If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to end this, strengthen families. Almost none of these mass murderers comes from intact families.

If you got divorced (or counseled someone else to), or had a child out of wedlock, you are a big part of the problem.

Cruz's parents were not divorced.

He and his brother had the same mother, different fathers.

They were adopted later, but his biological parents were not together

You're blaming the Parkland school shooting on adoption?

For shame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.

If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.

You might want to read the NYTimes study on this subject that was published Friday. It's been studied in depth. The number of killings corresponds almost perfectly to the number of guns in our nation. Mental health problems are similar in other countries that don't have all these guns. They also don't have all the killings or mass shooters at schools.

[Anonymous]

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I prefer to drive congress nuts over this. I actually don't want kids all going outside at the same time. Do you realize how easy it would be for another school shooter to come by and have a mass shooting with everyone in the same place at once?

PP, this happens twice a day, every day, at arrival and dismissal.

It doesn't at our high school school. Kids dribble in over the course of an hour in the a.m., and out over the course of 3 hours in the p.m.. Kids are usually outside and on campus for a minute or two as they walk from their bus, or the metro, or their car to the building.

A significant portion of the student body walking out, and staying out for 17 minutes, would involve more students outside than any one time during our school day, other than a fire drill, and for longer than any other time.

The fact that children are scared enough by this that they're taking it into their own hands, is a sign that the adults are failing them. Those of you who support this, what are you doing to show your kid that the adults can solve this problem.

Our options aren't to let the kids solve it now, or wait 15 years for them to be adults. it's for us to step up and be the adults.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I prefer to drive congress nuts over this. I actually don't want kids all going outside at the same time. Do you realize how easy it would be for another school shooter to come by and have a mass shooting with everyone in the same place at once?

PP, this happens twice a day, every day, at arrival and dismissal.

It doesn't at our high school school. Kids dribble in over the course of an hour in the a.m., and out over the course of 3 hours in the p.m.. Kids are usually outside and on campus for a minute or two as they walk from their bus, or the metro, or their car to the building.

A significant portion of the student body walking out, and staying out for 17 minutes, would involve more students outside than any one time during our school day, other than a fire drill, and for longer than any other time.

The fact that children are scared enough by this that they're taking it into their own hands, is a sign that the adults are failing them. Those of you who support this, what are you doing to show your kid that the adults can solve this problem.

Our options aren't to let the kids solve it now, or wait 15 years for them to be adults. it's for us to step up and be the adults.

Good.

And if people say that students shouldn't do this, because somebody might shoot them -- well, that's exactly why they're planning to be out there. Kids shouldn't have to worry that somebody will shoot them while they're at school. Let's support this action.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to end this, strengthen families. Almost none of these mass murderers comes from intact families.

If you got divorced (or counseled someone else to), or had a child out of wedlock, you are a big part of the problem.

Cruz's parents were not divorced.

He and his brother had the same mother, different fathers.

They were adopted later, but his biological parents were not together

You're blaming the Parkland school shooting on adoption?

For shame.

Not at all, just disputing the statement of his parents were not divorced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.

If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.

You might want to read the NYTimes study on this subject that was published Friday. It's been studied in depth. The number of killings corresponds almost perfectly to the number of guns in our nation. Mental health problems are similar in other countries that don't have all these guns. They also don't have all the killings or mass shooters at schools.

Correct, they have mass stabbings instead. Crazy is crazy, you can’t change that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to end this, strengthen families. Almost none of these mass murderers comes from intact families.

If you got divorced (or counseled someone else to), or had a child out of wedlock, you are a big part of the problem.

Cruz's parents were not divorced.

He and his brother had the same mother, different fathers.

They were adopted later, but his biological parents were not together

You're blaming the Parkland school shooting on adoption?

For shame.

Just heard a report. This kid had red flags and issues for years. Getting rid of guns won't fix this. It's not just guns--people can set fires (and do); bombs, etc.
And, it is not "mental illness"--it is BEHAVIOR. This kid's behavior had red flags.
Now answer this: Florida investigated last year and the social worker deemed him not a danger. Is this because there was nothing that the social worker could do?
Do you know any families who have kids with serious issues--behavior, and yet, can get no help with their child because he is deemed to not be a threat?

I know of one in my neighborhood and a distant family member whose families have begged authorities for help. If the child is an adult, there is little that can be done. The kid has to agree to the "help". John Hinkley was almost released a number of times--and, would have been, had his target been anyone but the president of the United States. And, some of those times he was still fixed on Jodie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to end this, strengthen families. Almost none of these mass murderers comes from intact families.

If you got divorced (or counseled someone else to), or had a child out of wedlock, you are a big part of the problem.

Cruz's parents were not divorced.

He and his brother had the same mother, different fathers.

They were adopted later, but his biological parents were not together

You're blaming the Parkland school shooting on adoption?

For shame.

Not at all, just disputing the statement of his parents were not divorced.

They weren't -- unless you're saying that adoptive parents don't count as parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Just heard a report. This kid had red flags and issues for years. Getting rid of guns won't fix this. It's not just guns--people can set fires (and do); bombs, etc.
And, it is not "mental illness"--it is BEHAVIOR. This kid's behavior had red flags.
Now answer this: Florida investigated last year and the social worker deemed him not a danger. Is this because there was nothing that the social worker could do?
Do you know any families who have kids with serious issues--behavior, and yet, can get no help with their child because he is deemed to not be a threat?

I know of one in my neighborhood and a distant family member whose families have begged authorities for help. If the child is an adult, there is little that can be done. The kid has to agree to the "help". John Hinkley was almost released a number of times--and, would have been, had his target been anyone but the president of the United States. And, some of those times he was still fixed on Jodie.

Gun regulations won't reduce mental health problems. But they will reduce gun violence caused by mental health problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.

If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.

You might want to read the NYTimes study on this subject that was published Friday. It's been studied in depth. The number of killings corresponds almost perfectly to the number of guns in our nation. Mental health problems are similar in other countries that don't have all these guns. They also don't have all the killings or mass shooters at schools.

Correct, they have mass stabbings instead. Crazy is crazy, you can’t change that

Yes, you can't change crazy, but you can reduce the number of dead bodies. Which seems like a worthy goal to me. Do you believe that there would have been 20 dead first-graders if Adam Lanza had had a knife instead? I don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to end this, strengthen families. Almost none of these mass murderers comes from intact families.

If you got divorced (or counseled someone else to), or had a child out of wedlock, you are a big part of the problem.

Cruz was adopted into an intact family, and then the mother was widowed.

I'd be interested to know the genetics and possible mental health issues of his birth mom and dad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to end this, strengthen families. Almost none of these mass murderers comes from intact families.

If you got divorced (or counseled someone else to), or had a child out of wedlock, you are a big part of the problem.

Cruz was adopted into an intact family, and then the mother was widowed.

I'd be interested to know the genetics and possible mental health issues of his birth mom and dad.

Why? If you knew that, then what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.

If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.

You might want to read the NYTimes study on this subject that was published Friday. It's been studied in depth. The number of killings corresponds almost perfectly to the number of guns in our nation. Mental health problems are similar in other countries that don't have all these guns. They also don't have all the killings or mass shooters at schools.

Correct, they have mass stabbings instead. Crazy is crazy, you can’t change that

Yes, you can't change crazy, but you can reduce the number of dead bodies. Which seems like a worthy goal to me. Do you believe that there would have been 20 dead first-graders if Adam Lanza had had a knife instead? I don't.

It would also have helped if his mom and dad had made other life decisions, rather than divorcing and dad reestablishing another life with limited contact, and his mom sitting in a bar while Adam was at home with video games and guns in a darkened basement. He should have been hospitalized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to end this, strengthen families. Almost none of these mass murderers comes from intact families.

If you got divorced (or counseled someone else to), or had a child out of wedlock, you are a big part of the problem.

Cruz was adopted into an intact family, and then the mother was widowed.

I'd be interested to know the genetics and possible mental health issues of his birth mom and dad.

Why? If you knew that, then what?

He has such significant issues. If his adoptive parents were loving and caring (which it appears they were), then there has to be a genetic explanation for his mental illness. Schizophrenia, anxiety, depression, and ASD are typically genetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.

If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.

You might want to read the NYTimes study on this subject that was published Friday. It's been studied in depth. The number of killings corresponds almost perfectly to the number of guns in our nation. Mental health problems are similar in other countries that don't have all these guns. They also don't have all the killings or mass shooters at schools.

Correct, they have mass stabbings instead. Crazy is crazy, you can’t change that

Yes, you can't change crazy, but you can reduce the number of dead bodies. Which seems like a worthy goal to me. Do you believe that there would have been 20 dead first-graders if Adam Lanza had had a knife instead? I don't.

It would also have helped if his mom and dad had made other life decisions, rather than divorcing and dad reestablishing another life with limited contact, and his mom sitting in a bar while Adam was at home with video games and guns in a darkened basement. He should have been hospitalized.

Other people in other countries have divorced parents, absent fathers, bars, mothers in bars, video games, and darkened basements. What they don't have is: anywhere near as many guns. What they also don't have is: routine school shootings.