Harvard, Yale "feeders"

[Anonymous]

Sidwell last year (class of 2015) had --

Yale 11
Penn 9
Harvard 1
MIT 1
Berkeley 4
Brown 1
Chicago 6
Columbia 1
Dartmouth 2
Cornell 1
Williams 1
Middlebury 1
Rice 1
Vanderbilt 1
Duke 1
Tufts 1
Wellesley 1
Smith 1
Barnard 1
Bates 2
Hamilton 1
Michigan 3

Those are the numbers I can confirm. There may be more.

[Anonymous]

That's less than half the class, right?

[Anonymous]

A little less, but I forgot the two who went to Stanford.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since Sidwell does not release their matriculation stats like most other elite privates, we don't know.

For better or worse, as far as I can tell, Sidwell is not alone. I don't see NCS or GDS publishing matriculation stats. So STA is all we have to go on, but that's ok because I suspect it's pretty representative of the others.

Anonymous wrote:So let's look at St Albans which does, graduating #20 out of 80 from St Alban's does not get you into an Ivy, MIT or Stanford either ...

I think you're wrong here. If you look at the 5-year averages STA publishes, you see 93 total matriculations at Ivies+Stanford (but not including MIT or Brown). STA only publishes the most common colleges, so let's conservatively assume there are 3-4 each at MIT and Brown over those 5 years, which brings us to 100 total matriculations. In other words, on average 20 per year to Ivies+Stanford+MIT, or roughly 25% of the class. That's certainly less as a raw number than the 40-45 students TJ might send to those same colleges, but since TJ has 5-6 times more students submitting applications, those 40-45 students represent only roughly 10% of the school.

... and the bottom 20% certainly do not go to UVA or Berkley.

You're right we don't know where the bottom 20% of the STA class went to college. But because TJ publishes full matriculation data, we can see where the bottom 20% of TJ goes, and it's clearly not UVA or Berkeley. When I look at TJ's list, I see plenty to schools like Indiana, UCSD, Kalamazoo, Ohio State, Pittsburgh, Alabama, Stony Brook, VCU, Miami, etc. Those are all perfectly respectable colleges IMHO, and I suspect they're not too dissimilar to where the bottom 25% of STA might go.

m

Yawn. Even STA will tell you #20 is NOT getting into an Ivy, MIT or Stanford. It is a far, far reach even for a legacy at those schools unless you are donating a building named after you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A little less, but I forgot the two who went to Stanford.

m

So 28 to Ivies, MIT and Stanford. How many in the class? Your list isn't obviously the full list.

[Anonymous]

So what percentage of boys at STA actually go to good schools? If #20 does not, does #15?

[Anonymous]

29. Did not see Barnard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So what percentage of boys at STA actually go to good schools? If #20 does not, does #15?

#20 will go to a good school just not ivy, MIT or Stanford.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yawn. Even STA will tell you #20 is NOT getting into an Ivy, MIT or Stanford. It is a far, far reach even for a legacy at those schools unless you are donating a building named after you.

Do you think the numbers STA publishes on its website are just fictional? They show that #20 is going to an Ivy, MIT or Stanford. And even the partial numbers PP posted for Sidwell suggest the same thing there -- at least 29 to an Ivy, MIT or Stanford in 2015.

[Anonymous]

Is there really that much of a line between the Ivies and a school like Williams or Chicago? A lot of top students choose top LACs over Ivies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yawn. Even STA will tell you #20 is NOT getting into an Ivy, MIT or Stanford. It is a far, far reach even for a legacy at those schools unless you are donating a building named after you.

Do you think the numbers STA publishes on its website are just fictional? They show that #20 is going to an Ivy, MIT or Stanford. And even the partial numbers PP posted for Sidwell suggest the same thing there -- at least 29 to an Ivy, MIT or Stanford in 2015.

Ask STA when you tour or ask a parent of a senior there.

[Anonymous]

There were also Sidwell students who went to Northwestern and Washington University last year --both fine schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there really that much of a line between the Ivies and a school like Williams or Chicago? A lot of top students choose top LACs over Ivies.

Williams, Amherst, etc are great schools but asking for comparisons since there are private schools that do send 30-40% of their graduating class to Ivies, MIT and Stanford and they publish their matriculation lists by year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There were also Sidwell students who went to Northwestern and Washington University last year --both fine schools.

Yes, but not exactly Ivy League, are they?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There were also Sidwell students who went to Northwestern and Washington University last year --both fine schools.

Yes, but not exactly Ivy League, are they?

Northwestern is comparable to a "lower" Ivy. WashU is not far off.