UPenn Bends to Trump Admin; Revokes Lia Thomas Medals

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

+1

And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

DP. Just because you have typed it out does not make it so.

Choosing to target transgender women was a choice you made, bigots.

It's choosing to stick up for girls and women. What's so difficult about that to understand?

Because it’s choosing to “stand up up girls and women” in an unhelpful way.

Where were the bigots when it comes to women’s training facilities? Or other significant inequalities in athletics that do affect THOUSANDS of girls and women every day?

We see you for what you are.

See, the crazy thing about voters is that you can’t stomp your feet and make them do exactly what you want simply because you want it. This is indeed a hard lesson for many on the progressive left, who never heard the word “no” growing up.

Many just ignorantly listen to RWNJ propaganda. Look at the whole price of eggs thing. Voters are dumb AF.

The GOP made a calculated move to attack transgender athletes because they studied the various issues and found that it was most triggering to a certain demographic.

Well, continue telling 95% of the country that they are dumb. I am sure that will work out for you as a strategy.

NP here and we’re not trying to convince the people who are using this issue to open a discussion on gender ideology, like a prior poster wrote. Those people are bigots and will not change their minds. We are trying to convince the people who lean left and claim to support trans people in all areas but this one that the right is propagandizing this issue and they should really think before they jump on the “let’s all shed a tear for the many, many women denied their podium moment” train. There are fair and inclusive solutions. If you actually support trans people and competitive fairness, let’s work to figure them out.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

+1

And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

DP. Just because you have typed it out does not make it so.

Choosing to target transgender women was a choice you made, bigots.

It's choosing to stick up for girls and women. What's so difficult about that to understand?

Because it’s choosing to “stand up up girls and women” in an unhelpful way.

Where were the bigots when it comes to women’s training facilities? Or other significant inequalities in athletics that do affect THOUSANDS of girls and women every day?

We see you for what you are.

See, the crazy thing about voters is that you can’t stomp your feet and make them do exactly what you want simply because you want it. This is indeed a hard lesson for many on the progressive left, who never heard the word “no” growing up.

Many just ignorantly listen to RWNJ propaganda. Look at the whole price of eggs thing. Voters are dumb AF.

The GOP made a calculated move to attack transgender athletes because they studied the various issues and found that it was most triggering to a certain demographic.

Well, continue telling 95% of the country that they are dumb. I am sure that will work out for you as a strategy.

You suck at math.

The % of the country who was swayed to vote for Trump over eggs or transgender athletes is much, much lower than 95%. Only 23% of the country voted for the turd.

You really need to get off DCUM and honestly talk to real people about this issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

+1 i’m glad about this change but completely agree with this

I'm sympathetic to the swimmers who were impacted by the lack of common sense regarding Thomas. Especially because the swimmers who spoke up about the issue were dismissed as bigots. Even the PP's editorializing that their complains were "moaning" is dismissive and gaslighting.

In the end, the people who opposed categorizing Thomas in the women's group and allowing her to compete directly against women despite a clear physical advantage that no cis woman has, were proven right. But now PP wants to call those clearly valid arguments petty "moaning." Nope. Those swimmers had and continue to have the right to view what happened here as unjust.

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The PP and the others in this thread attacking Riley Gaines and the other swimmers who stood up for themselves are engaging in typical misogynist minimization of women who speak up for themselves. It’s classic in its form: attack looks, describe the fight to push back against sexism and misogyny as “moaning” or “whining,” imply ulterior motives, etc.

If you removed the context, and lined the quotes up, the sexist language is identical to the language used by far right activists to attack women who are pro-choice. And that is because the underlying driver in both cases is roiling misogyny. One of the saddest aspects of the rise in gender ideology is that it has laid bare the fact that there is very little difference on both ends of the political spectrum when it comes to how much they hate women.

BS narrative.

The left does not hate women.

GTFO.

The left certainly displays contempt for women on this issue, and even in this thread. You can’t help yourselves. Ideology over all.

No, they don’t. That’s just another RWNJ talking point that the “leftists” love to push.

Except that it’s demonstrably true, including many of your posts.

Would love to know if you’re a man or a woman, PP, and the source of your self loathing.

She is a woman. A deeply self-loathing one, and it is sad. The language she uses is steeped in misogyny and profound hatred of women, but she’s so immersed in it that she cannot see it.

One of the tragedies of the discussion around trans rights is that it has exposed many on the far left as being united with the far right in how much they despise women. Progressive leftists like the PP despise everything about women, and that drips from their language and their words in a way they can’t help. It’s something they marinate in, and so they can’t even see it. But that’s why they are so shocked when they run into the horror of the more mainstream population at the misogyny of their words and actions, and they react with tantrums and anger like our PP here, to avoid facing that dissonance.

Fake narrative that isn’t based on reality. AKA you’re full of sht.

Reality:
I’m not “self loathing” and none of the language I’ve used is “steeped in misogyny”.

I don’t despise women at all.

I am angered by bigots targeting vulnerable populations for political gain though. That is true.

You poor thing. I’m sorry but at this point, you need help more than anything.

Right. I’m not the one pushing blatant lies here, but ok.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

+1

And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

DP. Just because you have typed it out does not make it so.

Choosing to target transgender women was a choice you made, bigots.

It's choosing to stick up for girls and women. What's so difficult about that to understand?

Because it’s choosing to “stand up up girls and women” in an unhelpful way.

Where were the bigots when it comes to women’s training facilities? Or other significant inequalities in athletics that do affect THOUSANDS of girls and women every day?

We see you for what you are.

See, the crazy thing about voters is that you can’t stomp your feet and make them do exactly what you want simply because you want it. This is indeed a hard lesson for many on the progressive left, who never heard the word “no” growing up.

Many just ignorantly listen to RWNJ propaganda. Look at the whole price of eggs thing. Voters are dumb AF.

The GOP made a calculated move to attack transgender athletes because they studied the various issues and found that it was most triggering to a certain demographic.

Well, continue telling 95% of the country that they are dumb. I am sure that will work out for you as a strategy.

NP here and we’re not trying to convince the people who are using this issue to open a discussion on gender ideology, like a prior poster wrote. Those people are bigots and will not change their minds. We are trying to convince the people who lean left and claim to support trans people in all areas but this one that the right is propagandizing this issue and they should really think before they jump on the “let’s all shed a tear for the many, many women denied their podium moment” train. There are fair and inclusive solutions. If you actually support trans people and competitive fairness, let’s work to figure them out.

Saying we should find a fair solution in 2025 is to ignore everything that happened in the prior years. I vote for the Democratic candidate as a rule but they were dead wrong on this issue. Even if it puts us on the side of people we don’t like, we should finally be able to admit. Except for the most extreme, everyone is on that side.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

+1

And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

DP. Just because you have typed it out does not make it so.

Choosing to target transgender women was a choice you made, bigots.

It's choosing to stick up for girls and women. What's so difficult about that to understand?

Because it’s choosing to “stand up up girls and women” in an unhelpful way.

Where were the bigots when it comes to women’s training facilities? Or other significant inequalities in athletics that do affect THOUSANDS of girls and women every day?

We see you for what you are.

See, the crazy thing about voters is that you can’t stomp your feet and make them do exactly what you want simply because you want it. This is indeed a hard lesson for many on the progressive left, who never heard the word “no” growing up.

Many just ignorantly listen to RWNJ propaganda. Look at the whole price of eggs thing. Voters are dumb AF.

The GOP made a calculated move to attack transgender athletes because they studied the various issues and found that it was most triggering to a certain demographic.

Well, continue telling 95% of the country that they are dumb. I am sure that will work out for you as a strategy.

NP here and we’re not trying to convince the people who are using this issue to open a discussion on gender ideology, like a prior poster wrote. Those people are bigots and will not change their minds. We are trying to convince the people who lean left and claim to support trans people in all areas but this one that the right is propagandizing this issue and they should really think before they jump on the “let’s all shed a tear for the many, many women denied their podium moment” train. There are fair and inclusive solutions. If you actually support trans people and competitive fairness, let’s work to figure them out.

Okay, let’s hear these “fair and inclusive solutions.” Be specific.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not a Trump fan, but this is the correct direction for women's sports.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

+1

And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

I’m not sure about misogyny. But it definitely takes a certain kind of intense entitlement to believe that you should be allowed to compete against biological women when your physiology is male.

So let the athletic organizations find a way to balance fairness and inclusion. Don’t freak TF out over a handful of athletes. Certainly don’t side with the GOP on their attacks against LGBTQ kids.

Except … in 2022-2023 any sports organization that dared even suggest a natal male should not compete against females would have been pilloried. Individuals would be fired and cancelled. Don’t pretend like there was some kind of healthy civil society discourse around these issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

+1

And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

DP. Just because you have typed it out does not make it so.

Choosing to target transgender women was a choice you made, bigots.

It's choosing to stick up for girls and women. What's so difficult about that to understand?

Because it’s choosing to “stand up up girls and women” in an unhelpful way.

Where were the bigots when it comes to women’s training facilities? Or other significant inequalities in athletics that do affect THOUSANDS of girls and women every day?

We see you for what you are.

See, the crazy thing about voters is that you can’t stomp your feet and make them do exactly what you want simply because you want it. This is indeed a hard lesson for many on the progressive left, who never heard the word “no” growing up.

Many just ignorantly listen to RWNJ propaganda. Look at the whole price of eggs thing. Voters are dumb AF.

The GOP made a calculated move to attack transgender athletes because they studied the various issues and found that it was most triggering to a certain demographic.

Well, continue telling 95% of the country that they are dumb. I am sure that will work out for you as a strategy.

NP here and we’re not trying to convince the people who are using this issue to open a discussion on gender ideology, like a prior poster wrote. Those people are bigots and will not change their minds. We are trying to convince the people who lean left and claim to support trans people in all areas but this one that the right is propagandizing this issue and they should really think before they jump on the “let’s all shed a tear for the many, many women denied their podium moment” train. There are fair and inclusive solutions. If you actually support trans people and competitive fairness, let’s work to figure them out.

Saying we should find a fair solution in 2025 is to ignore everything that happened in the prior years. I vote for the Democratic candidate as a rule but they were dead wrong on this issue. Even if it puts us on the side of people we don’t like, we should finally be able to admit. Except for the most extreme, everyone is on that side.

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The gaslighting from people like the PP is unreal.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

+1

And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

DP. Just because you have typed it out does not make it so.

Choosing to target transgender women was a choice you made, bigots.

It's choosing to stick up for girls and women. What's so difficult about that to understand?

Because it’s choosing to “stand up up girls and women” in an unhelpful way.

Where were the bigots when it comes to women’s training facilities? Or other significant inequalities in athletics that do affect THOUSANDS of girls and women every day?

We see you for what you are.

See, the crazy thing about voters is that you can’t stomp your feet and make them do exactly what you want simply because you want it. This is indeed a hard lesson for many on the progressive left, who never heard the word “no” growing up.

Many just ignorantly listen to RWNJ propaganda. Look at the whole price of eggs thing. Voters are dumb AF.

The GOP made a calculated move to attack transgender athletes because they studied the various issues and found that it was most triggering to a certain demographic.

Well, continue telling 95% of the country that they are dumb. I am sure that will work out for you as a strategy.

You suck at math.

The % of the country who was swayed to vote for Trump over eggs or transgender athletes is much, much lower than 95%. Only 23% of the country voted for the turd.

You really need to get off DCUM and honestly talk to real people about this issue.

I’m much more engaged in women’s athletics (HS & college) than most here. I’m good, thanks.

And you can’t reason with irrational idiots who believe RWNJ propaganda. They really thought Trump was going to do something about the price of eggs?

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Anonymous wrote:I am not a Trump fan, but this is the correct direction for women's sports.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

+1

And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

DP. Just because you have typed it out does not make it so.

Choosing to target transgender women was a choice you made, bigots.

It's choosing to stick up for girls and women. What's so difficult about that to understand?

Because it’s choosing to “stand up up girls and women” in an unhelpful way.

Where were the bigots when it comes to women’s training facilities? Or other significant inequalities in athletics that do affect THOUSANDS of girls and women every day?

We see you for what you are.

See, the crazy thing about voters is that you can’t stomp your feet and make them do exactly what you want simply because you want it. This is indeed a hard lesson for many on the progressive left, who never heard the word “no” growing up.

Many just ignorantly listen to RWNJ propaganda. Look at the whole price of eggs thing. Voters are dumb AF.

The GOP made a calculated move to attack transgender athletes because they studied the various issues and found that it was most triggering to a certain demographic.

Well, continue telling 95% of the country that they are dumb. I am sure that will work out for you as a strategy.

NP here and we’re not trying to convince the people who are using this issue to open a discussion on gender ideology, like a prior poster wrote. Those people are bigots and will not change their minds. We are trying to convince the people who lean left and claim to support trans people in all areas but this one that the right is propagandizing this issue and they should really think before they jump on the “let’s all shed a tear for the many, many women denied their podium moment” train. There are fair and inclusive solutions. If you actually support trans people and competitive fairness, let’s work to figure them out.

Saying we should find a fair solution in 2025 is to ignore everything that happened in the prior years. I vote for the Democratic candidate as a rule but they were dead wrong on this issue. Even if it puts us on the side of people we don’t like, we should finally be able to admit. Except for the most extreme, everyone is on that side.

“Everyone”? Is that what you tell yourself?

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Anonymous wrote:Thomas had no business being allowed to swim on the women's team. I'm all for her swimming on the men's team as a woman.

I did notice Trump is making the university write letters of apologies to the women on the swimming team.

The required letter of apology is a nice touch!

I hope they apologize for forcing the women to change in front of him. Someone should be charged for that.

Exactly. Shame on those Democrats.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

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And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

Hyperfocusing on transgender athletes during an election makes you a bigot.

Voting for a POS candidate like Trump over this “issue” makes you a bigot.

Posting about it 24x7 makes you a bigot.

Insisting that it’s “misogyny” makes you a bigot.

DP. Just because you have typed it out does not make it so.

Choosing to target transgender women was a choice you made, bigots.

It's choosing to stick up for girls and women. What's so difficult about that to understand?

Because it’s choosing to “stand up up girls and women” in an unhelpful way.

Where were the bigots when it comes to women’s training facilities? Or other significant inequalities in athletics that do affect THOUSANDS of girls and women every day?

We see you for what you are.

See, the crazy thing about voters is that you can’t stomp your feet and make them do exactly what you want simply because you want it. This is indeed a hard lesson for many on the progressive left, who never heard the word “no” growing up.

Many just ignorantly listen to RWNJ propaganda. Look at the whole price of eggs thing. Voters are dumb AF.

The GOP made a calculated move to attack transgender athletes because they studied the various issues and found that it was most triggering to a certain demographic.

Well, continue telling 95% of the country that they are dumb. I am sure that will work out for you as a strategy.

You suck at math.

The % of the country who was swayed to vote for Trump over eggs or transgender athletes is much, much lower than 95%. Only 23% of the country voted for the turd.

You really need to get off DCUM and honestly talk to real people about this issue.

I’m much more engaged in women’s athletics (HS & college) than most here. I’m good, thanks.

And you can’t reason with irrational idiots who believe RWNJ propaganda. They really thought Trump was going to do something about the price of eggs?

Given your response, it’s clear you don’t engage with the normal moderate population— nearly all of whom don’t support natal men competing with girls and women.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

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And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

I’m not sure about misogyny. But it definitely takes a certain kind of intense entitlement to believe that you should be allowed to compete against biological women when your physiology is male.

So let the athletic organizations find a way to balance fairness and inclusion. Don’t freak TF out over a handful of athletes. Certainly don’t side with the GOP on their attacks against LGBTQ kids.

Except … in 2022-2023 any sports organization that dared even suggest a natal male should not compete against females would have been pilloried. Individuals would be fired and cancelled. Don’t pretend like there was some kind of healthy civil society discourse around these issues.

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It wasn’t even possible to get editorials published about the unfairness in a lot of mainstream publications. The Penn swimmers endured what should have been recognized as sexual harassment, but were viciously attacked and threatened for even trying to raise the issue. To pretend now that you’re “just interested in a fair solution” while ignoring that history is absolutely wrong on many levels.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly, this removing Lia’s name won’t make whole the swimmers who lost races to her or missed their NCAA. Championship podium moment. Those are once in a lifetime events.

Give me a break. I thought you MAGAs detested the victim mentality. If my kid spent years moaning about “missing a podium moment,” I would know that I failed as a parent.

It’s unlikely PP is a MAGA. This is a 90/10 issue. It’s only in deep blue echo chambers like DCUM where people like you even exist. Outside of those small echo chambers, people would read your post and immediately dismiss you as crazy.

Most Americans correctly view what happened to the female Penn swimmers as a travesty. And Americans like their podium moments, and understand the loss of a once-in-a-lifetime moment. Your attempt to dismiss that loss because you are upset at discovering just how far outside the mainstream you are doesn’t change the fact you are far, far in the minority (and wrong) on this issue.

The angry cope from the blue cultists in this thread is wild to see.

Here’s what I believe - this has been blown up to be a huge issue and it is not. If you voted on this issue, you are a moron.

+1

And a bigot.

I believe what happened at Penn to the female swimmers was morally, ethically, and legally wrong. I believe it was wrong across the board, deeply sexist, and an example of the endemic misogyny in our country and culture. I believe people like you are on the wrong side of history.

If that makes me a bigot, that word has lost all meaning. And also, it means that at least 95% of the country and probably 99.9% of the world are “bigots.”

I’m not sure about misogyny. But it definitely takes a certain kind of intense entitlement to believe that you should be allowed to compete against biological women when your physiology is male.

So let the athletic organizations find a way to balance fairness and inclusion. Don’t freak TF out over a handful of athletes. Certainly don’t side with the GOP on their attacks against LGBTQ kids.

Except … in 2022-2023 any sports organization that dared even suggest a natal male should not compete against females would have been pilloried. Individuals would be fired and cancelled. Don’t pretend like there was some kind of healthy civil society discourse around these issues.

Fake news. Sports organizations ALREADY have guidelines on who could compete.

# years on hormones, etc.

There already were restrictions.