Antisemitism vs anticatholicism

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Synagogues are vandalized far more often than Catholic churches. There were more than twice as many attacks on synagogues than Catholic Churches in 2023 even though the Catholic population is 10 times larger than the Jewish population.

https://faithbased-isao.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Analsyis-and-Review-of-Attacks-on-Houses-of-Worship-in-2023.pdf


So that means that anticatholicism should be minimized?


Why are you bothering with this fake equivalency? A person is not born Catholic. Catholic is not something a DNA test will reveal. Jewish and Catholic are not the same kind of thing at all. You can stop being Catholic simply by deciding to go to a different church. One cannot stop being Jewish, regardless of religious practice or belief.


For the life of me, I still don't understand this. I know there are some Jewish ethnicities (Sephardic, etc) but Jews exist in every race in many, many ethnicities. Judaism is a religion. Like people of all religions, you can leave/quit your Jewish religion. Lots and lots of Jewish people do not have any overwhelming ancient Jewish genetic ancestry.

Like the people who claim to be 1/32 Cherokee... ok cool... but that's really not a big deal. No one cares.
Anonymous
Being Jewish isn't necessarily about DNA. It's a religion AND a people AND a culture AND a shared history...

A Jewish person can stop practicing Judaism and still be Jewish in those other ways. It's an identity that pre-dates the silo-ing of religion and nationality and other factors, which makes it more difficult to understand today. It also makes antisemitism "work" on multiple levels, so people can hate Jews because of our religion or because of our ethnicity or because of our culture, and any of those reasons by themselves are antisemitism.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Being Jewish isn't necessarily about DNA. It's a religion AND a people AND a culture AND a shared history...

A Jewish person can stop practicing Judaism and still be Jewish in those other ways. It's an identity that pre-dates the silo-ing of religion and nationality and other factors, which makes it more difficult to understand today. It also makes antisemitism "work" on multiple levels, so people can hate Jews because of our religion or because of our ethnicity or because of our culture, and any of those reasons by themselves are antisemitism.


Is there any other group in history where this is a thing?
Anonymous
Where does the idea that people inherently hate Jews come from? This was a foreign concept to me until I heard it from my Jewish friends in my 20s.

Is it because Jews feel like since the start of humanity they’ve endured more suffering than any other people? Some other reason? Or is it an idea that makes political Judaism work?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Where does the idea that people inherently hate Jews come from? This was a foreign concept to me until I heard it from my Jewish friends in my 20s.

Is it because Jews feel like since the start of humanity they’ve endured more suffering than any other people? Some other reason? Or is it an idea that makes political Judaism work?


Lots of Jews don't feel like this. For others, it's a story they've been told again and again and again that they believe it must be true.

Sure, there is some anti-Semitism that exists. But I think that some people just like to chronically feel like victims. They develop their whole identity around being a victim. Clearly, lots of non-Jews do this plenty, too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Being Jewish isn't necessarily about DNA. It's a religion AND a people AND a culture AND a shared history...

A Jewish person can stop practicing Judaism and still be Jewish in those other ways. It's an identity that pre-dates the silo-ing of religion and nationality and other factors, which makes it more difficult to understand today. It also makes antisemitism "work" on multiple levels, so people can hate Jews because of our religion or because of our ethnicity or because of our culture, and any of those reasons by themselves are antisemitism.


Is there any other group in history where this is a thing?

I believe Druze and Yazidis might be similar, but I'm not super familiar with them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Synagogues are vandalized far more often than Catholic churches. There were more than twice as many attacks on synagogues than Catholic Churches in 2023 even though the Catholic population is 10 times larger than the Jewish population.

https://faithbased-isao.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Analsyis-and-Review-of-Attacks-on-Houses-of-Worship-in-2023.pdf


So that means that anticatholicism should be minimized?


Why are you bothering with this fake equivalency? A person is not born Catholic. Catholic is not something a DNA test will reveal. Jewish and Catholic are not the same kind of thing at all. You can stop being Catholic simply by deciding to go to a different church. One cannot stop being Jewish, regardless of religious practice or belief.


For the life of me, I still don't understand this. I know there are some Jewish ethnicities (Sephardic, etc) but Jews exist in every race in many, many ethnicities. Judaism is a religion. Like people of all religions, you can leave/quit your Jewish religion. Lots and lots of Jewish people do not have any overwhelming ancient Jewish genetic ancestry.

Like the people who claim to be 1/32 Cherokee... ok cool... but that's really not a big deal. No one cares.


Ever hear of the Holocaust fool? "Lots and lots of Jewish people do not have any overwhelming ancient Jewish genetic ancestry"

Yes Judaism is a religion. Just like being Catholic is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where does the idea that people inherently hate Jews come from? This was a foreign concept to me until I heard it from my Jewish friends in my 20s.

Is it because Jews feel like since the start of humanity they’ve endured more suffering than any other people? Some other reason? Or is it an idea that makes political Judaism work?


Lots of Jews don't feel like this. For others, it's a story they've been told again and again and again that they believe it must be true.

Sure, there is some anti-Semitism that exists. But I think that some people just like to chronically feel like victims. They develop their whole identity around being a victim. Clearly, lots of non-Jews do this plenty, too.


It is from the fact we are not allowed to buy homes in some neighborhoods, get jobs etc... All because of our religion.

If you think this is not coming back under Stephen Miller and the Heritabge Foundation you are not only stupid you are Anti American.
Anonymous
Anti Catholism easy
Amy Comey Barret, Brett Kavanaugh, John Roberts.....
Child Sexual abusers still protected by the church.
Anonymous
I was raised Catholic—Mom is devout Irish Catholic, Dad is a secular Ashkenazi Jew. Now lapsed for all the reasons you’d guess. I think anti-Catholicism as it once existed was rooted in ethnic hatred for the immigrant groups who grew the Church’s numbers in the US and disturbed the idea of the US as a Protestant nation. But at this point anti-Catholic sentiment is really about belief.

I began to have a wider sense of the roots of anti-semitism when I lived in NYC and encountered Hasidic/Orthodox Jews on a regular basis.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where does the idea that people inherently hate Jews come from? This was a foreign concept to me until I heard it from my Jewish friends in my 20s.

Is it because Jews feel like since the start of humanity they’ve endured more suffering than any other people? Some other reason? Or is it an idea that makes political Judaism work?


Lots of Jews don't feel like this. For others, it's a story they've been told again and again and again that they believe it must be true.

Sure, there is some anti-Semitism that exists. But I think that some people just like to chronically feel like victims. They develop their whole identity around being a victim. Clearly, lots of non-Jews do this plenty, too.


It is from the fact we are not allowed to buy homes in some neighborhoods, get jobs etc... All because of our religion.

If you think this is not coming back under Stephen Miller and the Heritabge Foundation you are not only stupid you are Anti American.


Are you referring to the JEW Stephen Miller?


Where are you not allowed to buy a home or get a job?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Synagogues are vandalized far more often than Catholic churches. There were more than twice as many attacks on synagogues than Catholic Churches in 2023 even though the Catholic population is 10 times larger than the Jewish population.

https://faithbased-isao.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Analsyis-and-Review-of-Attacks-on-Houses-of-Worship-in-2023.pdf


So that means that anticatholicism should be minimized?


Why are you bothering with this fake equivalency? A person is not born Catholic. Catholic is not something a DNA test will reveal. Jewish and Catholic are not the same kind of thing at all. You can stop being Catholic simply by deciding to go to a different church. One cannot stop being Jewish, regardless of religious practice or belief.


That's not true. Once you are baptized in the Catholic Church, you are Catholic forever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Synagogues are vandalized far more often than Catholic churches. There were more than twice as many attacks on synagogues than Catholic Churches in 2023 even though the Catholic population is 10 times larger than the Jewish population.

https://faithbased-isao.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Analsyis-and-Review-of-Attacks-on-Houses-of-Worship-in-2023.pdf


So that means that anticatholicism should be minimized?


Why are you bothering with this fake equivalency? A person is not born Catholic. Catholic is not something a DNA test will reveal. Jewish and Catholic are not the same kind of thing at all. You can stop being Catholic simply by deciding to go to a different church. One cannot stop being Jewish, regardless of religious practice or belief.


That's not true. Once you are baptized in the Catholic Church, you are Catholic forever.


Nope
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where does the idea that people inherently hate Jews come from? This was a foreign concept to me until I heard it from my Jewish friends in my 20s.

Is it because Jews feel like since the start of humanity they’ve endured more suffering than any other people? Some other reason? Or is it an idea that makes political Judaism work?


Lots of Jews don't feel like this. For others, it's a story they've been told again and again and again that they believe it must be true.

Sure, there is some anti-Semitism that exists. But I think that some people just like to chronically feel like victims. They develop their whole identity around being a victim. Clearly, lots of non-Jews do this plenty, too.


It is from the fact we are not allowed to buy homes in some neighborhoods, get jobs etc... All because of our religion.

If you think this is not coming back under Stephen Miller and the Heritabge Foundation you are not only stupid you are Anti American.


Stephen Miller is Jewish. Why would he not allow Jews to not buy in certain neighborhoods? You are the one who sounds stupid and anti-American.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Synagogues are vandalized far more often than Catholic churches. There were more than twice as many attacks on synagogues than Catholic Churches in 2023 even though the Catholic population is 10 times larger than the Jewish population.

https://faithbased-isao.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Analsyis-and-Review-of-Attacks-on-Houses-of-Worship-in-2023.pdf


So that means that anticatholicism should be minimized?


Why are you bothering with this fake equivalency? A person is not born Catholic. Catholic is not something a DNA test will reveal. Jewish and Catholic are not the same kind of thing at all. You can stop being Catholic simply by deciding to go to a different church. One cannot stop being Jewish, regardless of religious practice or belief.


That's not true. Once you are baptized in the Catholic Church, you are Catholic forever.


That sounds like something Catholics are taught, but former Catholics don’t believe any more.
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