Proudly harboring the undocumented

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll take "things that never happened" for $200 Alex.

You can say that all you want, but it doesn't make it any more true. Here is my last text exchange with the guy, translated from Spanish:

"Hi, you can expect me on Monday around noon.

Hi, ok perfect, I won't be here when you arrive because I'm taking the grandkids to a matinee but I'll be back before you finish I'm sure."

That's how we operate. I have no reason to make this up. Why in the world would you think it's so unbelievable? Because I actually pay him well?

Your made-up text messages don't prove the truth of your made-up story.

Care to explain why you think this is such an outrageous story? It’s happening all the time in the USA.

Yes, there are definitely people all over the USA texting their lawn guy that they’re “taking their grandkids to a matinee” and then coming into DCUM and bragging about “that’s just how they operate.”

It’s called respect. I’m fluent in the language. We talk. What’s the issue?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:So effectively an indentured servant?

She said she and her neighbors pay him very well.

Such a cop out by the MAGA folks to label the guy an indentured servant. There's nothing in our relationship that makes him one. By their definition, anyone who works for anyone else is an indentured servant.

I'll spell it right out: the premise of the posters who are so worked up by what I'm doing is that I have some kind of moral obligation to favor the "American" worker simply because they had the happy accident of being born here. That's bullshit. I'll hire a good and honest man regardless of where they're from and regardless of their legal status, and I'll pay them well for doing good work. I'm a conscientious objector to our flawed and racially biased immigration system. End of story.

If you don’t feel a duty to your fellow Americans and/or orderly, legal labor markets, why should anybody feel any kind of duty to the common good?

If your support and compliance with (or at least, not undermining) the legal systems put in place is subject to individualized veto, why wouldn’t all of us ignore the laws we object to? Perhaps someone in your neighborhood is a conscientious objector to property rights laws and they’ll just come to your house and take all your stuff?ñ. How would you feel about that?

That’s a silly analogy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

Either you’re stupid or a troll.

Why on earth would you reveal this information online? You think “they” can’t get your IP address?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tax fraud? Shouldn’t he be paying taxes on income and reporting it.

How do you know he's not?

It would take a lot of undocumented immigrants to equal the amount of income tax fraud the Trumps (not just Donald) have committed over the years.

Well he’s illegal. And he’s being harbored by his employer. So he’s definitely not paying taxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll take "things that never happened" for $200 Alex.

You can say that all you want, but it doesn't make it any more true. Here is my last text exchange with the guy, translated from Spanish:

"Hi, you can expect me on Monday around noon.

Hi, ok perfect, I won't be here when you arrive because I'm taking the grandkids to a matinee but I'll be back before you finish I'm sure."

That's how we operate. I have no reason to make this up. Why in the world would you think it's so unbelievable? Because I actually pay him well?

Your made-up text messages don't prove the truth of your made-up story.

Care to explain why you think this is such an outrageous story? It’s happening all the time in the USA.

Yes, there are definitely people all over the USA texting their lawn guy that they’re “taking their grandkids to a matinee” and then coming into DCUM and bragging about “that’s just how they operate.”

They used to brag about how many slaves they owned. It was a status symbol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So effectively an indentured servant?

She said she and her neighbors pay him very well.

Such a cop out by the MAGA folks to label the guy an indentured servant. There's nothing in our relationship that makes him one. By their definition, anyone who works for anyone else is an indentured servant.

I'll spell it right out: the premise of the posters who are so worked up by what I'm doing is that I have some kind of moral obligation to favor the "American" worker simply because they had the happy accident of being born here. That's bullshit. I'll hire a good and honest man regardless of where they're from and regardless of their legal status, and I'll pay them well for doing good work. I'm a conscientious objector to our flawed and racially biased immigration system. End of story.

If you don’t feel a duty to your fellow Americans and/or orderly, legal labor markets, why should anybody feel any kind of duty to the common good?

If your support and compliance with (or at least, not undermining) the legal systems put in place is subject to individualized veto, why wouldn’t all of us ignore the laws we object to? Perhaps someone in your neighborhood is a conscientious objector to property rights laws and they’ll just come to your house and take all your stuff?ñ. How would you feel about that?

I agree. It’s not fair that people like OP are wealthy enough to afford lawn care workers while I work my tail off at target to live in a studio apartment. I’m not a criminal so I deserve the opportunity to live a comfortable life in a nice house like the OPs. Opportunity is what makes this country great. And if the OP won’t give me a room in her house then she is an elitist fascist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

Either you’re stupid or a troll.

Why on earth would you reveal this information online? You think “they” can’t get your IP address?

I'm not worried.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tax fraud? Shouldn’t he be paying taxes on income and reporting it.

How do you know he's not?

It would take a lot of undocumented immigrants to equal the amount of income tax fraud the Trumps (not just Donald) have committed over the years.

Well he’s illegal. And he’s being harbored by his employer. So he’s definitely not paying taxes.

He's not illegal. No one is illegal. And he's paying taxes, just not income taxes. As I've said before, he probably wouldn't owe a lot of income tax anyway. And he's not burdening the state in any way -- he doesn't claim or take advantage of any social programs or anything. He likely costs us less than the lazy "domestic" workers around here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll take "things that never happened" for $200 Alex.

You can say that all you want, but it doesn't make it any more true. Here is my last text exchange with the guy, translated from Spanish:

"Hi, you can expect me on Monday around noon.

Hi, ok perfect, I won't be here when you arrive because I'm taking the grandkids to a matinee but I'll be back before you finish I'm sure."

That's how we operate. I have no reason to make this up. Why in the world would you think it's so unbelievable? Because I actually pay him well?

Your made-up text messages don't prove the truth of your made-up story.

Care to explain why you think this is such an outrageous story? It’s happening all the time in the USA.

Yes, there are definitely people all over the USA texting their lawn guy that they’re “taking their grandkids to a matinee” and then coming into DCUM and bragging about “that’s just how they operate.”

They used to brag about how many slaves they owned. It was a status symbol.

Such a tired and offensive analogy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So effectively an indentured servant?

She said she and her neighbors pay him very well.

Such a cop out by the MAGA folks to label the guy an indentured servant. There's nothing in our relationship that makes him one. By their definition, anyone who works for anyone else is an indentured servant.

I'll spell it right out: the premise of the posters who are so worked up by what I'm doing is that I have some kind of moral obligation to favor the "American" worker simply because they had the happy accident of being born here. That's bullshit. I'll hire a good and honest man regardless of where they're from and regardless of their legal status, and I'll pay them well for doing good work. I'm a conscientious objector to our flawed and racially biased immigration system. End of story.

If you don’t feel a duty to your fellow Americans and/or orderly, legal labor markets, why should anybody feel any kind of duty to the common good?

If your support and compliance with (or at least, not undermining) the legal systems put in place is subject to individualized veto, why wouldn’t all of us ignore the laws we object to? Perhaps someone in your neighborhood is a conscientious objector to property rights laws and they’ll just come to your house and take all your stuff?ñ. How would you feel about that?

I agree. It’s not fair that people like OP are wealthy enough to afford lawn care workers while I work my tail off at target to live in a studio apartment. I’m not a criminal so I deserve the opportunity to live a comfortable life in a nice house like the OPs. Opportunity is what makes this country great. And if the OP won’t give me a room in her house then she is an elitist fascist.

I'm not "giving" him anything. He's working hard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of fools in the US. Overpaying for mediocre yard work? Probably the same people who kept on their cleaners and pained them for not cleaning during the pandemic. Just to realize that their slot has been taken by those who paid for actual cleaning and be cast to the side once the restrictions were lifted.
The same way this gardening guy is laughing all the way to the bank, pardon me, to a western Union location.

It’s not mediocre yard work in the slightest. He takes great pride in it. He does things on my property (7 acres) which would have never occurred to me to do and the place always looks great.

We never “casted aside” any of our cleaners either.

My guy can laugh all the way to the usurious Western Union if he wants, but I look out my front door and smile
at the excellent work that he does
and my heart is warmed knowing that I’m helping him and maybe his family in his home country. The only bad guy in all of this is Western Union for stealing too much of a good man’s money.

I have acreage. 1500/season is exploitative I pay that for spring cleanup

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of fools in the US. Overpaying for mediocre yard work? Probably the same people who kept on their cleaners and pained them for not cleaning during the pandemic. Just to realize that their slot has been taken by those who paid for actual cleaning and be cast to the side once the restrictions were lifted.
The same way this gardening guy is laughing all the way to the bank, pardon me, to a western Union location.

It’s not mediocre yard work in the slightest. He takes great pride in it. He does things on my property (7 acres) which would have never occurred to me to do and the place always looks great.

We never “casted aside” any of our cleaners either.

My guy can laugh all the way to the usurious Western Union if he wants, but I look out my front door and smile
at the excellent work that he does
and my heart is warmed knowing that I’m helping him and maybe his family in his home country. The only bad guy in all of this is Western Union for stealing too much of a good man’s money.

I have acreage. 1500/season is exploitative I pay that for spring cleanup

Man, you people are just so ridiculous. I never once suggested that he is the only person I employ or pay to maintain my "acreage." He's far from it.
You're grasping at straws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.

And, you are breaking the law.

Trump doesn't care about laws. He has broken many and served zero time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll take "things that never happened" for $200 Alex.

You can say that all you want, but it doesn't make it any more true. Here is my last text exchange with the guy, translated from Spanish:

"Hi, you can expect me on Monday around noon.

Hi, ok perfect, I won't be here when you arrive because I'm taking the grandkids to a matinee but I'll be back before you finish I'm sure."

That's how we operate. I have no reason to make this up. Why in the world would you think it's so unbelievable? Because I actually pay him well?

Your made-up text messages don't prove the truth of your made-up story.

Care to explain why you think this is such an outrageous story? It’s happening all the time in the USA.

Yes, there are definitely people all over the USA texting their lawn guy that they’re “taking their grandkids to a matinee” and then coming into DCUM and bragging about “that’s just how they operate.”

They used to brag about how many slaves they owned. It was a status symbol.

Such a tired and offensive analogy.

Yet somehow so satisfying to keep pointing out. Do you have any other hobbies besides bragging about how many illegal servants you have?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll take "things that never happened" for $200 Alex.

You can say that all you want, but it doesn't make it any more true. Here is my last text exchange with the guy, translated from Spanish:

"Hi, you can expect me on Monday around noon.

Hi, ok perfect, I won't be here when you arrive because I'm taking the grandkids to a matinee but I'll be back before you finish I'm sure."

That's how we operate. I have no reason to make this up. Why in the world would you think it's so unbelievable? Because I actually pay him well?

Your made-up text messages don't prove the truth of your made-up story.

Care to explain why you think this is such an outrageous story? It’s happening all the time in the USA.

Yes, there are definitely people all over the USA texting their lawn guy that they’re “taking their grandkids to a matinee” and then coming into DCUM and bragging about “that’s just how they operate.”

They used to brag about how many slaves they owned. It was a status symbol.

Such a tired and offensive analogy.

Yet somehow so satisfying to keep pointing out. Do you have any other hobbies besides bragging about how many illegal servants you have?

Maybe. You sound jealous.