (VA) 33-35 (OOS)
We use scores from each section in our review, but the reports on averages generate totals.



Overall offer rate for the defer group: 16.6%
Students offered spots on the waiting list: 28.6%

The waiting list forms as students opt into it via SIS and we have seen up to HALF decline putting themselves on the list. The waiting list will have ten different segments (in-state and OOS for each of the five academic areas that take first-year students).

So 38% of in state applicants receive an offer and the middle 50% of successful VA applicants have SAT scores 1330-1490

You have to factor in the 250 TJ students who get in. That skews the results for in-state.

4303 admitted IS. How do you know250 TJ kids got admitted?

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Anonymous wrote:Basically, if u are a non-protected status middle class public school kid, there’s a better chance of being struck by lightning than being admitted.

Yep.