Harvard, Yale "feeders"

[Anonymous]

Who are you idiots? Jesus, TJ is a magnificent exemplar by any measure. Just acknowledge that and stop reaching and misleading to dilute that.

Today's bedtime story is St. Albans 9, TJ 6 to Stanford. 9 is more than 6.

That is over a 5 year period, the number for TJ is one year. But TJ has a larger enrollment? So what? I doubt Andover sends 6 kids a year to Stanford. Can't remember that from my generation. Andover is bigger than St. Albans too, so should we divide 20 to Harvard by 5 to make it look like it is really only 4?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who are you idiots? Jesus, TJ is a magnificent exemplar by any measure. Just acknowledge that and stop reaching and misleading to dilute that.

Today's bedtime story is St. Albans 9, TJ 6 to Stanford. 9 is more than 6.

That is over a 5 year period, the number for TJ is one year. But TJ has a larger enrollment? So what? I doubt Andover sends 6 kids a year to Stanford. Can't remember that from my generation. Andover is bigger than St. Albans too, so should we divide 20 to Harvard by 5 to make it look like it is really only 4?

What are you babbling about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who are you idiots? Jesus, TJ is a magnificent exemplar by any measure. Just acknowledge that and stop reaching and misleading to dilute that.

Today's bedtime story is St. Albans 9, TJ 6 to Stanford. 9 is more than 6.

That is over a 5 year period, the number for TJ is one year. But TJ has a larger enrollment? So what? I doubt Andover sends 6 kids a year to Stanford. Can't remember that from my generation. Andover is bigger than St. Albans too, so should we divide 20 to Harvard by 5 to make it look like it is really only 4?

Agree. I attended an elite prep school on that link that sends over 30%+ to the Ivies+Stanford+MIT. No school in this area comes anywhere near that except TJ.

If the kid graduates in the top 10-15 % in the Big 3, that'll have a shot at the Ivies+Stanford+MIT but than so do the kids who graduate from public hs like Chevy Chase, Montgomery, Etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree. I attended an elite prep school on that link that sends over 30%+ to the Ivies+Stanford+MIT. No school in this area comes anywhere near that except TJ.

If the numbers on the previous page are accurate, then TJ is sending about 9% to the Ivies+Stanford+MIT, not 30%. Yes, it's impressive that 8 went to MIT, but don't forget that 9 went to VCU. Not taking anything away from TJ -- great school -- but cherrypicking the top 10%'s results doesn't make much sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. I attended an elite prep school on that link that sends over 30%+ to the Ivies+Stanford+MIT. No school in this area comes anywhere near that except TJ.

If the numbers on the previous page are accurate, then TJ is sending about 9% to the Ivies+Stanford+MIT, not 30%. Yes, it's impressive that 8 went to MIT, but don't forget that 9 went to VCU. Not taking anything away from TJ -- great school -- but cherrypicking the top 10%'s results doesn't make much sense.

But you are not taking into account the family's means to be able to send to MIT. Presumably a a family that sent a child to 12 years at private would not balk at another 4 years at MIT, but the family who has their child at TJ maybe the typical Middle to Upper Middle Class family that lives in that area that can't afford to send a kid full-freight to MIT, so the kid doesn't apply to MIT. What's the use of knowing you could get in, if you are only going to be told that you can't go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But you are not taking into account the family's means to be able to send to MIT. Presumably a a family that sent a child to 12 years at private would not balk at another 4 years at MIT, but the family who has their child at TJ maybe the typical Middle to Upper Middle Class family that lives in that area that can't afford to send a kid full-freight to MIT, so the kid doesn't apply to MIT. What's the use of knowing you could get in, if you are only going to be told that you can't go?

Give me a break. Have you looked at the demographics of the area recently? The 1% FARMS, 1% AA/Hispanic, Northern Virginia crowd that populates TJ is hardly the underprivileged community you want to portray. Given the number of high tech engineers and business types in Northern Virginia, not to mention all the lawyers and doctors, I'm betting most TJ grads have no problem paying for college, and also that more of them have legacy hooks into those schools than their peers at other Northern Virginia schools. Cry me a river!

[Anonymous]

It's a bad look for GDS parent posters to swing the same dead cat and keep repeating the same thing. It is an excellent prep school. Sometimes the comparibles line up more attractive than GDS depending on the metrics people use. Hard stop.

There are other excellent prep schools, and it isn't disputable that top public school kids in the DMV burbs have a fair share of select college opportunities. Nothing convinces me that the same kid at Oakton HS or Whitman HS is instantly a different kid or candidate because of that same kid were at GDS or Andover. I truly believe that, and I did go to Andover. Motivated and bright young adults find opportunities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But you are not taking into account the family's means to be able to send to MIT. Presumably a a family that sent a child to 12 years at private would not balk at another 4 years at MIT, but the family who has their child at TJ maybe the typical Middle to Upper Middle Class family that lives in that area that can't afford to send a kid full-freight to MIT, so the kid doesn't apply to MIT. What's the use of knowing you could get in, if you are only going to be told that you can't go?

Give me a break. Have you looked at the demographics of the area recently? The 1% FARMS, 1% AA/Hispanic, Northern Virginia crowd that populates TJ is hardly the underprivileged community you want to portray. Given the number of high tech engineers and business types in Northern Virginia, not to mention all the lawyers and doctors, I'm betting most TJ grads have no problem paying for college, and also that more of them have legacy hooks into those schools than their peers at other Northern Virginia schools. Cry me a river!

totally agree and true of the (many) TJ families we know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can always move to Montana, Alaska, Mississippi, etc.

Or you could be less obnoxious based on what I wrote out of personal experience at one of these "feeder" boarding schools. Sorry if not welcomed. My point is if you are not a kid with family advantages, being a star student at a public may play better than being a star at a prep where a lot of these opportunities are crowded out because they are bespoke spots. Sounds like Sidwell had a lot of that to Yale this year. It's a hard deal for a kid who gets best grades and has a great application but impossible odds because a bunch of his classmates'd descendants came over on the Mayflower and went straight to Cambridge a generation since. Be realistic that this is a challenge and a big factor. It's a big mistake to point to how wonderful a prep is to get 8 or 10 to any Ivy without some restraint to remember there is a lot more going on there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Folks: This question was answered years ago. GDS sends more kids to Harvard than any other school in the country

Sorry, for those of us who are new, can you elaborate a little bit your comment (truth, joke, sarcasm?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Folks: This question was answered years ago. GDS sends more kids to Harvard than any other school in the country

Sorry, for those of us who are new, can you elaborate a little bit your comment (truth, joke, sarcasm?)

About a year ago, some GDS booster started peppering multiple threads with unsubstantiated brags about how many GDS students got admitted to Harvard. Someone else - maybe multiple people now - have been mocking that booster ever since by making ever-more-outrageous claims about GDS's supposed connection to Harvard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Folks: This question was answered years ago. GDS sends more kids to Harvard than any other school in the country

Sorry, for those of us who are new, can you elaborate a little bit your comment (truth, joke, sarcasm?)

About a year ago, some GDS booster started peppering multiple threads with unsubstantiated brags about how many GDS students got admitted to Harvard. Someone else - maybe multiple people now - have been mocking that booster ever since by making ever-more-outrageous claims about GDS's supposed connection to Harvard.

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's also notable that the most impressive overall matriculation list school in the DMV is Thomas Jefferson in Fairfax Co. In the past 5 years TJ has placed more kids to M.I.T. than the Big 3 combined.

What happens next is someone writes that M.I.T. isn't an Ivy. Well, neither is Stanford. TJ also sends more kids to Stanford than any Big 3. Same for UVA, Univ Michigan, Univ Cal Berkeley. See what I did there? Just saved this board 4-7 pages of pathetic one-up poster tennis.

Proof please. I don't think your summary is accurate.

Below are the numbers for attendances, not just acceptances for TJ's 2015 class. It's for one year only. Does anyone have the numbers for big 3?

http://thebullelephant.com/college-destinations-for-tjhsst-class-of-2015/

Harvard 3
MIT 8
Williams 1
Cal Tech 1
Pomona 1
Stanford 6
UC Berkeley 6
U. of Chicago 8
Johns Hopkins 5
Carnegie Mellon 16
UPenn 2
Yale 5
Vanderbilt 3
Duke 9
Columbia 4
Cornell 14
Princeton 5
Darmouth 2
Washington University 8

[Anonymous]

My fascination ends with that list. TJ is one fine school, and it is a free magnet school for any kid admitted. Don't they also matriculate nearly 100 kids a year to UVA? Before the posters start trading again, I would imagine that UVA at a cost of $15K could incline an in-state kid to go there over Duke, Notre Dame, etc. Some young Californians who get into Berkeley choose it over Stanford. I don't take a negative view of that choice. UVA and Berkeley both have a strong national stature.

[Anonymous]

That TJ mom dropped the mic with that list! All I hear are crickets from the Big3.