Why are younger men so right wing?

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Anonymous wrote:D.C Urban Misandry never disappoints.

All that money spent on a study about how to talk to young males seems wasted. Y’all didn’t learn anything.

The boys are bad culture is a considerable roadblock for the Democrats.

Oh look, the boys are throwing a temper tantrum again. Yawn.

No tantrum, I’m marveling at the predictability of high SES liberal females here. There is no one more spiteful. It should be studied. Have a great day.

Cool. Keep blaming women for not getting what you want in life. What a man(child) you are.

Weird conclusion. I’m doing quite well. I’ve been happily married for decades. We have two wonderful and accomplished children who are also in long term, healthy relationships. I’m always amazed by the dysfunctional home lives liberal women here describe in gory detail. I truly feel sorry for them.

What are you prattling about?

A reality that seems foreign to many female posters here that “prattle” on about their miserable country, miserable lives, miserable relatives and miserable children. Then they come here and get even more miserable. It’s a vicious cycle. It’s sad.

Odd, you sound angry. Research shows no difference between conservatives and liberals when asked about mood and also shows liberals lead more diverse and stimulating lives. Furthermore, conservatives also struggle with stigma about admitting mental illness like anxiety disorders while liberals are more open about it.

-Happy liberal.

You’re a rare creature if you truly are a happy liberal. Not sure what you’re doing different, but hopefully it rubs off on your peers. It’s hard to debate the issues when your team’s messengers are so miserable to interact with.

Per research, there is no difference between liberals and conservatives when asked about mood. Stop using random anecdotes on a message board to determine your opinions. I could also cite anecdotes about hateful racist and misogynistic comments from conservatives here and elsewhere.

Cite?

Also we can all tell that liberal women are unhappy. They always talk about it.

1) These studies are all self-reported. People may not be completely honest in their answers. It’s entirely possible that conservatives aren’t happier in reality, but feel a strong need to tell everyone else that they are happier. Because, presumably, that means the world is how it should be, and the deserving folk (conservatives) have a justifiably better life than all those lazy, godless parasites.

2) That goes double for women, who have to accept a system in which they’re second class citizens, in return for the security of church and marriage. Even if the marriage is unhappy or domestic life starts to feel like a straitjacket, they’re conditioned not to complain. It’s instructive to look back at the 1950s and 60s, a period venerated by conservatives, when large numbers of housewives turned to Miltown, Atarax, and other tranquilizers to cope with stress and anxiety. The Stones wrote “Mother’s Little Helper” about this phenomenon.

2) Conservatives feel zero guilt about others’ misfortunes. If other people suffer or fail, it’s their own fault. If you think the world is just and the system is fair, you sleep well at night. If you look around at the world and notice injustice and corruption and how arbitrary life is (like many liberals do), that leads to a sense of unease.

Would you rather be happy, or aware? The answer to that question probably feeds into a lot of people’s political leanings.

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Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see one compelling argument that isn't about white men whining about no longer being handed everything when they want it (as often), or rooted in hatred/mistrust of women.

Okay, run with that and keep losing presidential elections for eternity.

Oh noes, you feel the world is against you so you want to vote for the grifter billionaires who don't give a shit about you? See how that helps you and your family, kids, etc.

I’m a Harris-voting, lifelong Democrat, you moron. I am just not sealed inside the deep blue bubble like you are. I want to win the presidential election again some day, and I see nobody on the horizon who even comes close to being a realistic candidate.

For context, I accurately called Trump’s wins months before the election each time, as well as Biden’s. I’ve correctly predicted each presidential election since I started paying attention (Obama). I tried to warn people here that Trump was going to win and got a lot of posts back about how wrong I was. 🤷‍♀️

Also don’t come back about stupid special elections or whatever. They are irrelevant to national voting patterns. The Democrats will win the midterms but at this rate will get trounced again in the presidential election unless a dark horse candidate emerges. And a lot of that has to do with the denialism on display in this thread.

The democratic establishment are cowards, broken, and bought by special interests - I'm not sealed inside the "deep blue bubble" either. But none of that means that boys/males are suffering due to any fault other than their own (or their parents). My parents were brown, Muslim immigrants - and succeeded. Because they worked incredibly hard for it. I have zero tolerance for the temper tantrum throwing white Christian males who think they're being forgotten about, because they're not handed things as frequently as before. Especially if they think Trump's swamp are going to help them. Those morons are a special kind of stupid.

Trump won votes sharply across men of all demographics. In fact, the votes he got from men who aren’t white were critical to his election. Are you unaware of the data from the last election? You seem pretty out of touch

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Anonymous wrote:People like the OP are so entertaining. So incurious about the world and judgmental, but they think that description only applies to Trump voters.

Read how she worded the OP - she can’t believe that her son has a nice job and nice life voted Trump-only dumb poor idiots with no teeth from Alabama vote conservative!

Meanwhile half of this lady’s neighborhood, coworkers, and friends probably voted for Trump.

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Call 911: Conservative comes to the rescue

Need surgery: Likely a conservative

Car repair: Conservative

Plumber: Conservative

Electrician: Conservative

Pilot: Conservative

Your teen daughter’s boyfriend: Conservative

That’s a nice anecdotal list. Here’s an anecdotal list based on my neighbors and friends:

Pilot: Liberal

Plumber: Liberal

Carpenters (x3): Liberal

Doctors (many): Liberal

Teachers: Liberal

Nurses (several): Liberal

Gas systems engineer: Liberal

EMT who comes when you call 911 (x2): Liberal

Firefighter: Liberal

Lawyers: Liberal

Your teen son’s girlfriend: Liberal

White guy here who can check several of those boxes: Worked at a garage, did landscaping, carpentry, electrical, plumbing, roofing work through college and side gigs after college, worked in a restaurant kitchen, was a volunteer firefighter for 10 years, became an engineer after graduating from college, well over 6' tall, brawny, bearded, outdoorsman, gun owner, and dated tons of women before I finally settled down and got married. And I'm a liberal.

Conservatives seem to live in some kind of weird fantasy bubble land and are probably unaware that many of the normal people around them that they interact with and depend on for various services are in fact liberals, but instead they mistakenly assume we normal liberals must be conservatives because we don't have pink hair and nose rings and whatever else they're told we liberals are supposed to have. Sadly many conservatives I know are small-minded like that. They certainly say a lot of really incorrect, misguided and outright dumb things about liberals in my presence when they aren't aware that I'm a liberal. Bear in mind that most of us liberals don't go around broadcasting that we are liberals, we don't share the right's strange cultish urges to fly TRUMP flags and so on.

What a coincidence. That sounds exactly like me but I’m a conservative lesbian.

Why would any lesbian ever want to be part of a political movement that hates, and I mean absolutely reviles and detests lesbians?

Was your "sounds like me but I'm a conservative lesbian" a poorly thought out attempt at humor or rebuttal?

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Anonymous wrote:People like the OP are so entertaining. So incurious about the world and judgmental, but they think that description only applies to Trump voters.

Read how she worded the OP - she can’t believe that her son has a nice job and nice life voted Trump-only dumb poor idiots with no teeth from Alabama vote conservative!

Meanwhile half of this lady’s neighborhood, coworkers, and friends probably voted for Trump.

+1

Call 911: Conservative comes to the rescue

Need surgery: Likely a conservative

Car repair: Conservative

Plumber: Conservative

Electrician: Conservative

Pilot: Conservative

Your teen daughter’s boyfriend: Conservative

That’s a nice anecdotal list. Here’s an anecdotal list based on my neighbors and friends:

Pilot: Liberal

Plumber: Liberal

Carpenters (x3): Liberal

Doctors (many): Liberal

Teachers: Liberal

Nurses (several): Liberal

Gas systems engineer: Liberal

EMT who comes when you call 911 (x2): Liberal

Firefighter: Liberal

Lawyers: Liberal

Your teen son’s girlfriend: Liberal

White guy here who can check several of those boxes: Worked at a garage, did landscaping, carpentry, electrical, plumbing, roofing work through college and side gigs after college, worked in a restaurant kitchen, was a volunteer firefighter for 10 years, became an engineer after graduating from college, well over 6' tall, brawny, bearded, outdoorsman, gun owner, and dated tons of women before I finally settled down and got married. And I'm a liberal.

Conservatives seem to live in some kind of weird fantasy bubble land and are probably unaware that many of the normal people around them that they interact with and depend on for various services are in fact liberals, but instead they mistakenly assume we normal liberals must be conservatives because we don't have pink hair and nose rings and whatever else they're told we liberals are supposed to have. Sadly many conservatives I know are small-minded like that. They certainly say a lot of really incorrect, misguided and outright dumb things about liberals in my presence when they aren't aware that I'm a liberal. Bear in mind that most of us liberals don't go around broadcasting that we are liberals, we don't share the right's strange cultish urges to fly TRUMP flags and so on.

What a coincidence. That sounds exactly like me but I’m a conservative lesbian.

Why would any lesbian ever want to be part of a political movement that hates, and I mean absolutely reviles and detests lesbians?

Was your "sounds like me but I'm a conservative lesbian" a poorly thought out attempt at humor or rebuttal?

Non-lesbian conservative here. We don't hate lesbians. We dont revile or detest them either.

I bet you tell your exes that no one will ever love them as much as you did.

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Anonymous wrote:D.C Urban Misandry never disappoints.

All that money spent on a study about how to talk to young males seems wasted. Y’all didn’t learn anything.

The boys are bad culture is a considerable roadblock for the Democrats.

Oh look, the boys are throwing a temper tantrum again. Yawn.

No tantrum, I’m marveling at the predictability of high SES liberal females here. There is no one more spiteful. It should be studied. Have a great day.

Cool. Keep blaming women for not getting what you want in life. What a man(child) you are.

Weird conclusion. I’m doing quite well. I’ve been happily married for decades. We have two wonderful and accomplished children who are also in long term, healthy relationships. I’m always amazed by the dysfunctional home lives liberal women here describe in gory detail. I truly feel sorry for them.

What are you prattling about?

A reality that seems foreign to many female posters here that “prattle” on about their miserable country, miserable lives, miserable relatives and miserable children. Then they come here and get even more miserable. It’s a vicious cycle. It’s sad.

Odd, you sound angry. Research shows no difference between conservatives and liberals when asked about mood and also shows liberals lead more diverse and stimulating lives. Furthermore, conservatives also struggle with stigma about admitting mental illness like anxiety disorders while liberals are more open about it.

-Happy liberal.

You’re a rare creature if you truly are a happy liberal. Not sure what you’re doing different, but hopefully it rubs off on your peers. It’s hard to debate the issues when your team’s messengers are so miserable to interact with.

Per research, there is no difference between liberals and conservatives when asked about mood. Stop using random anecdotes on a message board to determine your opinions. I could also cite anecdotes about hateful racist and misogynistic comments from conservatives here and elsewhere.

Cite?

Also we can all tell that liberal women are unhappy. They always talk about it.

1) These studies are all self-reported. People may not be completely honest in their answers. It’s entirely possible that conservatives aren’t happier in reality, but feel a strong need to tell everyone else that they are happier. Because, presumably, that means the world is how it should be, and the deserving folk (conservatives) have a justifiably better life than all those lazy, godless parasites.

2) That goes double for women, who have to accept a system in which they’re second class citizens, in return for the security of church and marriage. Even if the marriage is unhappy or domestic life starts to feel like a straitjacket, they’re conditioned not to complain. It’s instructive to look back at the 1950s and 60s, a period venerated by conservatives, when large numbers of housewives turned to Miltown, Atarax, and other tranquilizers to cope with stress and anxiety. The Stones wrote “Mother’s Little Helper” about this phenomenon.

2) Conservatives feel zero guilt about others’ misfortunes. If other people suffer or fail, it’s their own fault. If you think the world is just and the system is fair, you sleep well at night. If you look around at the world and notice injustice and corruption and how arbitrary life is (like many liberals do), that leads to a sense of unease.

Would you rather be happy, or aware? The answer to that question probably feeds into a lot of people’s political leanings.

There are plenty of women who are both happy and aware.

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Anonymous wrote:D.C Urban Misandry never disappoints.

All that money spent on a study about how to talk to young males seems wasted. Y’all didn’t learn anything.

The boys are bad culture is a considerable roadblock for the Democrats.

Oh look, the boys are throwing a temper tantrum again. Yawn.

No tantrum, I’m marveling at the predictability of high SES liberal females here. There is no one more spiteful. It should be studied. Have a great day.

Cool. Keep blaming women for not getting what you want in life. What a man(child) you are.

Weird conclusion. I’m doing quite well. I’ve been happily married for decades. We have two wonderful and accomplished children who are also in long term, healthy relationships. I’m always amazed by the dysfunctional home lives liberal women here describe in gory detail. I truly feel sorry for them.

What are you prattling about?

A reality that seems foreign to many female posters here that “prattle” on about their miserable country, miserable lives, miserable relatives and miserable children. Then they come here and get even more miserable. It’s a vicious cycle. It’s sad.

Odd, you sound angry. Research shows no difference between conservatives and liberals when asked about mood and also shows liberals lead more diverse and stimulating lives. Furthermore, conservatives also struggle with stigma about admitting mental illness like anxiety disorders while liberals are more open about it.

-Happy liberal.

The happiness gab has been a known thing for years.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/08/opinion/conservatives-liberals-depression-anxiety.html

Conservatives STATE higher life satisfaction but are less likely to display happiness

https://www.scienceintheclassroom.org/sites/default/files/research-papers/science-2015-wojcik-1243-6.pdf

Conservatives are less likely to admit to mental illness related issues like anxiety (and seek help for it) though they still experience mental illness.

https://sites.tufts.edu/cooperativeelectionstudy/2024/04/09/do-conservatives-really-have-better-mental-health-perhaps-not/

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/new-study-shows-bipartisan-struggles-with-depression-reveals-gaps-in-mental-health-care-access

Also, the "satisfaction" effect completely disappears when instead asked about mood.

https://www.scienceintheclassroom.org/sites/default/files/research-papers/science-2015-wojcik-1243-6.pdf

Also while conservatives report higher satisfaction, liberals lead more psychologically stimulating lives.

https://www.psypost.org/conservatives-are-happier-but-liberals-lead-more-psychologically-rich-lives-research-finds/

Wierd how thers so much anxiety about things outside of their control

Conservatives, believing that heirarchies are natural tend to change the things within their control rather than letting things happen.

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Anonymous wrote:It is you that is following that playbook. You think gaslighting and dismissal amounts to an argument.

Why are you so angry?

Is it because I’m a white male?

Because I’m gainfully employed and doing well?

Because I have a great marriage and a wonderful wife?

Because our kids are socially adept, successful and in long term fulfilling relationships?

Is it all of the above?

because she is unable to orgasm and blames it on her partner.

unable to touch herself, she thinks she is entitled to one by work of her partner.

angry and ? who knows .... but she has joined her tribe here on DCUM.

Will you two stop with the awful fiction. Go write your sick MAGA fantasy nonsense elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:D.C Urban Misandry never disappoints.

All that money spent on a study about how to talk to young males seems wasted. Y’all didn’t learn anything.

The boys are bad culture is a considerable roadblock for the Democrats.

Oh look, the boys are throwing a temper tantrum again. Yawn.

No tantrum, I’m marveling at the predictability of high SES liberal females here. There is no one more spiteful. It should be studied. Have a great day.

Cool. Keep blaming women for not getting what you want in life. What a man(child) you are.

Weird conclusion. I’m doing quite well. I’ve been happily married for decades. We have two wonderful and accomplished children who are also in long term, healthy relationships. I’m always amazed by the dysfunctional home lives liberal women here describe in gory detail. I truly feel sorry for them.

What are you prattling about?

A reality that seems foreign to many female posters here that “prattle” on about their miserable country, miserable lives, miserable relatives and miserable children. Then they come here and get even more miserable. It’s a vicious cycle. It’s sad.

Odd, you sound angry. Research shows no difference between conservatives and liberals when asked about mood and also shows liberals lead more diverse and stimulating lives. Furthermore, conservatives also struggle with stigma about admitting mental illness like anxiety disorders while liberals are more open about it.

-Happy liberal.

The happiness gab has been a known thing for years.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/08/opinion/conservatives-liberals-depression-anxiety.html

Conservatives STATE higher life satisfaction but are less likely to display happiness

https://www.scienceintheclassroom.org/sites/default/files/research-papers/science-2015-wojcik-1243-6.pdf

Conservatives are less likely to admit to mental illness related issues like anxiety (and seek help for it) though they still experience mental illness.

https://sites.tufts.edu/cooperativeelectionstudy/2024/04/09/do-conservatives-really-have-better-mental-health-perhaps-not/

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/new-study-shows-bipartisan-struggles-with-depression-reveals-gaps-in-mental-health-care-access

Also, the "satisfaction" effect completely disappears when instead asked about mood.

https://www.scienceintheclassroom.org/sites/default/files/research-papers/science-2015-wojcik-1243-6.pdf

Also while conservatives report higher satisfaction, liberals lead more psychologically stimulating lives.

https://www.psypost.org/conservatives-are-happier-but-liberals-lead-more-psychologically-rich-lives-research-finds/

Wierd how thers so much anxiety about things outside of their control

Conservatives, believing that heirarchies are natural tend to change the things within their control rather than letting things happen.

Conservatives are more fearful, as demonstrated by MRIs showing larger amygdalas. Also explains the findings showing they have to pretend to be happier and not have mental illness due to fears of stigma.

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Per research, there is no difference between liberals and conservatives when asked about mood. Stop using random anecdotes on a message board to determine your opinions. I could also cite anecdotes about hateful racist and misogynistic comments from conservatives here and elsewhere.

If they researched DCUM the results would be markedly different.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s fantastic that so many of you think so highly of Tim Walz. It gives me hope that the gop can retain congressional control in 2026 and then the White House in 2028.

JD Vance has zero charisma. He can’t even order donuts like a normal human being. By then, the smarter young men will have figured out they’ve been conned.

Vance is just creepy. And weird.

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It could be something quite simple.

Maybe OP’s son just favors low taxes, legal and controlled immigration, and less regulation?

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Per research, there is no difference between liberals and conservatives when asked about mood. Stop using random anecdotes on a message board to determine your opinions. I could also cite anecdotes about hateful racist and misogynistic comments from conservatives here and elsewhere.

If they researched DCUM the results would be markedly different.

You think DCUM is a representative sample of the population? Maybe learn basic info about research methods?

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Per research, there is no difference between liberals and conservatives when asked about mood. Stop using random anecdotes on a message board to determine your opinions. I could also cite anecdotes about hateful racist and misogynistic comments from conservatives here and elsewhere.

If they researched DCUM the results would be markedly different.

You think DCUM is a representative sample of the population? Maybe learn basic info about research methods?

Of course not but here we are. The alt-left posters here are angry and vindictive.

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Per research, there is no difference between liberals and conservatives when asked about mood. Stop using random anecdotes on a message board to determine your opinions. I could also cite anecdotes about hateful racist and misogynistic comments from conservatives here and elsewhere.

If they researched DCUM the results would be markedly different.

You think DCUM is a representative sample of the population? Maybe learn basic info about research methods?

Of course not but here we are. The alt-left posters here are angry and vindictive.

If I used DCUM, I would think republicans are racist and misogynist. But at least I know it is not a representative sample and have friends and family who believe differently than me.

Do you not have real world friends or family with different political views? Get out of your bubble.

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Per research, there is no difference between liberals and conservatives when asked about mood. Stop using random anecdotes on a message board to determine your opinions. I could also cite anecdotes about hateful racist and misogynistic comments from conservatives here and elsewhere.

If they researched DCUM the results would be markedly different.

You think DCUM is a representative sample of the population? Maybe learn basic info about research methods?

Of course not but here we are. The alt-left posters here are angry and vindictive.

If I used DCUM, I would think republicans are racist and misogynist. But at least I know it is not a representative sample and have friends and family who believe differently than me.

Do you not have real world friends or family with different political views? Get out of your bubble.

I literally don’t have a bubble.

You seem to be the only liberal poster here that doesn’t think Republicans are all MAGA pedo-loving, misogynistic, knuckle dragging wife beaters. Have you not read most of this thread, or any other thread here for that matter?