Harvard slashing PhD programs + layoffs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Train and educate Americans. Strive like JFK implored the US to do with NASA and a MAN on the Moon. Minimize the imports.

Training and educating Americans or anyone else costs money. And for stem advanced degrees they need to understand how to compete for grants, win grants and produce the requirements of the grant. But we voted to destroy a huge percentage of that funding. Sorry Americans, but no advanced science research education here for you anymore.

[Anonymous]

^Quit reading from DNC talking points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Train and educate Americans. Strive like JFK implored the US to do with NASA and a MAN on the Moon. Minimize the imports.

We put on a man on moon using a rocket designed by an "import."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^Quit reading from DNC talking points.

Not using any talking points. I work in science and know the system. Trump defunded US science. He's handing scientific superiority to the Chinese.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^Quit reading from DNC talking points.

I don't know anything about the DNC. I talk to my kids in college about their futures. If your college kids interested in pursuing advanced degrees are telling you that nothing has been disrupted, they are not paying attention or they are not telling you the truth.

[Anonymous]

Universities are being attacked on multiple fronts - research grants frozen or cancelled, other grants are not being reviewed, increased tax on endowments, huge reduction in research budgets at the federal level across the board, visa changes at the drop of a hat that make it very difficult to host international students or hire postdocs or faculty from abroad,...Now with so many top universities gutting PhD admissions, years down the line (it takes years to get a PhD), our companies and universities and med schools will be lacking a generation of locally grown talent. What then? All this also sends a message to our students to avoid the PhD track or head abroad to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Universities are being attacked on multiple fronts - research grants frozen or cancelled, other grants are not being reviewed, increased tax on endowments, huge reduction in research budgets at the federal level across the board, visa changes at the drop of a hat that make it very difficult to host international students or hire postdocs or faculty from abroad,...Now with so many top universities gutting PhD admissions, years down the line (it takes years to get a PhD), our companies and universities and med schools will be lacking a generation of locally grown talent. What then? All this also sends a message to our students to avoid the PhD track or head abroad to do so.

Who wants pesky educated researchers hanging around here with their data and their results and their experiments that can be replicated. We need alternative information that can be used in the con game, not real data.

[Anonymous]

These are all administrative positions which need to go.

[Anonymous]

Cut cut cur

[Anonymous]

Supply and denand. Relocate these researchers to Omana or Stillwater and save money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Supply and denand. Relocate these researchers to Omana or Stillwater and save money.

You don't get more money from a grant because you're in a more expensive location. This makes no difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Supply and denand. Relocate these researchers to Omana or Stillwater and save money.

You don't get more money from a grant because you're in a more expensive location. This makes no difference.

Not quite true. The universities in higher cost areas do charge a higher "overhead" rate on sponsored research, such as NSF or DARPA research. This is designed to cover their higher costs whether salary, benefits, maintenance, or whatever.

[Anonymous]

One third to 50% of phD students are international. Most of the phD cuts are in very small departments. Even with the cuts, American students will likely have the same chances as in prior years, due to all programs cutting internationals most. They will not go abroad because phD is not funded abroad. That is why so many come here! Our funding is much better than overseas phD programs.
Top internationals will continue to get in. Harvard and the rest of the top 20-30 phd programs in STEM will continue to have the same quality of students they have always had--the pool is deep. Lower ranked schools will suffer.
Additionally, the SEAS cuts are admin cuts, not phd-student cuts. SEAS phd remain a priority for top schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Focus on training US citizens and giving rural and city kids a chance. The US imports way too much foreign talent.

I agree in theory, but the US K-12 STEM curriculum is sh*t in most places. It is really hard/too late to correct for a poor foundation once the students are at the college and post-grad level, when you are talking about cutting edge research. That’s how you end up with school like Harvard having to add remedial math courses like pre-calculus to get some of their admits up to speed.

Democrats are always saying we need to get brainpower from foreign countries because our own kids have crappy math & problem solving skills.

Yet they have time to train kids in all manner of leftist politics & gender bull$hit.

Connect the dots, folks. Our kids could do math if the teachers focused on math instead of progressive grooming.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One third to 50% of phD students are international. Most of the phD cuts are in very small departments. Even with the cuts, American students will likely have the same chances as in prior years, due to all programs cutting internationals most. They will not go abroad because phD is not funded abroad. That is why so many come here! Our funding is much better than overseas phD programs.
Top internationals will continue to get in. Harvard and the rest of the top 20-30 phd programs in STEM will continue to have the same quality of students they have always had--the pool is deep. Lower ranked schools will suffer.
Additionally, the SEAS cuts are admin cuts, not phd-student cuts. SEAS phd remain a priority for top schools.

You're just wrong. These were deep cuts that are hurting American science and American students. Many PhD programs aren't able to accept students right now because their funding was slashed. And many foreign students come with their own funding from their home country, so these cuts are hurting American students the most.