The frog asked the scorpion, "Why did you do that? Now we both will drown!" The scorpion replied, "Because I am a scorpion. It is in my nature." |
Maybe you should try to pay more attention. The bill Jawando voted against is from 2020, not this year. You’re talking about something completely different. I’m taking about Jawando voting against a great piece of common-sense housing legislation for NIMBY reasons. |
How would you know that? He commissioned the poll. It can be slanted in the questions OR in the population it sampled. If I polled a population of, for example, solely developers and asked them who they would vote for…. |
You seem to be confused. Jawando voted against a bad subsidy for market rate housing to bail out one of Friedson’s donors. That same year, Jawando sponsored a bill to increase density near metro, only to have Friedson and Riemer let it die in the committee. Friedson then came late last year and advocated getting rid of single family zoning everywhere except Potomac. |
Are you a YIMBY or a NIMBY? Just wondering. |
Pro growth, but seen enough to say Friedson’s way of doing things hasn’t worked and smart enough to know his way of doing things will never work because it incentivizes the wrong behavior. I know the YIMBYs dislike Jawando because he’s opposed (but not stopped) bad policies and pointed out how dumb they are but only in YIMBYland is Jawando a NIMBY. YIMBYism has never had growth as its first goal. Just profit. Look around. Landlords make plenty of money, but you can’t say we’ve had plenty of growth. |
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One thing I've been struck by is how devoid the YIMBY movement is of any principles or critical thinking. It's just "build, build, build," and if you're opposed to that, then you're not a progressive. There's this dude Mike who posts all over Reddit and GGW with this nonsense, and it's just about how people opposed to "build, build, build" are stuck in their old ways and not real progressives. There's no analysis of why "build, build, build" hasn't achieved the desired goals to date, nothing about what specific policies are needed if the goal is affordable housing, nothing like that. It's just about demonizing anyone who doesn't believe in "build, build, build." It's remarkably oversimplistic and naive, and sells people on false hope. |
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Who is the the biggest NIMBY?
Because that is who I want to vote for. |
YIMBYism falls apart under light scrutiny so its advocates attack anyone who dares to question any aspect of it. Its main purpose is to enrich apartment controls at the expense of everyone else. |
| I got a list of the Realtor approved candidates stuck in my door and even as a mild yimby I was like WTF |
I was surprised that the realtors endorsed every council incumbent who voted for the property tax increase. Why are they attacking executive candidates who voted against it while supporting the people who created it and voted for it? Makes no sense. |
Their arguments are ridiculously weak. |
Montgomery County has plenty of affordable housing. You can get SFHs near Forest Glen, Glenmont, and Wheaton Metro stations for as much as SFHs in a lot of neighborhoods in Baltimore City. Compared to Northern Virginia and DC, Montgomery County is dirt cheap. The problem is not affordable housing, it’s incentivizing more high income, young DINKs and businesses to come to the county and pushing the brakes on all these projects that attract people who take more in services than they contribute in taxes. There was a recent report that 126,000 MD residents go to NoVa for work. From an economic standpoint that is pathetic, and it has a lot of detrimental environmental effects as well, much more than getting a plastic bag at a grocery store. |
| Observation: This thread is almost entirely focused on the YIMBY/NIMBY debate. I'm sure DCUM is not a representative sample, but it surprises me that there aren't a lot of other issues that come up in making this decision.... |