UPenn Bends to Trump Admin; Revokes Lia Thomas Medals

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sad for her. There's no where to fit in. It's sad and the answer is not to angrily condemn trans people. God help us all. They are going to be the next scapegoat group after immigrants and it's making me sick.

I agree that Rs are trying to scapegoat trans people. And when it comes to employment, education, access to healthcare, marriage, and any other fundamental rights that, I will go to bat for trans people to defend their rights and freedoms.

But not being allowed to swim on your college women's swim team is not a fundamental right. Lots of people don't get to swim on their college women's swim team, including plenty of women. AND Thomas was welcome to swim on the men's team and in fact did so prior to moving to the women's team. AND under the new NCAA rules, Thomas would be allowed to train with the women's team if that was her preference, she just can't compete against cis women because she has an unfair advantage that undermines the entire reason women's swim teams exist in the first place -- because if cis women compete against people who were born and developed as males, they will lose.

This idea that this is a tragic outcome that denies anyone's basic rights is just wrong. It is a just outcome that corrects a mistake.

Quit calling us "cis" women.

That is a made up word with no meaning other than being an offensive, misogynistic slur.

We are Women. Females.

It’s a Latin prefix that means “on this side of.” It’s just a polite way of differentiating between trans and non trans women when you’re having conversations about transgender people.

It’s not like you have to use it all the time. You can also just say trans women or Trans men and non trans women and non trans men. But since there are so many more non trans men and women that gets a bit wordy.

I don’t go around calling people cis women or cis men. But when you’ve having a conversation literally about trans people, it’s just easier to use that prefix.

It is not "polite" to use "cis" to refer to women, real women.

It is rude, degrading, misogynistic and sexist. It is a slur.

In fact, it is rude to call us "non trans women" We are women.

You men do not get to decide what to call us women.

You men do not get to decide that actual women have to be separated from our actual femaleness by trying to change our name to try to give you more power, control and legitimacy over us. Trying to force the made up slur "ciswoman" on society or putting us below men who identify as women by calling us "non trans women" instead of what we are, which is women, is as sexist as a 1960s man telling us to stay in the kitchen.

Call yourself whatever you want, but you do not have the right to demean actual women by renaming and redefining us based off your feelings.

There is no such thing as a "cis" woman and that term is an overtly and deliberately offensive slur. Women do not need to be identified as a subset of men by calling us "non trans women"

We sre women, period. Give us the respect and dignity we deserve.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sad for her. There's no where to fit in. It's sad and the answer is not to angrily condemn trans people. God help us all. They are going to be the next scapegoat group after immigrants and it's making me sick.

I agree that Rs are trying to scapegoat trans people. And when it comes to employment, education, access to healthcare, marriage, and any other fundamental rights that, I will go to bat for trans people to defend their rights and freedoms.

But not being allowed to swim on your college women's swim team is not a fundamental right. Lots of people don't get to swim on their college women's swim team, including plenty of women. AND Thomas was welcome to swim on the men's team and in fact did so prior to moving to the women's team. AND under the new NCAA rules, Thomas would be allowed to train with the women's team if that was her preference, she just can't compete against cis women because she has an unfair advantage that undermines the entire reason women's swim teams exist in the first place -- because if cis women compete against people who were born and developed as males, they will lose.

This idea that this is a tragic outcome that denies anyone's basic rights is just wrong. It is a just outcome that corrects a mistake.

Quit calling us "cis" women.

That is a made up word with no meaning other than being an offensive, misogynistic slur.

We are Women. Females.

It’s a Latin prefix that means “on this side of.” It’s just a polite way of differentiating between trans and non trans women when you’re having conversations about transgender people.

It’s not like you have to use it all the time. You can also just say trans women or Trans men and non trans women and non trans men. But since there are so many more non trans men and women that gets a bit wordy.

I don’t go around calling people cis women or cis men. But when you’ve having a conversation literally about trans people, it’s just easier to use that prefix.

No it is not easier to use a made-up word that is intended to turn biological women into a privileged category. I use “natal female” if I have to, or “female” or “biological female.”