The thread for the, "buying under $600,000," crowd.

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone is looking under $400k in Fairfax City area - my neighbor and I went for a look-see at this one today: FC8329443

http://www.mlsfinder.com/md_mris/kw_674/index.cfm?action=listing_detail&property_id=FC8329443&searchkey=a46c72fd-d216-a40d-1385-66109cc9a7ab

Needs some updating but overall nice sunny yard, fresh paint and updated baths but kitchen needs updating (livable).


My SIL lives in that neighborhood. She grew up there and then also bought there. It is a very, very nice neighborhood.
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I can also recommend Silver Spring 20910. If OP's DH work is metro-accessible, you could consider SS. I would really hesitate to consider SS if you are locked into a car commute.

This house in SS is in the BCC cluster schools (right at your limit @ 599k):
http://www.redfin.com/city/26038/MD/Silver-Spring/..._id=26038®ion_type=6&market=dc



I drive every day from 20901. I get to work faster than my co-worker who gets on the Metro in DTSS.


Ok, where do you commute to in NoVa and at what times of day?

I did the commute for a time from 20910 to Rosslyn. At rush hour, Metro was definitely faster.


Also to Rosslyn. Leave between 7-7:30, takes 50 mins or less via 16th St/RCP.
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Same curriculum. Schools are fine if you focus on your own kid.

Also don't like that you can see ugly apartments from backyard of this house.

For that price you can almost tear down and build new, crazy to pay $600K for a shack.

Don't be ridiculous. Focusing on your own kids is all very well but it can't negate the fact that the same house would sell for more in a better school district. You are trying to deny that schools affect house pricing and it just is not correct. They do, very much so, otherwise the whole S. Arlington vs. N. Arlington would be a non-issue. Otherwise the stroller brigade would not be deserting hip, fun areas of DC when kids inch closer to ES age. Otherwise shacks in AU park wouldn't be selling close to a million dollars. Wake up.


Are you seriously trying to compare Pimmit Hills to North Arlington or AU Park? Don't be ridiculous. They aren't even close.

Not to mention that people who really obsess about schools the way you suggest they do want Yorktown, W-L, George Mason, Langley, Madison, McLean, Woodson or Oakton, not Marshall.

Again, for those considering $600K homes there are many possibilities out there that need not involve looking at overpriced homes like this PH tear-down candidate. Stop recommending POS properties in PH at every turn and you may find people react differently when the name comes up.


No one said ph is on par with north Arlington but you definitely can't buy a home under 600k in North Arlington.

And since when are all ph homes pieces of shit? I can post a dozen homes in your area that are far wrprse and sitting longer but everyone already knows that.

Marshall is a good option and is rated well much better than stuart, lee or fall church high.

Ohh I am sure you have seen this list
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/379716.page


Falls Church is #23 on that list and Annandale is #30, for the entire state. Stuart was on that list too last year IIRC. I'd certainly trade a #10 for another school also ranked top 50 in the state, if it meant living in a nicer house and not one that was a case of putting lipstick on a vinyl pig.


You can change vinyl siding but you can't change location.


But it's certainly chutzpah not to change the vinyl siding and expect someone to cough up over $615K to live there.


New poster here. I am familiar with pimmit hills and homes that are completely updated inside like the one above do sell for 600k+.
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Same curriculum. Schools are fine if you focus on your own kid.

Also don't like that you can see ugly apartments from backyard of this house.

For that price you can almost tear down and build new, crazy to pay $600K for a shack.

Don't be ridiculous. Focusing on your own kids is all very well but it can't negate the fact that the same house would sell for more in a better school district. You are trying to deny that schools affect house pricing and it just is not correct. They do, very much so, otherwise the whole S. Arlington vs. N. Arlington would be a non-issue. Otherwise the stroller brigade would not be deserting hip, fun areas of DC when kids inch closer to ES age. Otherwise shacks in AU park wouldn't be selling close to a million dollars. Wake up.


Are you seriously trying to compare Pimmit Hills to North Arlington or AU Park? Don't be ridiculous. They aren't even close.

Not to mention that people who really obsess about schools the way you suggest they do want Yorktown, W-L, George Mason, Langley, Madison, McLean, Woodson or Oakton, not Marshall.

Again, for those considering $600K homes there are many possibilities out there that need not involve looking at overpriced homes like this PH tear-down candidate. Stop recommending POS properties in PH at every turn and you may find people react differently when the name comes up.


No one said ph is on par with north Arlington but you definitely can't buy a home under 600k in North Arlington.

And since when are all ph homes pieces of shit? I can post a dozen homes in your area that are far wrprse and sitting longer but everyone already knows that.

Marshall is a good option and is rated well much better than stuart, lee or fall church high.

Ohh I am sure you have seen this list
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/379716.page


Falls Church is #23 on that list and Annandale is #30, for the entire state. Stuart was on that list too last year IIRC. I'd certainly trade a #10 for another school also ranked top 50 in the state, if it meant living in a nicer house and not one that was a case of putting lipstick on a vinyl pig.


You can change vinyl siding but you can't change location.


But it's certainly chutzpah not to change the vinyl siding and expect someone to cough up over $615K to live there.


New poster here. I am familiar with pimmit hills and homes that are completely updated inside like the one above do sell for 600k+.


Examples? Only house remotely similar to this Pimmit Hills house I could find was 7405 Bethune, which sold for $630K in 2012. It's a larger house (2500 SF vs. 1900 SF), is two stories vs. one, is a superior renovation (and not a quick flip), and is rated by the county as "Good" construction quality and condition, compared to 7414 Paxton, which is rated "Average" construction quality and "Fair" condition.

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Same curriculum. Schools are fine if you focus on your own kid.

Also don't like that you can see ugly apartments from backyard of this house.

For that price you can almost tear down and build new, crazy to pay $600K for a shack.

Don't be ridiculous. Focusing on your own kids is all very well but it can't negate the fact that the same house would sell for more in a better school district. You are trying to deny that schools affect house pricing and it just is not correct. They do, very much so, otherwise the whole S. Arlington vs. N. Arlington would be a non-issue. Otherwise the stroller brigade would not be deserting hip, fun areas of DC when kids inch closer to ES age. Otherwise shacks in AU park wouldn't be selling close to a million dollars. Wake up.


Are you seriously trying to compare Pimmit Hills to North Arlington or AU Park? Don't be ridiculous. They aren't even close.

Not to mention that people who really obsess about schools the way you suggest they do want Yorktown, W-L, George Mason, Langley, Madison, McLean, Woodson or Oakton, not Marshall.

Again, for those considering $600K homes there are many possibilities out there that need not involve looking at overpriced homes like this PH tear-down candidate. Stop recommending POS properties in PH at every turn and you may find people react differently when the name comes up.


No one said ph is on par with north Arlington but you definitely can't buy a home under 600k in North Arlington.

And since when are all ph homes pieces of shit? I can post a dozen homes in your area that are far wrprse and sitting longer but everyone already knows that.

Marshall is a good option and is rated well much better than stuart, lee or fall church high.

Ohh I am sure you have seen this list
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/379716.page


Falls Church is #23 on that list and Annandale is #30, for the entire state. Stuart was on that list too last year IIRC. I'd certainly trade a #10 for another school also ranked top 50 in the state, if it meant living in a nicer house and not one that was a case of putting lipstick on a vinyl pig.


You can change vinyl siding but you can't change location.


But it's certainly chutzpah not to change the vinyl siding and expect someone to cough up over $615K to live there.


New poster here. I am familiar with pimmit hills and homes that are completely updated inside like the one above do sell for 600k+.


Examples? Only house remotely similar to this Pimmit Hills house I could find was 7405 Bethune, which sold for $630K in 2012. It's a larger house (2500 SF vs. 1900 SF), is two stories vs. one, is a superior renovation (and not a quick flip), and is rated by the county as "Good" construction quality and condition, compared to 7414 Paxton, which is rated "Average" construction quality and "Fair" condition.



Interesting that you would mention year's assessment which doesn't reflect the renovation.

I think this area of fairfax county is going to be interesting with all the new development and changes.

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Same curriculum. Schools are fine if you focus on your own kid.

Also don't like that you can see ugly apartments from backyard of this house.

For that price you can almost tear down and build new, crazy to pay $600K for a shack.

Don't be ridiculous. Focusing on your own kids is all very well but it can't negate the fact that the same house would sell for more in a better school district. You are trying to deny that schools affect house pricing and it just is not correct. They do, very much so, otherwise the whole S. Arlington vs. N. Arlington would be a non-issue. Otherwise the stroller brigade would not be deserting hip, fun areas of DC when kids inch closer to ES age. Otherwise shacks in AU park wouldn't be selling close to a million dollars. Wake up.


Are you seriously trying to compare Pimmit Hills to North Arlington or AU Park? Don't be ridiculous. They aren't even close.

Not to mention that people who really obsess about schools the way you suggest they do want Yorktown, W-L, George Mason, Langley, Madison, McLean, Woodson or Oakton, not Marshall.

Again, for those considering $600K homes there are many possibilities out there that need not involve looking at overpriced homes like this PH tear-down candidate. Stop recommending POS properties in PH at every turn and you may find people react differently when the name comes up.


No one said ph is on par with north Arlington but you definitely can't buy a home under 600k in North Arlington.

And since when are all ph homes pieces of shit? I can post a dozen homes in your area that are far wrprse and sitting longer but everyone already knows that.

Marshall is a good option and is rated well much better than stuart, lee or fall church high.

Ohh I am sure you have seen this list
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/379716.page


Falls Church is #23 on that list and Annandale is #30, for the entire state. Stuart was on that list too last year IIRC. I'd certainly trade a #10 for another school also ranked top 50 in the state, if it meant living in a nicer house and not one that was a case of putting lipstick on a vinyl pig.


You can change vinyl siding but you can't change location.


But it's certainly chutzpah not to change the vinyl siding and expect someone to cough up over $615K to live there.


New poster here. I am familiar with pimmit hills and homes that are completely updated inside like the one above do sell for 600k+.


Examples? Only house remotely similar to this Pimmit Hills house I could find was 7405 Bethune, which sold for $630K in 2012. It's a larger house (2500 SF vs. 1900 SF), is two stories vs. one, is a superior renovation (and not a quick flip), and is rated by the county as "Good" construction quality and condition, compared to 7414 Paxton, which is rated "Average" construction quality and "Fair" condition.



Interesting that you would mention year's assessment which doesn't reflect the renovation.

I think this area of fairfax county is going to be interesting with all the new development and changes.



Data is as of 4/25/14. I assume the flipper needed to have the house inspected before he put it on the market for over $230K more than what he paid for it last October.

The higher appreciation is now taking place elsewhere. Only a sucker would buy this house for over $600K thinking they'll see lots of appreciation.
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Same curriculum. Schools are fine if you focus on your own kid.

Also don't like that you can see ugly apartments from backyard of this house.

For that price you can almost tear down and build new, crazy to pay $600K for a shack.

Don't be ridiculous. Focusing on your own kids is all very well but it can't negate the fact that the same house would sell for more in a better school district. You are trying to deny that schools affect house pricing and it just is not correct. They do, very much so, otherwise the whole S. Arlington vs. N. Arlington would be a non-issue. Otherwise the stroller brigade would not be deserting hip, fun areas of DC when kids inch closer to ES age. Otherwise shacks in AU park wouldn't be selling close to a million dollars. Wake up.


Are you seriously trying to compare Pimmit Hills to North Arlington or AU Park? Don't be ridiculous. They aren't even close.

Not to mention that people who really obsess about schools the way you suggest they do want Yorktown, W-L, George Mason, Langley, Madison, McLean, Woodson or Oakton, not Marshall.

Again, for those considering $600K homes there are many possibilities out there that need not involve looking at overpriced homes like this PH tear-down candidate. Stop recommending POS properties in PH at every turn and you may find people react differently when the name comes up.


No one said ph is on par with north Arlington but you definitely can't buy a home under 600k in North Arlington.

And since when are all ph homes pieces of shit? I can post a dozen homes in your area that are far wrprse and sitting longer but everyone already knows that.

Marshall is a good option and is rated well much better than stuart, lee or fall church high.

Ohh I am sure you have seen this list
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/379716.page


Falls Church is #23 on that list and Annandale is #30, for the entire state. Stuart was on that list too last year IIRC. I'd certainly trade a #10 for another school also ranked top 50 in the state, if it meant living in a nicer house and not one that was a case of putting lipstick on a vinyl pig.


You can change vinyl siding but you can't change location.


But it's certainly chutzpah not to change the vinyl siding and expect someone to cough up over $615K to live there.


New poster here. I am familiar with pimmit hills and homes that are completely updated inside like the one above do sell for 600k+.


Examples? Only house remotely similar to this Pimmit Hills house I could find was 7405 Bethune, which sold for $630K in 2012. It's a larger house (2500 SF vs. 1900 SF), is two stories vs. one, is a superior renovation (and not a quick flip), and is rated by the county as "Good" construction quality and condition, compared to 7414 Paxton, which is rated "Average" construction quality and "Fair" condition.



Interesting that you would mention year's assessment which doesn't reflect the renovation.

I think this area of fairfax county is going to be interesting with all the new development and changes.



Data is as of 4/25/14. I assume the flipper needed to have the house inspected before he put it on the market for over $230K more than what he paid for it last October.

The higher appreciation is now taking place elsewhere. Only a sucker would buy this house for over $600K thinking they'll see lots of appreciation.


I don't think you are familiar with the fairfax county inspection and assessment process. New homes and renovations usually take over a year to be recorded.

The icare record still shows
Year Addition 2005
Year House Remodeled {blank}

So the assesment has not changed yet.

Appreciation is happening everywhere, it didn't stop in that part of fairfax county. In fact as more and more of the re-development is completed, appreciation will continue at a steady pace.

Have you looked at the market? There aren't any other homes of that size in that school district for less than 625K so this appears to be properly priced.

I just found this smaller home that went under contract immediately in a bidding war starting at 550k http://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/7529-Lisle-Ave-22043/home/9471255
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Same curriculum. Schools are fine if you focus on your own kid.

Also don't like that you can see ugly apartments from backyard of this house.

For that price you can almost tear down and build new, crazy to pay $600K for a shack.

Don't be ridiculous. Focusing on your own kids is all very well but it can't negate the fact that the same house would sell for more in a better school district. You are trying to deny that schools affect house pricing and it just is not correct. They do, very much so, otherwise the whole S. Arlington vs. N. Arlington would be a non-issue. Otherwise the stroller brigade would not be deserting hip, fun areas of DC when kids inch closer to ES age. Otherwise shacks in AU park wouldn't be selling close to a million dollars. Wake up.


Are you seriously trying to compare Pimmit Hills to North Arlington or AU Park? Don't be ridiculous. They aren't even close.

Not to mention that people who really obsess about schools the way you suggest they do want Yorktown, W-L, George Mason, Langley, Madison, McLean, Woodson or Oakton, not Marshall.

Again, for those considering $600K homes there are many possibilities out there that need not involve looking at overpriced homes like this PH tear-down candidate. Stop recommending POS properties in PH at every turn and you may find people react differently when the name comes up.


No one said ph is on par with north Arlington but you definitely can't buy a home under 600k in North Arlington.

And since when are all ph homes pieces of shit? I can post a dozen homes in your area that are far wrprse and sitting longer but everyone already knows that.

Marshall is a good option and is rated well much better than stuart, lee or fall church high.

Ohh I am sure you have seen this list
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/379716.page


Falls Church is #23 on that list and Annandale is #30, for the entire state. Stuart was on that list too last year IIRC. I'd certainly trade a #10 for another school also ranked top 50 in the state, if it meant living in a nicer house and not one that was a case of putting lipstick on a vinyl pig.


You can change vinyl siding but you can't change location.


But it's certainly chutzpah not to change the vinyl siding and expect someone to cough up over $615K to live there.


New poster here. I am familiar with pimmit hills and homes that are completely updated inside like the one above do sell for 600k+.


Examples? Only house remotely similar to this Pimmit Hills house I could find was 7405 Bethune, which sold for $630K in 2012. It's a larger house (2500 SF vs. 1900 SF), is two stories vs. one, is a superior renovation (and not a quick flip), and is rated by the county as "Good" construction quality and condition, compared to 7414 Paxton, which is rated "Average" construction quality and "Fair" condition.



Interesting that you would mention year's assessment which doesn't reflect the renovation.

I think this area of fairfax county is going to be interesting with all the new development and changes.



Data is as of 4/25/14. I assume the flipper needed to have the house inspected before he put it on the market for over $230K more than what he paid for it last October.

The higher appreciation is now taking place elsewhere. Only a sucker would buy this house for over $600K thinking they'll see lots of appreciation.


I don't think you are familiar with the fairfax county inspection and assessment process. New homes and renovations usually take over a year to be recorded.

The icare record still shows
Year Addition 2005
Year House Remodeled {blank}

So the assesment has not changed yet.

Appreciation is happening everywhere, it didn't stop in that part of fairfax county. In fact as more and more of the re-development is completed, appreciation will continue at a steady pace.

Have you looked at the market? There aren't any other homes of that size in that school district for less than 625K so this appears to be properly priced.

I just found this smaller home that went under contract immediately in a bidding war starting at 550k http://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/7529-Lisle-Ave-22043/home/9471255


Here is that other home and I believe it is going to be sold close to 600k http://www.floorplanonline.com/presentation_v2/presentation.php?order_id=132583
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I don't think you are familiar with the fairfax county inspection and assessment process. New homes and renovations usually take over a year to be recorded.

The icare record still shows
Year Addition 2005
Year House Remodeled {blank}

So the assesment has not changed yet.

Appreciation is happening everywhere, it didn't stop in that part of fairfax county. In fact as more and more of the re-development is completed, appreciation will continue at a steady pace.

Have you looked at the market? There aren't any other homes of that size in that school district for less than 625K so this appears to be properly priced.

I just found this smaller home that went under contract immediately in a bidding war starting at 550k http://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/7529-Lisle-Ave-22043/home/9471255


Either way, the county does not yet appear to have made any determination that the house is of any better than "Average" construction quality or "Fair" condition. The flipper is asking $230K more than what he paid for the house six months ago, but the renovations appear to be largely cosmetic.

As for the school district, you can find plenty of houses in the price range in the Woodson and West Springfield districts, which most would consider preferable to Marshall (they are both AP schools, whereas Marshall has the less popular IB program). And, if you want IB, you can get the exact same IB diploma at Annandale, Stuart and several other schools with more affordable homes.

I still think this house is unattractive and greatly overpriced.
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I just found this smaller home that went under contract immediately in a bidding war starting at 550k http://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/7529-Lisle-Ave-22043/home/9471255


Guess we'll see. That house has a very odd history, having previously sold for $525K in 2006, $273K in mid-2009 and $428K in late 2009. I'm not sure I'd view any sales price associated with that house as reflective of the current market.
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Guys, could the Pimmit Hills debate have its own thread? I will start one for you! I like the genuine discussion of neighborhoods and houses under 6.
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I don't think you are familiar with the fairfax county inspection and assessment process. New homes and renovations usually take over a year to be recorded.

The icare record still shows
Year Addition 2005
Year House Remodeled {blank}

So the assesment has not changed yet.

Appreciation is happening everywhere, it didn't stop in that part of fairfax county. In fact as more and more of the re-development is completed, appreciation will continue at a steady pace.

Have you looked at the market? There aren't any other homes of that size in that school district for less than 625K so this appears to be properly priced.

I just found this smaller home that went under contract immediately in a bidding war starting at 550k http://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/7529-Lisle-Ave-22043/home/9471255


Either way, the county does not yet appear to have made any determination that the house is of any better than "Average" construction quality or "Fair" condition. The flipper is asking $230K more than what he paid for the house six months ago, but the renovations appear to be largely cosmetic.

As for the school district, you can find plenty of houses in the price range in the Woodson and West Springfield districts, which most would consider preferable to Marshall (they are both AP schools, whereas Marshall has the less popular IB program). And, if you want IB, you can get the exact same IB diploma at Annandale, Stuart and several other schools with more affordable homes.

I still think this house is unattractive and greatly overpriced.

Woodson and W.Springfield districts are both nice neighborhoods with good schools. Stuart doesn't have the same reputation. If you commute to DC, Marshall district is better for commuting times. Also, if you live in the Marshall district and want AP instead of IB, you can attend McLean High.

When it comes to houses, there is no such thing as "overpriced." If someone likes it enough to buy it, it isn't "overpriced." It may not be worth as much in your eyes. You may have trouble believing it sells for that much. But if it sells, then there's no real basis to say it's overpriced. It's all relative.
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Anonymous wrote:Guys, could the Pimmit Hills debate have its own thread? I will start one for you! I like the genuine discussion of neighborhoods and houses under 6.


I agree, I simply provided some homes in Pimmit Hills under 600K and was attacked. Not sure why.
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I don't think you are familiar with the fairfax county inspection and assessment process. New homes and renovations usually take over a year to be recorded.

The icare record still shows
Year Addition 2005
Year House Remodeled {blank}

So the assesment has not changed yet.

Appreciation is happening everywhere, it didn't stop in that part of fairfax county. In fact as more and more of the re-development is completed, appreciation will continue at a steady pace.

Have you looked at the market? There aren't any other homes of that size in that school district for less than 625K so this appears to be properly priced.

I just found this smaller home that went under contract immediately in a bidding war starting at 550k http://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/7529-Lisle-Ave-22043/home/9471255


Either way, the county does not yet appear to have made any determination that the house is of any better than "Average" construction quality or "Fair" condition. The flipper is asking $230K more than what he paid for the house six months ago, but the renovations appear to be largely cosmetic.

As for the school district, you can find plenty of houses in the price range in the Woodson and West Springfield districts, which most would consider preferable to Marshall (they are both AP schools, whereas Marshall has the less popular IB program). And, if you want IB, you can get the exact same IB diploma at Annandale, Stuart and several other schools with more affordable homes.

I still think this house is unattractive and greatly overpriced.

Woodson and W.Springfield districts are both nice neighborhoods with good schools. Stuart doesn't have the same reputation. If you commute to DC, Marshall district is better for commuting times. Also, if you live in the Marshall district and want AP instead of IB, you can attend McLean High.

When it comes to houses, there is no such thing as "overpriced." If someone likes it enough to buy it, it isn't "overpriced." It may not be worth as much in your eyes. You may have trouble believing it sells for that much. But if it sells, then there's no real basis to say it's overpriced. It's all relative.


A house may be considered "overpriced" if it's listed for more that it sells for, or sells for more than it's subsequently appraised for. The most recent sales price is one, but not the only, measure of a home's value.
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Here are some nice houses around $600K in the Woodson and West Springfield districts:

http://franklymls.com/FX8330156

http://franklymls.com/FX8300908
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