Harvard slashing PhD programs + layoffs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One third to 50% of phD students are international. Most of the phD cuts are in very small departments. Even with the cuts, American students will likely have the same chances as in prior years, due to all programs cutting internationals most. They will not go abroad because phD is not funded abroad. That is why so many come here! Our funding is much better than overseas phD programs.
Top internationals will continue to get in. Harvard and the rest of the top 20-30 phd programs in STEM will continue to have the same quality of students they have always had--the pool is deep. Lower ranked schools will suffer.
Additionally, the SEAS cuts are admin cuts, not phd-student cuts. SEAS phd remain a priority for top schools.

You're just wrong. These were deep cuts that are hurting American science and American students. Many PhD programs aren't able to accept students right now because their funding was slashed. And many foreign students come with their own funding from their home country, so these cuts are hurting American students the most.

This makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One third to 50% of phD students are international. Most of the phD cuts are in very small departments. Even with the cuts, American students will likely have the same chances as in prior years, due to all programs cutting internationals most. They will not go abroad because phD is not funded abroad. That is why so many come here! Our funding is much better than overseas phD programs.
Top internationals will continue to get in. Harvard and the rest of the top 20-30 phd programs in STEM will continue to have the same quality of students they have always had--the pool is deep. Lower ranked schools will suffer.
Additionally, the SEAS cuts are admin cuts, not phd-student cuts. SEAS phd remain a priority for top schools.

You're just wrong. These were deep cuts that are hurting American science and American students. Many PhD programs aren't able to accept students right now because their funding was slashed. And many foreign students come with their own funding from their home country, so these cuts are hurting American students the most.

This makes no sense.

If you're low on funding, you'll take an international with their own funding over a better home student that you can no longer afford.

[Anonymous]

The level of Stupidity from the little Trumpers on this thread is astounding....Inbreeding at it's finest.

[Anonymous]

Harvard has extremely high overhead and fixed costs same research can be conducted at state universities with lower overhead.$100k salary goes further in Lawrence Kansas than Cambridge. Also $57 billion endowment is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The level of Stupidity from the little Trumpers on this thread is astounding....Inbreeding at it's finest.

And you sound oh, so very brilliant...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Focus on training US citizens and giving rural and city kids a chance. The US imports way too much foreign talent.

I agree in theory, but the US K-12 STEM curriculum is sh*t in most places. It is really hard/too late to correct for a poor foundation once the students are at the college and post-grad level, when you are talking about cutting edge research. That’s how you end up with school like Harvard having to add remedial math courses like pre-calculus to get some of their admits up to speed.

It’s not either/or. We need to get our students better trained and we need to continue to attract the best from other countries. It’s what makes us powerful.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly uplift our own citizens. How many American students get grants from China and India to study in their universities in science stem field. Probably could fit in a VW SUV because they won’t allow US cars into their closed markets. Enough!

I know for a fact China offers scholarships to Americans and other foreign nationals to study in their top universities.

As a scientist, I have been approached by China. I reported to my security manager as we have been trained to do. Have you heard of the 1000 talents program? It is entirely about poaching scientists.

China is the true existential threat to us now. Ukraine is a distraction; trump is temporary and a distraction.

We are at war again: a Cold War with China. But academia continually fails to acknowledge the truth.

And the current republicans? Throwing out the talent that China is trying to steal? Breaking the system that China is trying to copy? I mean, honestly, this anti high skilled immigrant thing is a gift to Beijing.

[Anonymous]

Alternative view: get rid of underperforming employees (and programs) by deflecting and blaming it on Chump, like any "slick" corporation would do. Have to see what happens in the short and medium term.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Focus on training US citizens and giving rural and city kids a chance. The US imports way too much foreign talent.

I agree in theory, but the US K-12 STEM curriculum is sh*t in most places. It is really hard/too late to correct for a poor foundation once the students are at the college and post-grad level, when you are talking about cutting edge research. That’s how you end up with school like Harvard having to add remedial math courses like pre-calculus to get some of their admits up to speed.

Democrats are always saying we need to get brainpower from foreign countries because our own kids have crappy math & problem solving skills.

Yet they have time to train kids in all manner of leftist politics & gender bull$hit.

Connect the dots, folks. Our kids could do math if the teachers focused on math instead of progressive grooming.

+1000

Connect the dots?

The PP and his +1000 sock puppet would love to have teachers indoctrinating students with fairytale religious texts from thousands of years ago, from a time when humans thought the earth was flat … but progress is the real enemy here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly uplift our own citizens. How many American students get grants from China and India to study in their universities in science stem field. Probably could fit in a VW SUV because they won’t allow US cars into their closed markets. Enough!

I know for a fact China offers scholarships to Americans and other foreign nationals to study in their top universities.

As a scientist, I have been approached by China. I reported to my security manager as we have been trained to do. Have you heard of the 1000 talents program? It is entirely about poaching scientists.

China is the true existential threat to us now. Ukraine is a distraction; trump is temporary and a distraction.

We are at war again: a Cold War with China. But academia continually fails to acknowledge the truth.

And the current republicans? Throwing out the talent that China is trying to steal? Breaking the system that China is trying to copy? I mean, honestly, this anti high skilled immigrant thing is a gift to Beijing.

US won’t be at a talent war with China because it’s a no match. China has by far the largest talent pool in the world and the US has been dumbing down its own population for decades. Look at the students Harvard admitted. Many of them even need a remedial class. It’s a joke now.

[Anonymous]

US probably will just implode before it gets to China. It’s falling off a cliff as we speak.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Exactly uplift our own citizens. How many American students get grants from China and India to study in their universities in science stem field. Probably could fit in a VW SUV because they won’t allow US cars into their closed markets. Enough!

Nobody, except Americans, want American gas guzzling automobiles.

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Anonymous wrote:$57 billion endowment, enough.

^^^ doesn't know how endowments work

LOL just sit on the endowment and get federal money.

I am so freaking tired of this. Let’s say you were a millionaire (like Sam Walton). And I wanted to get some groceries from you because I wanted to feed my family. Should you just give me my groceries because I am so wealthy? Or do you think it’s reasonable for me to say, come to my store and buy what you want. This is how research works too. We (American people) decide research is important and a public good. We look for the best places to get it. The answer is universities (Harvard and Georgia Tech). We pay for it. We don’t get to say “use your own money to pay for this thing that I want”.

Great. Send more money to Ga Tech.

Georgia Tech and UGA lost millions of dollars in research funding, and also had to make cuts

https://www.gpb.org/news/2025/04/28/research-at-georgia-universities-has-already-taken-hit-what-could-be-lost

https://pro.stateaffairs.com/ga/education/georgia-university-grant-cuts-doge

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard has expensive fixed costs, bloated staffs etc. Pays much higher salaries for production. Perhaps they can tap into their grads for corporate support. They have $57 billion tax exempt status and pay very little if any property taxes. Move the research to Ames Iowa. Cleveland, East Lansing, West Lafayette for a fraction of the cost.

Scientists aren’t going to just turn over their research.

[Anonymous]

Why is MAGA so anti-technology??
Do they live off the land without any science? Like do they not own computers or cars or ever go to the doctor seeking advice that came from science research? Do they not use electricity or eyeglasses or live in homes made by machines? All this anti-research rhetoric is so fake and obviously they don’t really believe it.

Or do they not even know that the devices and medicines they use daily are the direct result of RESEARCH?