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02/04/2026 14:50

Subject: UVA deferral but UNC and Mich and UGA accepted

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Anonymous wrote:Oy it isn't yield protection. UVA does not yield protect.

But it does take a lot of out-of-state students (a much higher percentage than comparable state schools). And it does feel a responsibility to limit how many students from Northern Virginia so that it can take some from the Rest of Virginia.

And it, of course, limits how many it takes from a particular high school in NOVA. These are not quotas or hard limits but they are a reality and it hurts TJ more than any other school, then probably the most high performing HS in Virginia (the McLeans and Langleys) and then of course the private high schools.

All of those schools have far more applicants who would likely be accepted if they were from Roanoke than those who actually get in.

In other words, it is not yield protection, it is that your peers are very strong. It feels unfair but that is the reality in a lot of schools.

Spot on. OP, why not just accept this common sense explanation? Why do you insist on making it into a conspiracy? Is your very accomplished kid so fragile that he or she can't handle one deferral?

DP. Don’t live in Virginia, didn’t apply to UVA, but kids getting in to HYP but not UVA seems like obvious yield protection to me.

In my opinion the burden is on the people saying that UVA doesn’t yield protect to show that UVA in-state has a lower admissions rate and a higher SAT range than HYP.

If you can’t show that, all this chatter about how UVA is actually, secretly, far more selective than any other school on earth is just nonsense.

You're mentioning completely outlier situations. Very few people get into HYP and are rejected from UVA. It is possible that someone with a very specific hook gets into a particular Ivy but does not get into UVA.

Look... how do we know that UVA does not yield protect? First of all, it wouldn't make sense. There are incredibly strong students who are accepted to Ivies but choose UVA because of the money. Second, my kids go to one of the strongest NOVA high schools. I have seen the scattergrams and the top right corner is a sea of green with an occasional red X. Schools that yield protect do not look like this. Period. They don't.

Absolutely no one has said that UVA has a lower admissions rate or a higher SAT range than HYP. That would be patently false.

The kid I know who got into Yale but not UVA was OOS and had no Yale-specific hooks. Super-strong, well-rounded student.

My sense is that UVA yield protects for OOS admissions, not in-state. They know that they have a good chance of yielding in-state students because of tuition. But OOS is much more challenging with costs not much lower than those of private schools.

I see the opposite from UVA at the 2 top DMV privates my kids attended and my 3rd kid (a senior) attends. UVA has a GPA line. If you're over it, you're in. If you're under it, you're not. OOS vs in-state does not really matter. The line is very high at both schools and is Ivy-level (even HYP level).

The magical line. And all you have to do is scribble some nonsense for an essay and get in.

But if you knew anything about UVA, you would then know there was no essay this year.

A [b]school of UVA's stature really should have essays.

They always do. The last two, however dealt in a round about way with two sensitive issues: 1) legacy, which was outlawed in the Commonwealth’s public institutions by the legislature. And 2) a prompt that would allow an applicant to talk about race. It was a thinly veiled attempt to get around racial preferences in light of the Supreme Court decision. The first had to go after the legislative decision … the second after it was discovered that UVA had discriminated in admissions and hiring in five situations, the most glaring being the medical school. There wasn’t time to replace the essay with one that would cover ED, EA and RD equitably. I imagine there will be essays again next year.

I think they should have essays again. There is such a limited set of things to make decisions on now. With test optional, you don't have standardized scores for many applicants. The vast majority of high schools no longer have class rank. Grade inflation is so high at many high schools that it makes it difficult to identify the real standouts.